Esajh From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3534 times:
I doubt if anyone is flying it in an airliner configuration. We do a lot of the WATRS flying with our EOWs (319, 320 & 321s) but that is about it. PHL-TBPB or BOS-TJSJ, KPHL-TNCA are about the longest “over-water” routes we have. They block 5+ hours. The longest I have flown (in the baby buses) was PHL-SEA in a 321. That is about it for the 321 (block 6+18), but the 319 can go on a bit more.
It would be really stretching a loaded 321 to do a Cork to Gander hop, but anything more on the NATS (especially westbound in the winter) would make me feel uncomfortable to the point I would not fly it. Not much better with a 320 and only slightly better with a 319 EOW!
AZMD80 From Italy, joined Nov 2003, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3379 times:
I think that none airline use A320 over ocean in revenue flight.
The only airline that use them on really transcontinental flight is British Mediterranen, on BA colours, that flight a fllet of A320 and 321 from LHR to many asian destinantion non served by BA directly with Wide bodies.
Everyway there aren't ETOPS operation.
Captaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3366 times:
Well, Skyservice was ready to go with their A319 across the Atlantic. I believe the routes they were looking at were YHZ to LGW and also YHZ to AGP. Maybe somebody can clear that up for me.
Also, I was told this from a Westjet pilot ... Westjet may consider flying YYC to LHR sometime in the future. Apparantly, the 73G with winglets can just do it profitably. Would be interesting to see a 737 fly from near the west coast of Canada to the west coast of Europe!!!
Regarding A320's for FS2002, you should really try the PSS A320 for sale. It's a nice program.
"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
UnitedFirst From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 478 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3217 times:
so from what I am getting there are no airlines that operate any 318,319,320,321 over any ocean.
As UTA_flyingHIGH pointed out, PrivatAir is operating A319CJs in a full-Business Class configuration on behalf of Lufthansa, to destinations such as Chicago and New York.
And as pointed out, Procter & Gamble has A320s crossing to Atlantic due to heavy traffic between its North American base (Cincinnati) and its European base (Brussels). This service started when Sabena ended its Cincinnati-Brussels service a few years back.
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 18825 posts, RR: 48
Reply 16, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3168 times:
The answer is basically, no. Other than the Privatair and biz jet crossings over the North Atlantic, no one has bothered to start the ETOPS (for any significant allowance over water other than the North Atlantic) process for the 320 family. Aloha, by comparison, has been-there done-that with their 737-700s and even their 200s.
LanAlemania From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2969 times:
I have a printed timetable of Air Malta (26th Mrach to 28th October 2000), which shows a flight from Malta to New York via Shannon. As I know, they had only Boeing 737s and A320s in their fleet in these days, and probably did this transatlantic flight with an A320.
707CMF From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 27
Reply 20, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2821 times:
Stopping in Shannon could well be to change equipment for a codeshare with EI, then again, Shannon being the westernest European airport (excl. Iceland), it could be the mandatory refuel stop before crossing the pond.