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Why Would WN Agree To Airline?  
User currently offlineNycfuturepilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 791 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4572 times:

Though i enjoyed the show, why would WN volunteer to be on it? I always wanted to fly WN but now i have little desire to go on it. Anybody have any thoughts?


Father, Son, HOYA spirit
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User currently offlineTxAgKuwait From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1803 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4560 times:

I believe it was Eddie Rickenbacker who used to say that a plane crash was like a million dollars worth of free advertising.

This show, for Southwest, is advertising money cannot buy.





User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4558 times:

see my previous post in the other topic on this. This is a show you will love or hate, plain and simple!

User currently offlineFunFlyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 866 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4550 times:

Im so MAD  Pissed
I missed the show.
Damn it all to  Acting devilish



Who cares about status?
User currently offlineElwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4542 times:

TxAgKuwait:

You're absolutely right. WN couldn't buy this kind of advertising, and probably has some say over what gets aired (for example, screw-ups are probably shown in the best-possible light, if at all).

Anyway, WN gets name recognition and a positive face on TV... As a marketing guy, I'd love to have my company featured like that!



Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it in summer school.
User currently offlineNycfuturepilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 791 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4513 times:

How many of you would enjoy the little "show" that the F/As put together on the flight to LAS? I'd enjoy it for 5 min then would go crazy.


Father, Son, HOYA spirit
User currently offlineMD11LuxuryLinr From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1385 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

How could you NOT want to FLY WN after seeing those first 2 shows? They seem great to me. A lot of good exposure overall. Just my opinion.

 Big grin



Caution wake turbulence, you are following a heavy jet.
User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2101 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4482 times:

Here in the UK easyJet has starred in the show of the same name for a few years now. The original series followed Britannia, but then switched to easyJet - guess more drama in missed flights, overbookings, etc than from a charter carrier!

At the end of the day it is free publicity - the positive more than outweighs the negative, otherwise easyJet wouldn't still allow filming!



Let's Go British Caledonian!
User currently offline7574EVER From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 478 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4458 times:

"How many of you would enjoy the little "show" that the F/As put together on the flight to LAS?"

I thought it was great. It helps save SW the cost of IFE. I mean its a hell of a lot cheaper to dance, play games, and sing happy birthday to passengers then put tv screens in all the seats.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



Right rudder....Right rudder...Come on, more right rudder....Right rudder......Aw forget it, I quit!!
User currently offlineNWAFA From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1893 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4436 times:

As a Professional Flight Attendant, the trailer park trash "show" that Southwest does is so degrading...I once had a passenger say to me that when they see WN FA's in the airport they think they are "camp counselors"


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User currently offlineTLIMA From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4434 times:

FunFlyer,

A&E is showing it again at 1.00 AM (Central Time)

Cheers,

TLIMA



- Meden Agan -
User currently offlineGr8slvrflt From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1608 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4424 times:

It was definitely risky but I think Southwest came out looking great. I imagine all the drunks and jerks had to sign some sort of waiver.

User currently offlineMoodyBlues From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 142 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4413 times:

The show from MDW-LAS was pretty hilarious IMHO. I have had some funny flight attendants, but that group was great. I think they went a bit over the top 'cause of the cameras on board, but still showed Southwest attitude & spirit.

Bear in mind these couple of things. The show depicts problems that happen and how far WN employees go out of there way to help there customers. Take the guy in LAX who was denied boarding because he "smelled bad." That lady went way over the top to help him out and get him flying.. and that is the Southwest Spirit. Period.

If you want to know how I feel about WN and my personal experiences, do a search under my name... I'm new here so there won't be too many to go through.


Nycfuturepilot, why did this make you not want to fly WN. Bear in mind, that what you saw was a bunch of problems packed into 40mins of air time. What you didn't see was the 114 flights that left LAX that day, or the 134 that left MDW (or would have if it wasn't for that bad ass rain storm).

And those flights on a normal day would have been mostly on time, with few boarding mishaps, and everyone getting their baggage, and getting where they wanted to go.

I watch WN whenever I fly them, and am still amazed at what they do.


Southwest Airlines "A Symbol of Freedom"






Southwest Airlines "A Symbol of Freedom"
User currently offlineUpgradeplease From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4397 times:

Show was great! WN Not so great. Thank god for Delta!


Is ignorance something you have to practice or were you blessed that way?
User currently offline7574EVER From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 478 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4354 times:

"I once had a passenger say to me that when they see WN FA's in the airport they think they are "camp counselors."" - NWAFA

You know, I never thought about it before, but they do kinda look like camp counselors. All they need is a whistle around their neck. In any case I LUV SWA and would fly on them or for them any day.



Right rudder....Right rudder...Come on, more right rudder....Right rudder......Aw forget it, I quit!!
User currently offlineMoodyBlues From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 142 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4352 times:

I have a lot of respect for Delta, they a great mainline carrier, and I wish them all the best in the next few years.

But I will never fly them domestic. I have, and it was OK, but WN has a lot more love and caring for me, and they have never been late on any flight I have ever taken, and I always feel safe.

Delta has got me stuck in ATL, and I felt like a number, a little number in a big airport. That being said though, the flight attendants were very nice on my last flight. but there were about 75 of us on a shiny new 767.

That being said, lets try to not make this thread about carrier vs carrier... We can start a new one for that... But face it, they all have their pros and cons.

Southwest Airlines "A Symbol of Freedom"



Southwest Airlines "A Symbol of Freedom"
User currently offline737doctor From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1332 posts, RR: 38
Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4329 times:

I went to a "premiere" of the first two shows today at DAL HDQ. We had the red carpets rolled out and popcorn and everything.

To answer the original question, we didn't volunteer. The producers came to us with the idea. At first, our people didn't think it such a great idea, but finally agreed to do it, in large part to Colleen Barrett.

Also, as mentioned before, it's great publicity and it's FREE.



Patrick Bateman is my hero.
User currently offlineTcfc424 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 517 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4301 times:

I too wonder how much input WN has into what is aired...although I did notice there were multiple delays shown, and only some were due to wx...I thought the MDW-LAS FA's were pretty funny, and I am sure they weren't 'acting up' as some here call it, the entire flight...and the guy with his eye shades in place seemed to be resting comfortably...

I think it's an interesting show...won't say great just yet, but definitely worth watching again.


User currently offlineMoodyBlues From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 142 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4295 times:

Hi there 737doctor long time no see  Smile


Good for Colleen... She is such a pistol. I wish I could have lunch with her. I gained so much respect for her when I started reading "Nuts".

You guys looked real good there. Congrats to WN and their 35,000+ employees. I hope this makes you grow even more than you already are.


47 new -700s next year... How Greedy  Big grin


Southwest Airlines "A Symbol of Freedom"



Southwest Airlines "A Symbol of Freedom"
User currently offlineChiawei From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 945 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4279 times:

No matter how good the show is. I will never fly WN again.

Going out of their way to help? Last time they screwed me and my colleague over by stranding us for several day in Austin.


User currently offlineMoodyBlues From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 142 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4250 times:

Several days??????

What the hell happened man?

I'd like to hear if you'd care to tell.


Southwest Airlines "A Symbol of Freedom"



Southwest Airlines "A Symbol of Freedom"
User currently offlineUAL777CONTRAIL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4219 times:

What a trashy airline, they are greyhound in the sky.

You couldn't give me a ticket on them, they are all about making a few bucks to expose their nasty world. Those who say this is ALL airlines is crap, this is WN at it's finest.

I wouldn't say this is good advertising.


UAL 777 CONTRAIL


User currently offlineNycfuturepilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 791 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4207 times:

I think that the service on WN looks great.


Father, Son, HOYA spirit
User currently offlineMoodyBlues From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 142 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4188 times:

UAL777CONTRAIL



You pompus Jerk.

As a "fellow" British citizen your unexplained opinions disgust me.

Have you ever flown them?

if not sit down and shut up.

Southwest Airlines "A Symbol of Freedom"



Southwest Airlines "A Symbol of Freedom"
User currently offlineSprxflySWA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 597 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4144 times:

Well, at least "their nasty world" is in North America and not Europe. Somewhat on your line of thinking, no one could give me a trip to Europe, especially the UK. Holland and Ireland, perhaps.
Also, it should be ALL airlines are crap, not is, as airlines is plural!
HAGD.


25 MoodyBlues : SprxflySWA Welcome to my respected users list... I'm glad a WN employee came to my aid. The UK is a beautiful country however, and I am proud to call
26 PVD757 : NWAFA- if you had your choice, would get laid off or look like you're at camp again? I guess I already know the answer to my question. Never mind.
27 Post contains images SprxflySWA : Is it true you can only fly Virgin once? As was mentioned at work today, I bet they do not highlight the ramp workers too much. We thought most of di
28 Srd737ng : Moodyblues- If you look at the people that knock SWA on this subject and the other thread that is going on about SWA right now, you will see that they
29 M404 : Since the pax had to sign waivers (after the filming I assume) I'm sure that with the big red light glaring at them they behaved a little better than
30 Bicoastal : I watched the two initial episodes last night on A & E. It confirms my impression that Southwest is the airline of choice for white trash. Well, actua
31 DL Widget Head : I enjoyed the show but I thought the WN manager at MDW was extremely inflexible when it came to charging that family for a seat for their toddler. Eve
32 TNboy : The problem with this type of show is that it is never going to give a fair or representative view. It is all about sensationalism and "entertainment"
33 VectorVictor : Moody Blues, Ual777contrail is no more a British subject than I am the flight engineer from the movie Airplane!. He's a product of a bankrupt airline
34 SegmentKing : Southwest is no longer "The company plane", something they pushed before they entered long-haul. Business travelers normally use WN for their popular
35 Warszawa : Watched it last night myself. While i was surprised at the numerous " Delays and Cancellations " everywhere, but other than that, i thought it looked
36 Post contains images Flyguyclt : Warszawa: I agree with you. The entire flight is a bit much. But people seem to love them. While they can be a little expensive around $300 US. The BO
37 Upgradeplease : Greyhound of the Sky...What great and accurate analogy! I once defended that flying was not getting too casual...I was wrong. I can over look the Vaud
38 DL Widget Head : Upgradeplease, I don't recall seeing any "rude or prejudicial" staff on that show. What incident if any are you referring to?
39 Goingboeing : How many of you would enjoy the little "show" that the F/As put together on the flight to LAS? I'd enjoy it for 5 min then would go crazy. You saw 2 m
40 Upgradeplease : DLwidget, I believe that when the GA would not allow for the family with the toddler to board was rude. She could have erred on the side of the custom
41 Post contains images Worldperks : Flyguyclt, People tell me they can actually hear the 'canceling tone' in those Bose headphones. I've been using Shure E2c earphones ($99) since July a
42 Goingboeing : Apparently the customer thought so as well since the woman said this was the first and last time they would fly WN. A couple of things - the customers
43 Lgbguy : This show is a JOKE to the rank and file...Almost never at my station do our sups go the extra mile 90% of the time you call for a sups they don't sho
44 Contrails : I don't know what negative impact it could have on WN. The show featured a bunch of people acting their worse, while the WN employees exhibited a grea
45 Homer71 : What's wrong with being the "Greyhound of the Sky"? Sincerely, PEOPLExpress
46 Goingboeing : What struck me as odd was the agent who met the plane with the Chinese couple on it who were trying to connect to a China Airlines flight. She stayed
47 Post contains images Swafa30 : ...I guess thoses F/A's on the LAS flight Luv that they STILL DON'T have a new contract I guess thats why one male F/A at the age of 30something still
48 Post contains images Dasheighty : WN? Whose WN I'm trying to figure out what airline is this?
49 Goingboeing : WN=Southwest Airlines
50 Bicoastal : I typed in a more descriptive topic line than the original thread. Can only the originator change it on the main page?
51 Potomac : whether the show portrays WN positively or negatively, lets not forget what really goes into "reality" television. we know they dont just roll cameras
52 DL Widget Head : Good point Potomac. Something that struck me as unlikely was when the LAX WN supervisor accompanied the Intl passengers to the Bradley terminal even t
53 Birdy92 : As I watched Airline last nite I was generally impressed with how WN was portrayed. As the show started I said to my wife "I cannot believe the WN all
54 OttoPylit : I was excited to see this show, but after it aired, I could not believe what I was watching. This show made a mockery of the airline industry in gener
55 EA CO AS : How many of you would enjoy the little "show" that the F/As put together on the flight to LAS? I'd enjoy it for 5 min then would go crazy. Amen! Once
56 CO737800 : I loved the show and I think it makes Southwest look good. You cant buy that kind of advertising.
57 Goingboeing : EA CO AS - you saw two minutes of a 4 hour flight. I've been on LUV long hauls and they have had one contest about 2 hours into the flight to ease the
58 Flygirlhels : I did stay up and watch it last evening.... I think the most telling scene was of a man in a tie on the Midway to Vegas flight with eye shades on and
59 Goingboeing : It certainly doesn't paint the people traveling on Southwest in a very good light, does it? If one didn't know better, they could be led to believe th
60 SWAFA30 : Amen! Once again, it says "Southwest" on the tail, not "Star Search"! This is NOT a talent show. Leave your singing and acting for the night clubs, m'
61 Post contains images PiedmontGirl : SWAFA30: I've ridden on Southwest and I like Southwest. Now, that having been said, if anyone thinks that the full service carrriers are flying about
62 Flygirlhels : "Yep. Those folks gave you a good idea of the 72 million people who fly Southwest." Then the show should depict a more accurate representation of Sout
63 Jonathan L : I thought it showed Southwest in a pretty good light-- especially the woman who helped the stinky guy with new clothes. It certainly showed some custo
64 Post contains images Iflyatldl : It's yet ANOTHER reality show- the only differance is somebody gets voted off the plane for one reason or another. Last night-primarily intoxication.
65 Goingboeing : It appears you are such a rabid Southwest supporter you don't bother to read the posts to which you reply. Ineed I do read the posts that I respond to
66 RiverVisualNYC : I read this whole thread and am surprised no one mentioned anything about the female passenger (with her child) who complained about another passenger
67 Iflyatldl : RiverVisualNYC: I have seen on many occasions, where people did not have ID for various reasons- primarily loss or theft, but they now have a security
68 Goingboeing : Hmmm...when did Southwest buy LAX airport...usually the ID's are checked when clearing security. If you've got a problem, I'd suggest contacting Los A
69 Jeffinbwi : Anyone can travel without ID. When you check them in you have to mark the "NO ID" option and they will get those marks on there boarding pass that ind
70 RiverVisualNYC : No wonder they're giving extra scrutiny to incoming international flights, once a terrorist gets into America he can apparently fly around on WN witho
71 Goingboeing : Also...I noticed that the lady complaining got back on the plane. But the agent pointed out that they knew more about the person she was concerned abo
72 Goingboeing : The terrorist could create the bogus ID and fly around on American....feel safer now?
73 RiverVisualNYC : If the requirement is government-issued photo ID, it would be quite difficult to create a bogus one. Using your philosophy we might as well do away wi
74 Bicoastal : Doesn't WN accept the Walmart Frequent Shopper card as official ID?
75 7574EVER : The one that I thought was funny was, I believe, the very first incident they showed. The woman wanted to take the entire family to pick up her thirte
76 Post contains images BR715-A1-30 : No, WN accepts the SUNNY COAST TRAILER PARK Resident ID as Identification. But not the Walmart Frequent Shopper Card
77 Goingboeing : If the requirement is government-issued photo ID, it would be quite difficult to create a bogus one. It's no more difficult that printing up conterfei
78 777gk : We won't let you fly unless the TSA clears you through security. We don't have Continental people running the checkpoints, it's run by the TSA. If the
79 SprxflySWA : Well, next week they show one hour of dull, on-time, business travelers in Kansas City. Riveting TV for sure!! Just kidding. Just to make sure, you h
80 Chi-town : "Doesn't WN accept the Walmart Frequent Shopper card as official ID?" Ok, I really don't give a damn if i get banned from the board but, Bicostal, I'v
81 North County : I remember a few years ago on a subject about a new airport for San Diego in which Bicoastal became very upset when a few of us local San Diego poste
82 Jeffrey1970 : I think the better question is why the other "Majors" would not agree to this show. I think it is because of there pride, and pride will always hurt y
83 Spark : Ok, with the childish post from our 16-20 male set aside, this has been a pretty good discusion. I had the same question "Why would Southwest agree to
84 Chi-town : Spark, shove it. Bicostal is an asshole.
85 7574EVER : Spark, very nicely done sir. However, you said, "but the male flight attendant on the show was a walking stereo-type," while I agree with that stateme
86 Dash8King : I had a passenger complain recently that our airline does not do certain things as well as Southwest (unhappy about flying on a smaller aircraft, unha
87 SkipFA : According to the A&E Website, the first 2 episodes of Airline are scheduled to be re-broadcast on Sunday, 1/11/04 from 3 to 4 PM Eastern - in case any
88 LoneStarMike : How many of you would enjoy the little "show" that the F/As put together on the flight to LAS? I'd enjoy it for 5 min then would go crazy.Keep in mind
89 Ual-Fan : Lets see here.....Wallmart and Southwest, they actually do have two things in common. Wallmart is the retailer that literally eats it's competition fo
90 Texan : RiverVisualNYC: I've flown AA, DL, and WN without having them check my ID. They do it at the TSA checkpoint, and don't really need to do it again at t
91 Aa757first : BTW- Why did the China Airlines staff speak English to the couple? I'm sure that China Airlines has ticket agents who speak Mandrin and Cantonese (wh
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