Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Is Something Up At Westjet?  
User currently offlineCanadaEH From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 1341 posts, RR: 4
Posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3974 times:

I've been told that something big is happening but nobody is able to say why. Certain departments are working harder and more determined than they have in a long time, with a lot of time and dedication being put towards whatever is going on. I've been told "it will all be clear in a few weeks". Rumours are flying around faster than they have been in a long time, but what could it be? Any ideas?


EH.
17 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineRobsawatsky From Canada, joined Dec 2003, 597 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3896 times:

Well, the only thing "big" that I can think of is that they are going to start running transborder US/Canada service, which has been mentioned as something they eventually would like to do. But then again, this thread starts upon the basis of rumour.


User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3413 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3830 times:

That would be my best guess - the trans-border service and/or the hook-up with WN??????

User currently offlineAlekToronto From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 328 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3796 times:

I actually think the best tie up would be between Westjet and Jetblue..if handled properly could be great synergy...however I don't think Low Cost Carriers have any history of co-operating with other LCC's..so this would be a precident.
WJ could start by offering flights to JFK and LGB from various Canadian cities to tie into Jetblues US network.
If there isnt a tie-in with B6 or WN I wonder where Westjet would want to fly? maybe Western Canada to California/Arizona/Nevada?

gotta love rumours..
cheers!
Alek


User currently offlineDash8King From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 2743 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3676 times:

An agreement with Jetblue is more likely because of whats his face who helped with WJ, I would love to see them do that. However I am guessing it will just be trans-border ops.

User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12167 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3649 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
FORUM MODERATOR

Since Westjet has just ordered more B737-700 and still have more on order, could these be the reason to the secrets at Westjet (starting flights to the USA)?

User currently offlineFiedman From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 210 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 3646 times:

I heard a rumor a few months ago that Westjet is looking into purchasing some Regional Jets from either Bombardier or Embraer. This is to get back into some of the smaller cities that they use to fly but don't anymore like YAM and YTS, I wonder if this has something to do with this.


Westjet - Canada's National Low-fare Airline
User currently offlineJustplanesmart From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 722 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3615 times:

"Is something up at WestJet?" - yes, RPK's, ASK's, frequencies, etc.

As is the case with all LCC's.



"So many planes; so little time..."
User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3580 times:

I heard a rumor a few months ago that Westjet is looking into purchasing some Regional Jets from either Bombardier or Embraer. This is to get back into some of the smaller cities that they use to fly but don't anymore like YAM and YTS, I wonder if this has something to do with this.

I don't think so. The Embraer 170 was at the WestJet hangar in YYC and gave some rides to WS' brass some months ago, but conflicting rumours state that Embraer brought the 170 to YYC of their own accord to show it off and try and attract WS' interest, others stating that WS expressed an interest in seeing the aircraft after the B6 order..... I don't think it was confirmed as being either.

I heard there was a statement made about the same time officially, stating that the fact the Embraer 170 was in YYC did not mean that WS was looking to buy it. I think WestJet has every intention of continuing its good business dealings with Boeing..... that'd make sense, considering their size.

But you never know.

As for the current rumours.... I heard from some WS folks that there might be a announcement around mid-week; Maybe Wednesday, January 14th. I don't know for sure, the rumour mill seems to be rather abuzz at WestJet right now from what I can tell too, and there's conflicting rumours coming from WS people as to what the announcement will be about. Lots of guesses, not a lot of real information - which isn't a surprise.....



"Talk to me, Goose..."
User currently offlineWhiteguy From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 793 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3488 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

I agree Jetblue would be the one they may hook up with. David Neelman had a big hand in starting WJ.

User currently offlineFly_yhm From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1681 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3480 times:

Hopefully its transborder opps or new destinations out east Charlottetown Fredricton etc. Hopefully something including yhm. I think that if they did partner up with a us counterpart it would be Jetblue. I hope for B6 as well but who really know it could end up being Airtran or something, we are talking the airline industry here.


Where will you spend eternity? He,s more real then you think!!!!!
User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3415 times:

Maybe it'll be about the official startup date of all the new routes and increased frequencies they planned on starting in 04, which was announced just before Christmas.

User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3279 times:

As per the media, Clive has called a mandatory staff meeting tonight at 19:30 at YHM for a big announcement.

My fear is that flights will leave YHM for the vacancies at T3 at Pearson.

I hope that's not the case. Hope it is good news. We'll see.

Andy



What's another word for thesaurus?
User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3217 times:

Hrm, well... it might be. WestJet has seen some very positive results in YYZ, but I don't think they're enough to warrant pulling service out of YHM. The cost difference is rather large. To use an old saying, it's really six of one and half-a-dozen of another.

I don't know. I heard a rumour that the new terminal project in YHM was held up because of some sort of wrangling. It might prompt a decision like this - I mean, we've seen WestJet in recent months try and use its influence to make - some would say, bully - the Edmonton Airports Authority to close YXD. WestJet might do the same in YHM to light a fire under the Airport Authority there. I guess only Clive & Co. would really know for sure.....



"Talk to me, Goose..."
User currently offlineYEGspotter From Canada, joined Dec 2003, 188 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3191 times:

I think the issue in Edmonton regarding YXD is more than just Westjet bullying the airport authority to close the airport. The problem with YXD is the fact that the small airlines still flying out of that airport are routinely breaking the rules regarding the number of passengers allowed on their flights. Why should these smaller airlines be allowed to operate flights that blatantly break the rules?? I've always like Edmonton's City Centre airport, and I would hate to see it close, but I think that the airlines flying out of there should follow the rules... (perhaps I should have started another thread on this issue - this really doesn't have much to do with the Westjet rumors....) I'm sure Westjet would love to fly into YXD, but that will never happen due to the restrictions that are in place at that airport....

User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3153 times:

I think the issue in Edmonton regarding YXD is more than just Westjet bullying the airport authority to close the airport. The problem with YXD is the fact that the small airlines still flying out of that airport are routinely breaking the rules regarding the number of passengers allowed on their flights. Why should these smaller airlines be allowed to operate flights that blatantly break the rules?? I've always like Edmonton's City Centre airport, and I would hate to see it close, but I think that the airlines flying out of there should follow the rules... (perhaps I should have started another thread on this issue - this really doesn't have much to do with the Westjet rumors....) I'm sure Westjet would love to fly into YXD, but that will never happen due to the restrictions that are in place at that airport....

If that were the case, then WestJet should be pushing the Edmonton Airports Authority to enforce the rules with carriers like Peace Air and so on. That sounds fair, and wouldn't be interpreted as bullying. Most of those operators only fly dozen-seat types into YXD anyway.

But, what Clive was saying was that these small-time operators were cutting into WestJet's services to YQU and YMM, and that WS wanted the EAA to close YXD and force those operators to consolidate at YEG.

I can understand Clive's desire to make a bigger buck - he's a businessman - but he should count on the improvements on his own airline's service - IFE, increase legroom, extensive connections - to draw pax to WS in the YEG region; not trying to push competitors who serve niche markets, as Peace Air and other operators at YXD has a lot of business pax who prefer the convenience. Making Peace and others move to YEG to effectively neuter them and end up bringing those pax to YEG out of necessity. WestJet doesn't need to use those tactics to improve its yields.... it has enough going for it already.

Alas, I know that YEG Airport has been noticeably slower in its growth over the past years, as compared to YYC.... so it may be that WestJet hasn't been seeing steady growth at YEG that they'd like to see, while small operators out of YXD have seen some boom times since the expansion of projects in the Oilsands region and elsewhere.

YEG seems to suffer from these problems for as long as I can remember..... Air Canada has increasingly moved to consolidate at YYC at the expense of flights from YEG - indeed, YEG has become more and more of a "spoke" from the YYC hub over the past years. It makes sense, considering that most of Alberta's population is in the south of the Province, and most of the business interests are based in Calgary. It's really better to promote one large airport to draw international traffic, than it would be to have two mid-size airports vying for the same services.

Anyway......



"Talk to me, Goose..."
User currently offlineSamurai 777 From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 2458 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3120 times:

Speaking of YXD...If YXD had remained like it was before 1996, before the restrictions on scheduled pasenger services - WestJet would've set up shop at YXD in no time at all. But, alas, WS only started flying that very same year the restrictions came into effect at YXD!

However, YXD will be completely shut down well before 2010, whether the City of Edmonton and passengers, especially those from northern Alberta, like it or not. The main terminal, built in 1972, has already been converted into a high school, believe it or not. The ERAA, I believe, does not want to run YXD that much longer. And you can bet that there are developers and institutions like NAIT who are drooling for that extra land.

Anyhow, it seems we're kinda starting to go off topic here...


User currently offlineCanadaEH From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 1341 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3043 times:

Dripstick: do you have a link as to what was said "as per the media"? As I said earlier, rumours have been flying around for the past week but only today did I hear (from quite a few people) what may be in all actuality - fact. It's surprising and it's big. I'll post it in the forum when its released tomorrow.


EH.
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Something's Up At LGB posted Thu Jul 7 2005 23:41:10 by Pilotparis
Is Something Stirring At JetBlue? posted Sun Nov 7 2004 19:43:57 by JetBluefan1
What Is UP At Air Wisconsin posted Thu Dec 22 2005 04:08:39 by ATWZW170
Anyone At Westjet For A Rego Tie-up Please? posted Sat Nov 19 2005 19:52:02 by RobK
What Is Up At YHZ? posted Thu Aug 18 2005 02:46:52 by YYZatcboy
What Is Up At MSY? posted Sun Oct 26 2003 18:55:25 by Dsuairptman
Something Wierd Is Going On At IAD... posted Fri May 5 2000 22:00:34 by UAPilot7
UA At EWR- Is Something Going On? posted Sat Jan 29 2000 19:21:40 by UAPilot7
What Is Going On At SEA? Stuck In SJC. posted Mon Nov 27 2006 10:06:58 by ASMVPGOLD
How Is WN Doing At IAD? posted Sun Oct 29 2006 16:43:49 by LHUSA