Thrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2686 posts, RR: 10 Posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6425 times:
Are the AA Fokker 100s all gone now? I could have sworn between January 1st and January 4th that multiple registrations of AA F-100s were still flying around. A photographer mentioned that on January 5, 2004, the AA F-100s would be gone. Were they really retired this week? I have heard no other photographers mentioned.
FlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 15 Reply 2, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 6204 times:
Yes, the majority of the F100 fleet are now parked. As Flygirlheis stated, the last one is to be retired by the end of the 3rd quarter (Sept 30th). As the F100s are being retired at the rate of 4 per month, 2 MD-80s are taking their place...the ones from TWA from temporary storage. The MD-80s are being converted to AA standards as they're being reactivated. Regards.
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Pilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5 Reply 8, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5879 times:
The Fokker 100s are still a staple for American Airlines at MSP. They operate sill operate all the flights on the AA MSP-ORD runs (11 round-trips on a weekday). Just this week AA got rid of its last F100 flying the MSP-DFW flights and introduced two daily flights operated by American Eagle CRJ700s.
American 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3522 posts, RR: 13 Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5796 times:
I always thought that the final retirement was due end of 2005 but according to what I've been reading on various posts it looks like the retirement of the Fokker 100 aircraft at American has been moved to end of 2004 already. They no longer fly out of DFW, and like Chi-town says they are being pulled out of Chicago Midway. Chicago O'Hare is where all remaining Fokkers will be based till they are retired. It's obvious that the final flight will arrive in Chicago O'Hare.
COEWRNJ, yes I know most of EWR-ORD flights are Fokker 100's with maybe one or two Super 80's. I don't know when they will stop flying EWR-ORD on the Fokker but now we know one more year at the most. I'm not sure the Super 80 will be the replacement on all those flights because American has no less than 18 daily flights LGA-ORD-LGA which are all Super 80's, so I think most of EWR-ORD-EWR flights will be operated by American Eagle jets, either Embraer or Canadairs, EWR-ORD-EWR doesn't need as much capacity as LGA-ORD-LGA has eventhough New York is a big city. Between New York City and Chicago what matters is frequency, not capacity.
ALB-ORD which used to see the Fokker 100 is now operated by American Eagle jets only, by next year DTW-ORD and BNA-ORD will probably be flown by American Eagle only, STL-ORD may still see the Super 80 (ex-TWA aircraft, I wouldn't be surprised) because STL is a hub (former TWA hub like you know) altough diminishing in size, MSP-ORD will see mostly Eagle jets with maybe one or two Super 80's...just to name a few flights which are currently flown on the Fokker 100 aircraft.
Tiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5539 times:
I'm interested in knowing what is going to happen to the flight crews? I heard from someone working there that the captains will be moved and trained on other planes in the fleet and the F/Os are all getting their walking papers, but that of course is just rumor. I wouldn't be surprised to see almost all the F100 routes being replaced by CR7 or CR9s.
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7574EVER From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 478 posts, RR: 5 Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5477 times:
"Here at MDW AA used to operate F100's on MDW-DFW and MDW-LGA. I believe, January 8th, is when they will be replaced w/ S80's."- Chi-Town
I think that may be true. I was out at MDW today and had a AA MD-80 depart right over my head. I was kind of surprised to see that. I'm just so used to seeing the Fokkers. In fact I was so surprised that I spent so much time staring at it rocket into the air that I didn't notice that the light had turned red and I almost rear ended the guy in front of me. Thankfully I didn't. I don't think that would have gone over too well with a cop. "Well...Gee officer, I was watching the airplane fly away"
Right rudder....Right rudder...Come on, more right rudder....Right rudder......Aw forget it, I quit!!
Thrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2686 posts, RR: 10 Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5008 times:
Thank goodness! It's good to know that we will still have 9 months to enjoy the AA Fokker 100s. They truly look gorgeous in AA's colors (What aircraft doesn't?) It distinguishes AA from other airlines, as AA is the only megacarrier in America that operates Fokker 100s. They are true beauties compared to the DC-9s. Such a shame to see them go after only 10 years. I've already had to bear one loss this year...the graceful Delta MD-11. Long live the AA Fokkers!.....'til September. Thanks guys. I owe you.
AIR757200 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1579 posts, RR: 8 Reply 21, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4979 times:
by next year DTW-ORD and BNA-ORD will probably be flown by American Eagle only,
Actually, I believe that DTW-ORD will be a mix of AE and AA S80/738- just going off the information provided by management. While DTW-ORD is a short route and a likely candidate for "all" AE service, the combination of cargo/baggage and passenger loads itself will keep mainline equipment on this route.
Plane Holland From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 440 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (9 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4777 times:
from the Fokkersite:
Fokker Services launches Future100
Hoogerheide - 6 February 2003
Today, during the first worldwide Fokker 100 (prospective) customer conference, Fokker Services launched the FUTURE100 program.
This program is aimed at re-marketing the Fokker 100's which are currently available for lease or sale. In the FUTURE100 program, Fokker Services and Rolls-Royce created a marketing alliance in which they will jointly approach and assist operators in business cases for start-up operators or for fleet expansion of current operators of the Fokker 100 aircraft.
At the same time, key vendors such as ABSC, Honeywell, Rockwell Collins and Messier Dowty announced to become partners in the FUTURE100 program. Lessors have been invited to join as well.
The result of these efforts is that Fokker Services can offer a competitive customised support package based on a fixed fee per flight hour. The competitive position of the Fokker 100 in its segment has been strengthened. The partner companies will guarantee service, spare parts and support for Fokker 100's well into the next decade.
"Fokker 100's have proven to be -and still are- reliable, economically very competitive and can easily be included in any fleet", remarked Erik Goedhart, Fokker Services Vice President Marketing & Sales. The alliance with Rolls-Royce and partnership with major vendors such as ABSC, Honeywell, Rockwell Collins and Messier Dowty means that the aircraft, especially brakes, engines and avionics systems, will stay on the cutting edge. "Operators can thus confidently opt for the Fokker 100 aircraft for many more years of sustained competitive operations, backed by some of the world's leading corporations in the aviation industry", he added.
With airline operators looking to rationalize costs, the economic arguments for adding Fokker 100s to a fleet or keeping these in service for a prolonged period are very strong. Erik Goedhart: "Acquisition costs are low and operational costs are very competitive with comparable aircraft. Major Fokker100 lessors are therefor able to offer advantageous leasing programs, turning the Fokker 100 into one of the most competitive aircraft in its market segment."
(For more information, fleet operators can consult www.myfirstfokker.com.)
Fokker Services supplies integrated maintenance and modification services to aircraft operators and owners. Fokker Services is part of the Stork Aerospace Group. The group has 3,335 employees and achieved a turnover of EURO 421 million in 2001, out of the total Stork turnover of EURO 2.2 billion.
For Continued Competitive Operation
a proud member of the Stork Aerospace Group
regards, Plane Holland
25 The777Man: Any idea how many ex-TW M80s that have been brought back to service and which ones (eg reg. or fleet number) ? Thanks! The777Man
26 PSU.DTW.SCE: DTW-ORD will never go Eagle. A handful of weekly flights might go RJ as the occasional weekend and midday flights are now an ERJ. The majority of flig
27 Br715-a1-30: They are true beauties compared to the DC-9s. Thrust, I have to disagree with your perfectly logical opinion. I believe the DC9 is much more beautiful
28 Redngold: Saw an AA F-100 at HPN, scheduled HPN-ORD-RST. This was on January 3, 2004. Apparently the F-100s have been on that exact run for many years now. I've
29 Tekelberry: I wouldn't be surprised to see almost all the F100 routes being replaced by CR7 or CR9s. AA doesn't fly the CR9 nor do they have any plans to do so. A
30 The777Man: Thanks for your reply Tekelberry although that was not really what I was looking for. I knew that already. I was wondering specifically how many of th
31 Spyglass: As of yesterday, there were 36 F100's active, that is, not at MHV. 22 of the TW 80's are at ROW, 43 have been absorbed into the AA fleet (as M83G's),
32 Thrust: I think I can give you some of the registrations, The777Man. I will tell you that I know that registrations from N901 to N919TW were retired, so there
33 PSU.DTW.SCE: Several of the TW 757's had leases that expired in late 2003/early 2004....
34 Tekelberry: Thanks for your reply Tekelberry although that was not really what I was looking for. I knew that already. I was wondering specifically how many of th
35 Thrust: PSU.DTW.SCE, I was well aware that several of the TWA 757s's leases have already expired or are about to expire. It's very interesting. I have not see
36 Thrust: Also, Tekelberry, one thing to point out. Ex-TWA MD-80s are becoming harder to recognize in many regards. If you talk about just MD-82s, I don't know
37 The777Man: Tekelberry: Thanks for your efforts; at least you replied ! No problems! Thrust: Thanks for the info: So really no idea then if any ex-M80s have been
38 Thrust: Some MD-83s in storage as well...interesting. That is something quite honestly I didn't know about. I thought I heard that the MD-82s, now that I thin
39 Aaway: "Has anyone thought that maybe using the F100's on the California Routes (SJC-LAX, SNA, SAN etc)... This idea had been floated at one time during the
40 Boeing767mech: Also interesting to hear that the ex-TW M80s now has "Super 80" under the nose, haven't noticed that yet. I have noticed in the last month or so that
41 Greaser: Will all of the planes be replaced by the md80??? And how old are their F100 and Md80s anyway?
42 Thrust: Yes, Greaser, I'm certain the MD-80s are going to replace the F-100s. The F-100 is actually over 10 years younger than the MD-80s. Most of AA's Fokker