Bruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5099 posts, RR: 13 Posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2857 times:
On a long haul flight, there is a 2nd crew to relieve the first crew when they hit duty time limit. But.... what does the 2nd crew do in the first half of the flight? sleep? do they go right to the Crew Rest Quarters when boarding? And what do they do up there?
When you come "on duty" you should be fully rested as if starting your workday. But for these guys, they have to sit on the plane for several hours before they are put to work. Seems to me that I'd be tired even before reporting to the flight deck for work.
Bruce Leibowitz - Jackson, MS (KJAN) - Canon 50D/100-400L IS lens
MD88Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1351 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2451 times:
At DAL flights over 8 hrs require a 3rd pilot. Although some airlines employ cruise pilots who can only sit in the seat above certain altitudes (approx 20000'), DAL flys an all type-rated crew on those international flights. Usually each pilot takes 1 of 3 rest breaks during the flight.
For flights over 12 hours, there are four pilots. 2 type-rated FO's and 2 Captains. One of the Captains is in charge and the other serves as a member of the crew. Typically at DAL the flight would be broken up into 4 breaks with the 2 crews alternateing rest periods. i.e. a 14 flight may be broken into four 3 hour rest breaks. The reserve crew goes on break about an hour after takeoff, then 3 hours later they jump in the seat and the first crew goes on break, and so on until about an hour before landing.
NWAFA From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1893 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2170 times:
At NWA flights over 10 hours have an extra "captain". So on the -400 there will be 3 that will rotate from flying and resting. On the -200 there are 4 of them and the same. On their breaks they are sleeping, reading, watching a movie.
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Dtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1624 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2120 times:
I noticed 3 pilots getting on the A330 at DTW for my flight to FRA. I was thinking to myself that they must be training new pilots for the 330. Never really dawned on me that the return flight is more than 8 hours and that the pilot would reach his duty time before arriving DTW.