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IB A340-600 In The MAD-BOG-MAD Run!  
User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6468 times:

Hi,


I would like to inform all you Latin American and Spaniard members out there that as part of the general rotation that the IB A340-600 have been experiencing throughout the whole route system in order to test them in different conditions, the usual A340-300 in the MAD-BOG-MAD will be replaced by an A340-600 several days. Big grin

The A340-600 will operate flight IB6741 MAD-BOG instead of the usual Airbus, from January 8th through Junuary 16th; departing MAD at 12:30 and arriving at BOG at 16:55 both local hours.

On the way back, obviously the same A340-600 operating flight IB6740 from BOG to MAD; from the same dates mentioned above; and deparing BOG at 18:25, arriving at MAD the other day at 10:15, both local hours.

As a side note, from January 16th the flight will be downgraded again to A340-300.

Iberia operated 747s on this route about a month ago due to high loads. It lasted a week or so.

All the information is provided by http://www.iberia.com/


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Really expecting some pics in BOG of this big boy. Spotters, set your cameras, you've got 8 days to catch him.

Opinions and any healthy feedback is truly appreciated.




Regards,


SOUTHAMERICA

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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12626 posts, RR: 46
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6318 times:
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Presumably, this is a 'farewell tour' before IB send them back to Airbus?  Wink/being sarcastic


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User currently offlineIBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1831 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6211 times:

I don´t think IB will be sending back any aircraft to Airbus...I´m sure things will finally work out fine and IB will be happy with their new A340-600. I have to mention that I don´t have any preference for Airbus or Boeing...they both make good crafts.

In response to SOUTHAMERICA...congratulations!! I´m happy that you´ll finally get you chance to see this big bird in BOG. I remember talking with you about this in another thread...well, there you have it..I´ll be waiting to see your pictures!!

Saludos desde España y Feliz Año Nuevo!

Alfonso



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User currently offline9V-SVC From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 1797 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6193 times:

Would love to see IB in Singapore , just a pity for the code share and I am sure Airbus and IB will sort out the problemes with the new aircrafts.


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User currently offlineCasa235-300 From Spain, joined Jul 2002, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 6142 times:

Hi Southamerica

Is nice to know that IB will use their new A340-600's for the route to BOG, a very important destination for Iberia.

I have only a question for you. Why are so little quantities of photos took in Bog airport? I've live in this city for a long time and I was 1 and 1/2 year ago in Colombia for Holidays, where I saw some airlines that fly to BOG but there is any picture of these in the DB ( I'm not spotter yet). It will be interesting (for me will be) to see photos from Bogota ElDorado and of course of other airports. Are you spotter? ¿It's very difficult to do?

Bye and Feliz Año Nuevo

Ví­ctor


User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5990 times:


Thanks a lot guys for the feedback.


IBERIA747,


Thank you. I was really hoping to see IB's big boys comming to BOG and this is precisely what I was expecting. It was about time ! Big grin Happy new year to you too.


Casa235-300,


Thanks for your reply. I'm not a spotter actually, but I know that airplane photography in BOG is kind of tough because the airport hasn't got a sepcific good place where to see the airplanes. It's easier to spot in other airports like my hometown Medellin. Happy new year to you too.


Regards


SOUTHAMERICA


User currently offlineTolosy From Luxembourg, joined Oct 2003, 357 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5939 times:

Good news for Airbus fan. ( I am a Boeing fan as well)

I really like the A340-600, I haven't seen her yet.

Presumably, this is a 'farewell tour' before IB send them back to Airbus?

That was a good one  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineYV136C From Venezuela, joined Mar 2003, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5873 times:

Federico,

Can you lend me some pesos so I can go watch? Won't they bring the A346 to CCS???

Luis
YV136C



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User currently offlineJuanr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5865 times:

Hi!! Those are really good news for us here in Bogota!!!! I will be at El Dorado Airport to watch this plane!!!

Casa 235-300:

Well, I go to El Dorado Airport quite often to watch planes landing on runway 13R, there is no problem going there and you can actually be at 200mts from the end of the runway; however, two years ago my cousin and I went there with a camera and soon after we got there an anti-explosives patrol came and asked why we were taking pictures to the planes, they searched our car and we had to go to the police station at El Dorado Terminal, where we were interrogated for one hour or so, and then they released us but kept the tape of the camera to analyze our "criminal activities"

I am a lawyer here so I told the police that we were doing nothing wrong, that there are no signs saying it was forbidden to take pictures, and that according with our law "lo que no esta expresamente prohibido esta tacitamente permitido" (sorry, I can't translate that very well) so we did nothing wrong.

So...if it was hard to spot at BOG at that time now it is even harder with our new paranoic and authoritarian government.

Greetings from Bogota!!

Juan


User currently offlineBongo From Colombia, joined Oct 2003, 1863 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5799 times:

Hi Juanr...nice to know you will be near the airport in that dates, so can we expect pictures?
About your phrase... I think the right translation may be: "Which is not expressly (?) forbidden is tacitly (?) permitted"..(using the spell check didn't correct those words) corrections are welcome !!!
BTW: something similar happened to me a few months ago here in Medellin, the difference was that FAC 001 was approaching...so the police made me move and I miss that old plane landing  Smile)




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User currently offlineAsterix From Austria, joined Jan 2004, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5734 times:
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I used to live in Bogota for many years. And I agree with Juanr :

It is difficult to take pictures in SKBO because either your camera will be stolen (hopefully without injuries) or you will be arrested (like Juanr) without there being any specific law prohibiting the activity of taking pictures of airplanes.

On the other hand, in a country so overtaken by terrorism, I can't think of any policeman who doesn't become curious by this activity. And they obviously want to make sure nothing happens on their watch. Attempts have in fact been made to shoot down Colombia's Air Force One on final.

Well Juan, I'll be waiting for your pictures of the A340-600. It is going to be interesting how this fully loaded aircraft takes off from SKBO's altitude of roughly 8600 ft.


User currently offlineJuanr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5684 times:

Well, probably I'll be there on monday, I just hope planes will land on runways 13L/13R and not 31L/31R as it's usual this season; two months ago we went to the end of runway 13R and two ours after our arrival the winds changed and we missed almost every heavy aircraft that landed that day.

Guys, I am not sure I'll risk myself again, I do not want to be arrested, however I will try to get some pictures but I can't promise anything.

Bongo; thanks for your translation, I hate when I have to translate those phrases.

Juan


User currently offlineCasa235-300 From Spain, joined Jul 2002, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5590 times:

Hi

Southamerica and Juanr. Thanks for the info. I can imaging how difficult can be to take photos in Eldorado. There was big window between the domestic gates and the international ones. I can remember that they have built some offices there and now is possible to see the planes in the restaurants at the entrance of the domestic gate (Presto I think) and some free window at the international gate entrance. The is also a restaurant that have their windows at the runway, but I don't know if it still exist. I know that since the new government is there, many thinks have changed in name of peace. And outside there is a Neighbourhood but I don't know if there is to secure to do anything, maybe not, really?

Anyway guys I wish ypu all the best taking photos, good luck. It will be great it we can met us when I visit Bog someday. I'm thinking to visit BOG and Colombia in 2005

hasta luego



User currently offlineYV136C From Venezuela, joined Mar 2003, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5550 times:

Guys,

while taking off from 31L at SKBO last week I saw out the window (I was sitting on the left side of the aircraft) that there's a fence that runs paralell to runway 13/31. It looked like you could be on the other side of the fence and take pitcures without any problems....is this the place where you ran into trouble, juan?
I'd really love to go back and besides doing other things, watch the IB A346! Lucky you!


Luis
YV136C



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User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5480 times:

Casa235-300,

In fact, as you mention above, there are several windows inside the terminal from where you can spot the apron activity and some runway operations. I don't live in Bogota, but have been there many times nonetheless. The large windows between the domestic and international terminals are the most popular places within the airport to watch some movement. You can spot some activity, but nothing too interesting really. The runways are visible from the terminals, but unfortunately those are areas only travelling passengers can access, as you have to show your boarding passes to enter the correspondant terminal.

I think that McDonald's is the restaurant that faces runway 13L/31R, but it isn't too good for spotting either because the whole runway length is not visible. Anyhow, you can see the regional stands and some domestic gates from there.

The Avianca Terminal is even worse for spotting. No good places at all.

And, to add to it, I think that photographing within the airport is not permitted either. So you could get in trouble if you get caught by a authority agent.


YV136C,

The times I've been in BOG, I've also tried to look for good places in the sorroundings. I kinda remember the fence you talk about near runway 13R/31L. But there's a problem, I recall seeing that the airport is a few feet more elevated than the rest of the neighborhood that sorrounds it (specially on the side you mention), so it's nearly imposible to see the runway from the road, and I imagine that if you climb the little hill, you'll be in trouble aswell.

There may be some spots to watch the airplanes, but they're extremely limited and police keeps an eye out for "suspicious" activity.  Insane


Juan, please correct me if I'm wrong and add more info if you can.


Regards,


SOUTHAMERICA


User currently offlineJuanr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5421 times:

Hi

Yes, there is a fence that runs parallel the runway, however it is an inner fence and the is a hill about 10ft and another fence so it is impossible to spot anything there. The place where we actually go to see the aircrafts is outside the city, not in the neighborhoods and there is no problem with police or authorities and a lot of people go there (if you know the city I can give you the indications on how to get there). You can see aircraft landing very close to you and it is great, the problem is that if they think you are doing something suspicious they can arrest you as it happened with us, so we go there just to enjoy the day but not to take pictures.

On the terminal there is a big window where you can see the inner side of the platform but the glass is dirty and on the afternoon the sun is too bright so perhaps it is not a good place to take pictures. Also the heavier aircraft are parked on the outer side. I agree with south America, the best place to spot is inside the terminals but the problem is that you must have a boarding pass. Now, on the northern side of the airport, where McDonald is, there is a huge window where we used to see the regional ramp and part of the 13L/31R runway, unfortunately, I don't know why, the aeronautica civil increased the height of the wall between the ramp and the street and you can see almost nothing from there. Now, McDonald is not a good place to see the runway as they've closed the part of the restaurant that had the big windows so....I miss all times where there was an observation deck!!!

Guys, wish me luck, I'll do my best

Juan


User currently offlineAsterix From Austria, joined Jan 2004, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5376 times:
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I know the place Juan is talking about very well. It is on an unpaved road, approx. 200 yards away from the threshold of runway 13R. Great place.

In that area are many other side-roads you might try to "hide" from authorities. Not as close, but also great. If you have a zoom lens, even from the road between Funza and Siberia good pictures can be taken without the hastle of authorities.

Now, if the approach is on runways 31R/L, then there might be a problem, because the traffic from one rwy to the other is terrible (you never know for sure which runway they will end up being assigned to.

Anyway, with or without pictures, have fun on Monday.


User currently offlineJuanr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5293 times:

Yes Asterix that is the place where we use to go to see the planes, unfortunately I do not have a very good camera nad my photography skills are not too good either, it is great to know that there are more people from here in A. Net

Greetings to everyone

Juan


User currently offlineCasa235-300 From Spain, joined Jul 2002, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5263 times:

Hi Juan

I wish every good and please take care of you taking them. I'll wait for them. One question more. Do you know or someone else, from where was this picture taken?


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User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5229 times:


If I'm not wrong, the picture was taken from the main building above of the airport, were all the offices are.



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If you look in the picture, you'll se a dark building where the "El Dorado" titles are. From one of those floors the view of the domestic cargo ramp must have been taken.


SOUTHAMERICA


User currently offlineCasa235-300 From Spain, joined Jul 2002, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5190 times:

Southamerica

Maybe you’re right but I don't agree with you at all. If you take a little care looking into the photo that I put before, It's possible to see that the Avenida Eldorado pass in front of the building from where the photo was take and the airport terminal in the other side. Well this is what I can remember from my last visit and from the years that I lived in Bogotá. Can you confirm this?

Thanks and Regards

Casa235-300


User currently offlineJuanr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5153 times:

Casa 235

I have to agree with SOUTH AMERICA, the picture was taken either from the black building or from the control tower, 100% sure is from one of those places. If you take a look at the pictures that Diego Andres Torres has uploaded to the database you'll see that he had (has) access to a restricted areas that are from where he took those pictures.

Juan


User currently offlineAsterix From Austria, joined Jan 2004, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5070 times:
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About 3 years ago I had the chance of visiting the tower and from what I remember, the picture must have been taken from it. If you look at the other picture (the airport from the outside), you will notice that in front of the tower there is a ladder that goes up to the roof. Well, wher the ladder starts, there is a small balcony that the controllers sometimes use during their breaks. The picture must have been taken from there. The direction of the picture is looking towards runway 31R.

If Mr. Torres reads these messages, maybe he can clarify.


User currently offlineYV136C From Venezuela, joined Mar 2003, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4987 times:

Guys,

I say we get together and figure this one out (the mistery of where the pic was taken from) and also see Iberia's A346....I need an excuse to go out to SKBO again!

Luis
YV136C



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User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4897 times:


YV136C,

Luis, I'm afraid to tell you there's actually nothing to figure out about the photo now. It was definitely taken by the airport's main building, without a doubt. If not, from where else?? A post light?? a tree?? Yeah sure.  Insane

Anyhow, you are more than welcomed in our country when you want to pass by. By the way, you should give yourself a visit to Medellin, as fares are fairly low from BOG. Give it a shot !.


Regards,


SOUTHAMERICA


25 SOUTHAMERICA : Juan, I have a question. In what gate would the A340-600 be accomodated due to it's large wingspan? It would be really great to see it to the 31 appr
26 Juanr : South America: Good question: I think it won't be parked on any gate on the inner side of the platform so perhaps we won't see it from the terminal, t
27 SOUTHAMERICA : Juan, Thanks a lot for the info. I would be really interesting to seee the all-new A340-600 in BOG, if I could, I would really like to purchase a tic
28 Bongo : Hi guys... Juan: Just to wish you luck trying to see this plane and do your best to take pics, I know there are many places you spot. Also want so tel
29 Post contains links and images Wimpycol : Hello guys! First thank you all for the posts! Finally more news about Colombian aviation on A.net. Great to hear that finally there will be a new wid
30 Iberia340600 : SOUTHAMERICA: Dont expect to see the 340-600 indefinitely on the MAD-BOG route until we get more 340-600's. Right now they are being rotated on differ
31 SOUTHAMERICA : IberiaA340600, With all your respect, do you mean that IB's website is inaccurate?? Because in the schedules they clearly show that from January 8th
32 Iberia340600 : SOUTHAMERICA: I was making a comment to your question stated here: "If anyone in IB knows the possibilities of the A340-600 staying on this route the
33 Post contains images SOUTHAMERICA : IB340600, Thanks for clearing things up !. SOUTHAMERICA
34 Iberia340600 : Your welcome SOUTHAMERICA! Check my edit...BOG will be seeing the 340-600 through the end of January!
35 Post contains images SOUTHAMERICA : Guys, the aircraft indeed has been comming to BOG daily as scheduled from the beginning. It was seen today (January 12th) landing on runway 13R at ap
36 YV136C : Iberia340600, Indeed my screen name is the registration of one of Viasa's DC-10's .....just paying my respects to one of the best airlines to grace th
37 Juanr : Luis: unfortunately Federico is in Medellin and he can't come to BOG to see the aircraft; it is great to hear that it is going to be used on weekdays
38 YV136C : Juan, sorry about that, I keep confusing where you guys are at.....won't happen again! Luis YV136C
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