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318, 319, 320, 321 Any To Ocean Crossings  
User currently offlineMckennasmall From Canada, joined Dec 2003, 249 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3697 times:

Does any airline use any Airbus 318, 319, 320, 321 do any trans-pacific or trans-atlantic flights.

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User currently offlineUTA_flyingHIGH From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3657 times:

PrivatAir (Switzerland) flies an A319CJ across the pond on behalf of LH, and AF is looking to do the same. The Volkswagen and DaimlerChrysler ACJ's regularly cross the Atlantic.

Regards,
UTA



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User currently offlineGaut From Belgium, joined Dec 2001, 344 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3482 times:

When I worked at BRU I've often seen an A320 (or 321) flying for Procter & Gamble to CVG.

I don't know the operator, maybe somebody could add some precision.

Gaut



«Horum omnium fortissimi sunt Belgae.»
User currently offlineEZYAirbus From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2462 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3434 times:

Can do it all the time on FS2004 with unlimited fuel! :P

sorry hehe

Glenn



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User currently offlineMckennasmall From Canada, joined Dec 2003, 249 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3411 times:

How can you get airbus on flightsim2002


User currently offlineRamme From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3343 times:

Mckennasmall: this is completely off-topic, but go to avsim.com. You can find anything you want.

User currently offlineBrubiac From Bouvet Island, joined Nov 2003, 217 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3332 times:

>>When I worked at BRU I've often seen an A320 (or 321) flying for Procter & Gamble to CVG.

I don't know the operator, maybe somebody could add some precision.

Gaut


It was Ryan International. They used to fly BRU - KEF - CVG - KEF - BRU.


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User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 33
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3193 times:

DaimlerChrysler Aviation also used to stop at KEF on their STR-DET runs. They stopped that when changing from standard 320s to 319CJs.

Daniel Smile


User currently offlineEsajh From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3156 times:

I doubt if anyone is flying it in an airliner configuration. We do a lot of the WATRS flying with our EOWs (319, 320 & 321s) but that is about it. PHL-TBPB or BOS-TJSJ, KPHL-TNCA are about the longest “over-water” routes we have. They block 5+ hours. The longest I have flown (in the baby buses) was PHL-SEA in a 321. That is about it for the 321 (block 6+18), but the 319 can go on a bit more.

It would be really stretching a loaded 321 to do a Cork to Gander hop, but anything more on the NATS (especially westbound in the winter) would make me feel uncomfortable to the point I would not fly it. Not much better with a 320 and only slightly better with a 319 EOW!


User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3083 times:

Airshicknessbag,

Since when does the A319 fly to DET? I have never seen it fly to DET, only to PTK... Please advise.


User currently offlineMckennasmall From Canada, joined Dec 2003, 249 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3038 times:

so from what I am getting there are no airlines that operate any 318,319,320,321 over any ocean.

User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 33
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3012 times:

Maiznblu_757, you´re right, I´m sorry. Mix-up on my part.
Daniel Smile


User currently offlineAZMD80 From Italy, joined Nov 2003, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3001 times:

I think that none airline use A320 over ocean in revenue flight.

The only airline that use them on really transcontinental flight is British Mediterranen, on BA colours, that flight a fllet of A320 and 321 from LHR to many asian destinantion non served by BA directly with Wide bodies.
Everyway there aren't ETOPS operation.
Bie


User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2988 times:

Well, Skyservice was ready to go with their A319 across the Atlantic. I believe the routes they were looking at were YHZ to LGW and also YHZ to AGP. Maybe somebody can clear that up for me.

Also, I was told this from a Westjet pilot ... Westjet may consider flying YYC to LHR sometime in the future. Apparantly, the 73G with winglets can just do it profitably. Would be interesting to see a 737 fly from near the west coast of Canada to the west coast of Europe!!!

Regarding A320's for FS2002, you should really try the PSS A320 for sale. It's a nice program.



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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5201 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2943 times:

I don't think those aircraft are ETOPS.


Third Coast born, means I'm Texas raised
User currently offlineUnitedFirst From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 478 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2839 times:

so from what I am getting there are no airlines that operate any 318,319,320,321 over any ocean.

As UTA_flyingHIGH pointed out, PrivatAir is operating A319CJs in a full-Business Class configuration on behalf of Lufthansa, to destinations such as Chicago and New York.

And as pointed out, Procter & Gamble has A320s crossing to Atlantic due to heavy traffic between its North American base (Cincinnati) and its European base (Brussels). This service started when Sabena ended its Cincinnati-Brussels service a few years back.

-Derek


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17779 posts, RR: 46
Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2790 times:

The answer is basically, no. Other than the Privatair and biz jet crossings over the North Atlantic, no one has bothered to start the ETOPS (for any significant allowance over water other than the North Atlantic) process for the 320 family. Aloha, by comparison, has been-there done-that with their 737-700s and even their 200s.


E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineLanAlemania From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 191 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2591 times:

I have a printed timetable of Air Malta (26th Mrach to 28th October 2000), which shows a flight from Malta to New York via Shannon. As I know, they had only Boeing 737s and A320s in their fleet in these days, and probably did this transatlantic flight with an A320.


User currently offlineUTA_FLYinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2537 times:

Hmmm. That Air Malta thingy seems more like codeshare flight 2 me.
UTA



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User currently offlineLanAlemania From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 191 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2484 times:

UTA_FLYinghigh,

I also wondered when I first saw that route, but there isn't any codeshare mentioned. Maybe they leased some other equipment for that route - there is no more information than the flight itself.


User currently offline707CMF From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 29
Reply 20, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2443 times:

Stopping in Shannon could well be to change equipment for a codeshare with EI, then again, Shannon being the westernest European airport (excl. Iceland), it could be the mandatory refuel stop before crossing the pond.

just my 3c

707


User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 33
Reply 21, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2379 times:


I´ll check my old OAGs for that. Might take two weeks, because they´re stored at my other place. If that question hasn´t been clarified by then, that is.

Daniel Smile


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