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Emergency Landing Near MUC  
User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 6
Posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16561 times:

A Fokker of unknown type just did an "off-field" emergency landing 2km before Munich Airport, after the pilot is supposed to have reported engine problems. No information about injuries yet.

I'll keep you updated

SailorOrion

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User currently offlineSailorOrion From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 2058 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16396 times:

Aircraft type seems to be Fokker 70, 35 passengers on board, no casualties or injuries. Still no word about operator/airline.

SailorOrion


User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16376 times:

Currently the only inbound Fokker is a F70 from KLM scheduelled to land at 9:10.

User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16283 times:

Looks like it is KL 1791, a Fokker 70 from Amsterdam. Now it says it is delayed, even though it was supposed to land at 9:10.

User currently offlineSpl From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 156 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 16285 times:

If it was KLM Fokker 70, it had the registration: PH-JCT with 34 passengers!!!

[Edited 2004-01-05 09:22:49]

User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 16157 times:

12 aircraft that were due to land at MUC have now been delayed.

http://www.munich-airport.de/DE/Areas/Consumer/Ankuenfte/index.jsp


User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 16077 times:

The KLM F70 is now listed as "on approach"

User currently offlineMaxfly From Austria, joined Oct 2003, 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 16035 times:

not KLM , apparently it was an OS Fokker 70 (according to the local news here in Vienna)
Markus


User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 15957 times:

KLM flight just landed, so its not that flight.

User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 15936 times:

http://www.orf.at/ticker/134470.html?tmp=2180

German info from the ORF site.


User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4693 posts, RR: 42
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 15828 times:

Seems to be an OS F-70:

http://de.biz.yahoo.com/040105/71/3tpkp.html

Those lucky SOB's - no casualties, only one passenger under shock. Plane landed 2 km short of MUC's runway.



Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 15760 times:

its oe-lfo

View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Peter Unmuth - VAP


Peter - VAP-Group



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User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 15505 times:

ORF is reporting that the gears could not be extended, so the pilots did a gear up landing on a snow covered field close to the airport.

User currently offlineKlm-md11 From Greece, joined Mar 2002, 471 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 15435 times:

not a good beginning of the aviation-year 2004 at all...

i believe the fact that so few pax and crew were injured on this flight is partly because of the engines NOT being attached to the wings, but at rear of fuselage.

Imagine a plane hitting the ground with 130 kts ENGINES first... that gives a mess, even when in a controlled "crash"-landing.

A job well done by the pilots!

regards,

KLM-MD11



GELUK IS GELUL MET EEN K
User currently offlineDiezel From Netherlands, joined Oct 2002, 646 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 15400 times:

I wonder why the pilots choose to land on a field instead of the airport where emergency facilities are available.


Never be afraid of what you like. (Miles Davis)
User currently offlineDomi.ga From Germany, joined Aug 2001, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 15253 times:

The German press reports that the a/c had engine problems and was unable to reach the runway.

User currently offlineMUC-PIX From Germany, joined Aug 2002, 178 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 15229 times:

It was OS111 (F70)coming in from VIE, scheduled arr. time 07.50. Engine problems reported prior to crash landing on a field outside airport area.

Heavy snow on time of emergency landing.


User currently offlineMUC-PIX From Germany, joined Aug 2002, 178 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 15214 times:

German news TV talking about a "500m/1500ft sliding area, luckyly on a thick snow covered and even field", "great crew job"

User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10707 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 15044 times:

http://de.news.yahoo.com/040105/3/3tps8.html

With accident photo.


User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14990 times:

Apparentlw a belly landing: see a picture here:
http://www.rtl.de/news/artikel/news/news_817418_268934.php
Peter



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User currently offlineZak From Greenland, joined Sep 2003, 1993 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14929 times:

just saw some pictures on tv, amazing luck and also an AMAZING job by the crew. the fact that, as someone pointed out before, the fokker has tail engines helped the job for sure.
imagine if such a problem had happened in the LOWI area. great luck that the area around the erdinger moos airfield of MUC is so flat and the recent weather covered most of germany in thick snow.



10=2
User currently onlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4119 posts, RR: 29
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14885 times:

Well done by the crew!

RJ100
P.S.: Flight number 111 is definitely not a good one to use...



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User currently offlineMUC-PIX From Germany, joined Aug 2002, 178 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14630 times:

Amazing pictures on TV of OE-LFO, c/n 11559 "Wiener Neustadt" lying on a field with wings, engines and cabin nearly not substantially damaged.

CONGRATS TO THIS CREW, AUA!!!


User currently offlineKlm-md11 From Greece, joined Mar 2002, 471 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14624 times:

***only speculating here***

some report engine problems to be the cause of the accident.

1 engine out = under normal circumstances no problem to land an a/c
the a/c should have been light w/ only 35 pax and a short flight, so no problem there

2 engines out = very very unlikely-

unless out of fuel... or -more likely- latest news is that icing of the engines ***might***have been the cause...


[Edited 2004-01-05 12:03:42]


GELUK IS GELUL MET EEN K
User currently offlineMUC-PIX From Germany, joined Aug 2002, 178 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 14599 times:

Speculations, let´s wait for information. Heavy snow during time of accident.

25 Fritzi : "unless out of fuel..." Very unlikely on a 50 minute flight.
26 MUC-PIX : The accident site is between the small villages of Eitting and Reisen, County of Erding, about 3km west of the airport fence and 4 km to runway 26L tr
27 TR : From the AUA homepage: "The Austrian flight OS 111 from Vienna to Munich (plan flying times starting from Vienna 6.50) today had to make an emergency
28 Sabenaboy : Hi guys, Don't congratulate the crew before knowing some facts. You (and I) don't know what happened yet. Maybe the crew was the cause of the incident
29 OE-LDA : If they approach RWY 26L and they come short of the runway, how can it be that they end up 4 km WEST of the runway threshhold? Regards, OE-LDA
30 Post contains images Racko : Rumours are that they had Icing problems. That could explain that both engines failed.
31 Hscav01 : I think another aspect to review on this incident, is the response from the airline regarding its contingency planning; the fact that a pop-up informa
32 Lufthansa404 : Hello. Truely an interesting accident. Its very good to know no one was really hurt. As mentioned before, the chance that only one engine was lost is
33 Post contains links Teahan : Latest talk if of icing in both engines. Another picture: http://wwwi.reuters.com/images/2004-01-05T105317Z_01_DEO537468_RTRDEOP_2_PICTURE1.jpg Jeremi
34 Fritzi : I am guessing that at least one of the gears was extended now.
35 Rick767 : "I wonder why the pilots choose to land on a field instead of the airport where emergency facilities are available." They never would so they almost c
36 Post contains images PW100 : More photo's available: PW100
37 OE-LDA : I saw a torn-off landing gear on TV, so at least one gear was extended. Regards, OE-LDA
38 SAS-A321 : No matter if the crew caused the accident, they brought the plane down in almost one piece, in snow storm, on a snow covered field and most likely in
39 Captjetblast : CONGRATULATIONS TO THE PILOTS! They managed to finish the flight in on piece. The plane shows no visible damage (not to mention the landing gear). Had
40 Fritzi : It will be interesting to see how the aircraft is going to be moved to the airport. Hopefully there is an open passage ahead of the aircraft, allowing
41 Post contains images SailorOrion : NO gear-up landing SailorOrion
42 Sabenaboy : "No matter if the crew caused the accident, they brought the plane down in almost one piece, in snow storm, on a snow covered field and most likely in
43 Fritzi : Sabenaboy, The plane was most likely deiced before it left Vienna, as its been snowing all night and it is -4 degrees outsid. If the crew decided not
44 Airsicknessbag : Huh? Read this please, from the OS press release (translated by me): "OS 111 had to land today [...] shortly after 0800 local. [...] At 0845, pax wer
45 Post contains links and images CPH-R : This has just been added to the db - 0 views when I first noticed it View Large View MediumPhoto © Max Teuber
46 MD11Engineer : It looks as if the nose ldg was extended as well. On the closeup of the nose you can see the nlg doors open. If the mlg was torn from it´s trunnions
47 Patrick_L : Here are some details on the aircraft: English: Technical maintenance data of the airplane Fokker 70 - Oe-lfo airplane of the type Fokker 70, registra
48 Munich : Here you will find some more pics that I have shot: http://groups.msn.com/TechnikundFliegen/mucaua.msnw?albumlist=2
49 Starrion : What flight awards are these guys eligible for? That was a nice bit of flying to put that plane down in one piece. On par with the 747 that landed wit
50 Jacek : Daniel: I wouldn´t want to stay in a crash-landed a/c for 45 minutes for sure... I think I would stay... At least it wasn't snowing inside Jacek
51 Zak : @munich how did you get access to the crash site? do you have a press card or something? or did they allow people near the site?
52 Patrick_L : My guess is that they didnt really "close" the whole area, and there were probably many spectators around so they didnt care about him taking some pi
53 American 767 : They did a nice job in bringing the aircraft down safely. They SAVED all the lives. The aircraft doesn't seem to be damaged beyond economical repair,
54 SPL : For what I know of, spare parts for Fokker planes are still made. It's the company named Stork industries from the Netherlands. Also, in Woensdrecht i
55 Marcopolo747 : THIS ACCIDENT SEEMS SIMILAR TO ANOTHER ONE EXPERIENCED BY JJ IN 2001 WITH A F 100 ON ROUTE FROM GRU TO CGB. WHEN THE AIRPLANE WAS CLOSE TO ARACATUBA W
56 Munich : @zak There was no problem for anybody to come so close to the plane. You can walk without special permission to the place of the emergency landing.
57 Klm-md11 : MARCOPOLO747 TURN OFF YOUR CapsLock!!!!!!!
58 MUC-PIX : WEST of 26L of course was typed in error. EAST is correct. Just did some uploads from the scene, which is accessible quiet well. You can approach the
59 Nudelhirsch : If it's not too odd, talking about a funny statemnt on this incident: read on t-online.de..."it's still unknown, why the AC landed with gears up"... a
60 Kellmark : Nudelhirsch: Let me get this straight. In the Hapag Lloyd A310 crash at Vienna, the crew took off from Crete, the gear wouldn't retract, they decide t
61 MarcJet66 : Congratulations Pilots!!! I believe that even if there was a stupid mistake made by the pilots (which I don't believe myself) the great thing is no on
62 Nudelhirsch : All I said was, they ran out of fuel, but when just gliding, they still made it down in a good way! I sure know, that they made mistakes concerning fu
63 Beechcraft : Ok, time to put my two cents in into this. We were approaching MUC right like five minutes behind the OS Fokker, when the pilot made his mayday call o
64 Post contains links and images Simongkhon : Way to go!!!!! I can't resist this, on a happy ending event like this.... Star Alliance seems to be a safe bet when flying in Europe. remember some 12
65 MUC-PIX : Errrr, Beechcraft...there is no 23R at MUC..., there is a 26R and OE-LFO was approaching 26L
66 Post contains links OPNLguy : Still more pictures... http://www.hhass.de/Galerien/AUA/index.htm
67 Tokolosh : Glad everyone is OK! Whatever the cause, the flight crew did a tremendous job getting her down like that. I can't imagine what being a passenger on th
68 Dtw757 : If you have to go down in an airplane, there's no better way than this!
69 Post contains images Beechcraft : Yep. MUC-PIX, you´re so right. I´m sorry of course it was 26L. maybe there should be a RWY checking next to the spell check... Thanks anyway. Denis
70 Redngold : OK I agree with both sides: the people who say we shouldn't congratulate before we find out what caused the incident, and the people who say they did
71 Nudelhirsch : Ok, call me totally dumb...will this one be repaired or is it to be grounded 4ever? Probably hit the frame really bad, but can anything be done? Only
72 Klaus : ARD news mentioned that "both engines had been down to 30% performance" prior to the incident. I´d regard this as very "soft" information... but if t
73 OPNLguy : The 30% power figure that ARD news mentioned came from one of the airline's management pilots, the VP, I think. There's and extensive thread in progre
74 Post contains links Klaus : Ah, thanks. Here´s the original link to an austrian news page with a few more details: http://www.orf.at/040105-69403/69404txt_story.html
75 Babybus : Can anyone explain why the emergency exits weren't deployed. Surely you'd want everyone to get out as quickly as possible.
76 Dtw757 : Can anyone explain why the emergency exits weren't deployed. Surely you'd want everyone to get out as quickly as possible. That is an excellent point.
77 Okie : I think I have read a few SDR's and incident reports where planes have flown into "unexpected" icing conditions and then turned on the anti icing. Cau
78 Prebennorholm : Dear Nudelhirsch, I can't believe that this plane will be repaired. With the landing gear torn off the wing main spar will be severely damaged. Flaps
79 Nudelhirsch : thx, preben... I was just asking dumb stuff... actually I never thought to "see" this one again...just to see anything thoug... You gave very detailed
80 FlyTPA : "Die Passagiere wurden gleich nach der Notlandung von den Flughafeneinsatzkräften evakuiert. Sie konnten die Fokker problemlos durch die Türen verla
81 Airsicknessbag : I heard on the news yesterday evening that the nose gear was lowered to prevent the nose from slamming into the ground, while the main gears were not
82 MUC-PIX : Hi guys, some ask, why spectators can approach the aircraft so near as to be seen on my pics for example. The facts are: The aircraft itself and the w
83 Domi.ga : Is it possible to lower only the nosegear? How can that be done (pulling circuit breakers or something like that?)
84 Patrick_L : He lowered the gear shortly (seconds) before touchdown, to keep the nose higher as long as possible in order to prevent the airplane from digging its
85 Post contains images Patrick_L : @FlyTPA - I am from Austria, and on the late evening news two People who were on the particular plane were interviewed. They stated that it took abou
86 Ka : From An ATC point of view I can´t understand that they should have been transferred from arrival freq to director and on to tower. It exists an Euroc
87 F.pier : Do you think this airliner can be repaired?
88 MD11Engineer : It is not unusual to have fire crews arrive late at a site of accident outside the airport, esp. if there is no cloud of smoke to guide them. The pilo
89 MUC-PIX : It took about 25 min for airport rescue to arrive due to the impact area not being easy to find. Prior to the crew reporting a landing outside the air
90 Post contains links Airsicknessbag : Aaah, gotta love Bild, our national tabloid: Just next to "Fired! Because my BUTTY is too hot", there´s a passenger´s account, under the blood-red h
91 Rickster : This 80 year old couple was here on tv several times in different shows, but their story was completely different to that what "bild" offered, they fl
92 CanadianPilot : I happen to know a pilot from an aircraft that was put into a hold because of this accident. There was also another aircraft that declared an emergenc
93 Okie : Thanks in advance CanadianPilot See if they think the ice came from the engine inlet, or the wing? Also if heat was already on or ice ingestion happen
94 MUC-PIX : If there is a murder anywhere in Germany, "Bild" is interviewing the victim the next morning... no more words.
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