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User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 2
Posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2025 times:

Can anyone provide definite slot/passenger limits for the airport, please?

Also, are commuter slots available for airlines, and if so, up to what size/weight aircraft are eligible for these? Would the EMB-170? What about the ERJ-145 or CRJ-70?


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User currently offlineAaway From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 1993 times:

SNA is not slot controlled, per se, but has a hard pax cap that dictates the number of flights that can be operated there. The cap and flights can be adjusted by the Orange County Board of Supervisors. Until last year, that magic number was 8.4 million pax p/yr. However, during Winter 2002/2003, the O. C. Board adjusted that number upward. 2004, the number rises to 8.7 million pax p/year. 2005, I believe the number is 9.0 million pax p/year.
It's the adjustments in that cap that permitted F9 and YX to commence service there. The court settlement that adjudicated this issue was crafted in 1985.
The website http://www.ocair.com has been updated with the new cap info. The original settlement numbers are as follows:

Phase 1: A maximum of 55 average daily departures (ADDs), no more than 39 of which may be operated with Class A aircraft. A maximum of 4.75 million annual passengers during any Plan Year (April 1 - March 31).

Phase 2: A maximum of 73 average daily departures (ADDs) are permitted which include 39 Class A ADDs and 34 Class AA ADDs. Additional Class E departures are permitted without limitation. The passenger service accommodated by Commercial Carrier Class A, AA and Class E aircraft departures and associated arrivals is limited to 8.4 million annual passengers (MAP) during any Plan Year.

The amended information is as follows:
To address an interest in extending environmental protection for the community and the growing demand of aviation services, the original settlement agreement was re-examined by the original signators. A new modified amendment was designed to facilitate the current and future forecasts of increasing travel demands, while maintaining an environmentally sensitive facility.

JWA received a letter from the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) in 2002, which concluded that the modifications to the amended John Wayne Airport Settlement Agreement are fully consistent with applicable federal law. Shortly thereafter, JWA received the necessary court order signed by the Honorable Terry J. Hatter, Jr. of the Central District Court of California to fully implement the new agreement.

Key provisions of the Settlement Agreement:
Maintains the curfew until December 31, 2020.

Increases in permitted passenger service levels from 8.4 to 10.3 Million Annual Passengers effective January 1, 2003, and 10.8 Million Annual Passengers effective January 1, 2011 through December 31, 2015.

The amendment permits JWA to construct up to six additional passenger-loading bridges.

An increase in the number of noise regulated flights allocated to passenger commercial carriers from 73 average daily departures to 85 average daily departures.

The flexibility to allocate two additional daily cargo flights to passenger carriers on a temporary basis.

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