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Alitalia News - new summer timetable  
User currently offlineAirblue From San Marino, joined May 2001, 1825 posts, RR: 11
Posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5429 times:

Here some Alitalia news:

with the new summer timetable Alitalia will increase the number of flights on many routes:

MXP-Algeris from 4 weekly to daily with M80 (there is also a daily flight from FCO)

MXP-Beirut from daily to 8 weekly (3 morning and 5 evening departures)

MXP-Belgrade from 3 weekly (with M80) to daily with ER4

MXP-Bucharest from 2 daily to 3 daily with M80

MXP-Cairo 2 daily flights with A321 in spite of A320.

MXP-Lagos from B763 to B772

MXP-Sofia from daily to 11 weekly with M80

MXP-Teheran from 3 weekly to 5 weekly with A320

FCO-Bucharest from daily to 2 daily with M80

FCO-Zurich new daily flight

However MXP-AMM will be suspended for next summer.


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User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 5380 times:

Apparently they have reduced their frequency on FCO-MAD?

Frederic


User currently offlineDCAYOW From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 602 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5332 times:


They are also introducing

MXP-IAD with 763 on 28 March



Retorne ao céu...
User currently offlineAcho From Mexico, joined Jan 2004, 339 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 5242 times:

Rumors in Mexico have stated that Alitalia will start to fly to MEX and CUN, does anyone know if this is true?

User currently offlineIflyatldl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5149 times:

I WISH ATL could see some MXP service or even FCO on AZ  Big grin


Ah, Summer, Fenway Park, Boston Red Sox and Beer.....
User currently offlineCayman From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 905 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5116 times:

Can you advise what the sked has for YYZ and YUL from MXP and FCO? Many thanks

User currently offline777-500ER From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4975 times:

From my post:

Alitalia is starting a new 767-300ER operated Milan MXP to Washington DC Dulles IAD flight on March 28th taking over what was once one of United's flagship routes.

Schedule is as follows:

AZ 622 MXP 10.30AM IAD 2.00PM

AZ 623 IAD 5.40PM MXP 8.00AM

Note: AZ 622-623 were the flight codes AZ used to use on the MXP-LAX route now not operated anymore.

Michael SFO
 Smile/happy/getting dizzy



User currently offlineMEA321 From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 389 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4952 times:

Its good to see AZ increasing their flights to Beirut, it is a very popular connection for passengers traveling onward from Europe and North America to Lebanon. My guess is that we can expect a further increase in frequency in AZ flights to BEY, maybe even a upsize in aircraft since this flight is mostly booked.

AZ schedules their flight to Beirut so that it leaves at night and comes back to Milan in the morning. The trick is to keep airplanes flying that would normally be sitting on the tarmac in Milan and otherwise not be generating any money.

MEA321



MEA321
User currently offlineAirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 885 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4905 times:

Are they still flying to DKR (Dakar) ?
If yes, which plane and when...

Thanks.


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7582 posts, RR: 42
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4899 times:

I also wish AZ would start flights to MEX and/or CUN. I guess it is feasible as part of AZ's involvement in SkyTeam. With the U.S. VISIT program now in place, I think more and more European travelers will try to avoid connecting in the U.S. when flying to Mexico and Latin American countries (the same goes for Mexican travelers going to Europe), so this may be a good opportunity for AZ.

I think there is considerable air traffic from Mexico to Italy and viceversa. I guess it is composed mostly of tourists, rather than business travelers, but I think it could still be a profitable route.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2388 posts, RR: 28
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4791 times:

Alitalia operates three weekly flights between Milan Malpensa and Dakar with B767-300ER equipment.


Swiss aviation news junkie living all over the place
User currently offlineLhr001 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4744 times:

Dakar used to be operated by the MD-11 Combi aircraft.

Philadelphia to Rome may be a possibility on Alitalia should US Airways fall under as expected!


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4719 times:

How large is the Italian community in Dakar?

User currently offlineLhr001 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4708 times:

It is more of the other way around... How big is the Senegalian community in Northern Italy... Answer: Large!


LHR001


User currently offlineAirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 885 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4558 times:

But also it's of the other way: a lot of italian are visiting countries around the world during vacations... It's crazy, everywhere they go, and in West Africa they go to Senegal.

User currently offlineDaV From Italy, joined Jun 2001, 669 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4479 times:

No Philadelphia, Mexico, Montreal nor Cancun in the near future, I'm repeating this to death, AZ hasn't enough plane to start all those routes!
Mexico is definately there in the future (maybe codeshare with Aeromexico planes and route?), but not now from AZ. Cancun routes are flown from Italy from charter company (Eurofly, Blue Panorama, Volare/Air Europe and Lauda), being low-yield, touristic routes.

Sabena690: I know they'll give up a daily flight to BCN, reducing from 4x to 3x daily. I've checked on AZ web the scheduled for MAD (from MXP) and the flight are 3x daily by AZ and 2x daily by UX (Air Europa); in the summer schedule they don't report anymore the codeshare with Air Europa, but maybe because UX hasn't reported yet their summer schedule (I hope so!). The same fro FCO-MAD, in the summer schedule don't appear (yet) the codeshare flights from UX.

DaV



Two monologues do not make a dialogue
User currently offlineLhr001 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4293 times:

Alitalia is restarting Rome to Verona on the MD-80!



LHR001


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4284 times:

think more and more European travelers will try to avoid connecting in the U.S. when flying to Mexico and Latin American countries

Why? Citizens of all Western European countries (which includes Italy) are 100% unaffected by the new restrictions.



a.
User currently offlineETStar From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4258 times:

I wonder if Alitalia will ever make another attempt at starting up flights to Addis Ababa, Ethiopia...

As for avoiding connecting in the US, even flying one stop flights such as London-Houston on BA via Chicago is a big hassle since every passenger needs to get off at Chicago and clear customs & immigration before boarding the same aircraft for the last leg. Also, connecting through the US is now a hassle for people from ALL countries including western europeans because of the more stringent checks they are subjected to.


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7582 posts, RR: 42
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4229 times:

Thanks for the info DaV. Then it will probably be AM the one that will start flying to FCO or MXP from MEX. I hope that happens soon!!!

MAH4546: I believe the new U.S. VISIT program's restrictions apply to all foreign visitors, including Western Europeans, so my argument that travellers from Latin America to Europe and viceversa will avoid stopping and/or connecting in the U.S. stands.

By the way, anybody knows if AZ will go ahead with its announced plans to merge with Air France KLM after their merger is approved?



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineJrlander From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4185 times:

I am no fan of the Homeland Security Department, but the website of the DHS states:

The US-VISIT program -- United States Visitor and Immigrant Status Indicator Technology -- is a cornerstone of the Department's goals to improve border management at our ports of entry.  By capturing more complete arrival and departure data for those who require a visa to enter the United States, the US-VISIT program will enhance the security of our citizens and visitors while expediting legitimate travel and trade.  

It is only applicable to people requiring visas to enter..... Of course, I have to continually ask why some nationalities (like Brazil) need visas to enter the USA. If connecting traffic is mostly from Western Europe, it will not present a problem.




User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4182 times:

MAH4546: I believe the new U.S. VISIT program's restrictions apply to all foreign visitors, including Western Europeans, so my argument that travellers from Latin America to Europe and viceversa will avoid stopping and/or connecting in the U.S. stands.


No, it does not. Nationals of 29 countries are exempt under the new US-VISIT programme. They are:

Andorra, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brunei, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Mexico, Monaco, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, San Marino, Singapore, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, and United Kingdom.

As well, residents of those nation's territories/possessions are also exempt. These includes residents of French Guyana, Tahiti, the UK Virgin Islands, the Netherland Antillies, and Greenland, to name some.

The majority of the traffic is heading from those destinations, and in even bigger majority of the higher yielding traffic is heading from those destinations.


[Edited 2004-01-12 07:49:22]


a.
User currently offlineA330Fan1 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 856 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4136 times:

Why did Alitalia cancel service to LAX? I remember seeing the MD11 a long time ago, but no more  Sad ...why not?

-A330Fan1


User currently offlineJMO-777 From Germany, joined Apr 2002, 501 posts, RR: 17
Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4073 times:

Hi!
Can you please give me Alitalia's other 777 routes for Summer 04!
Thank you very much!!!

GreetZ,
Jan



~~~ Fly with a Triple Seven and you feel like in heaven ~~~
User currently offline767-332ER From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2030 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3963 times:


Any chance Alitalia could fly to ATL??? I know DL serves FCO and MXP, but maybe a chance...??



Twinjets...if one fails, work the other one twice as hard!!!
25 Post contains links DaV : Lhr001: yes, AZ is restarting FCO-VRN twice daily with Md80 instead of codesharing with Meridiana on the route; Meridiana, in a retaliatory act, is go
26 Sarrebal : DAV I'm still wondering too. There wasn't certainly lack of demand on MXP-LAX.
27 MAH4546 : There wasn't certainly lack of demand on MXP-LAX. No, but there was certainly lack of profit. Too many leisure travelers on bargain fares.
28 DaV : No, but there was certainly lack of profit. Too many leisure travelers on bargain fares. That's certanly true, but as the aircraft deployed on the rou
29 FMAL : I just wish Alitalia would resume its operations at Galeão (GIG) Regards FMAL
30 Lhr001 : San Francisco would have been more profitable if it were not for the 767-300 or the route restrictions. San Francisco woud have been fine if not for t
31 DaV : Alitalia and Delta are fully integrated in an alliance, they codeshare on each transatlantic flight and on many domestic (DL) and intra-european/domes
32 Lhr001 : DaV, You are correct... When the San Francisco service commenced one of the first ideas was to operate the route with the MD-11Combi just as Los Angel
33 Post contains images DaV : Delta Airlines when more 777-200 equipment are available are sure to operate the type to Malpensa Yes, and from time to time they already bring that p
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