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User currently offlineGlennstewart From Australia, joined Jun 2003, 1124 posts, RR: 55
Posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 10300 times:

Hi All,

She's not that old (Delivered August 17, 2003), but in this short space of time, an estimated AUD$250 million will have been spent repairing her.

She was hit by a tug late last year.....  Sad
Photo of First flight after repair, December 30, 2003

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Photo © Glenn Stewart



Not even being in the air 2 weeks, and on a flight between MEL and LAX, she received major damage in a hail storm.

This new Wunula Dreaming isn't doing too well.

Glenn

[Edited 2004-01-11 03:14:33]


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User currently offlineA340pilot From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 10182 times:

Thats kind of ironic, maybe if the aircraft was painted back into classic colors it may survive a bit more! When the tug hit it what color scheme was it? Could be a cursed color!

Best regards,
a340pilot

PS- For anyone who has a comment on my post reply, No, Im not superstitious and the above comment WAS A JOKE!  Big grin



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User currently offlineGlennstewart From Australia, joined Jun 2003, 1124 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 10034 times:

Third party information a bit suss...
Don't think damage was as much as stated above...

Unlucky still

Glenn



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User currently offlineGlennstewart From Australia, joined Jun 2003, 1124 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 10030 times:

My photo must have been after hail....
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,8364650%255E421,00.html




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User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 9682 times:

Maybe if people could spell its name properly it wouldn't be so unlucky Smile

It's WANULA Dreaming!!!


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8617 posts, RR: 43
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 9604 times:

"It's WANULA Dreaming!!!"

Sorry, but not quite  Big grin : http://www.qantas.com.au/infodetail/about/FactFilesNov2002.pdf Use the search function to find "Wunala" when the file has loaded.



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User currently offlineDan2002 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 2055 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 9463 times:

Any a/c painted into TED C/S!





-Dan



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User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 9428 times:

Aloges,

You're right! I guess I didn't do enough research. Airlines 2002 spells it 'Wanula', and there are 18 photos on A.net with that spelling.

At least I was right about it not being Wunula  Smile


User currently offlineUnattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2311 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 9144 times:

"She's not that old (Delivered August 17, 2003), but in this short space of time, an estimated AUD$250 million will have been spent repairing her."

I think the initial cost of the aircraft was 250 mil. Don't think Qantas spent another 250 mil. in repairs.



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User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8903 times:

No, it's the China Air 747-400 that lasted some four months before being 'blown' off the Kai Tak taxiway.

So far, it's been the largest hull write off in aviation history--although I don't know the actual $ amount.


User currently offlineN754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8757 times:

AIR CHINA = CHINA
CHINA AIRLINES = TAIWAN (The crappy airline)


User currently offlinePaddy From Taiwan, joined Jul 2003, 390 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8701 times:

Ah, I figured you were just talking about the entire L1011 series...

User currently offlineIflyatldl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8589 times:

An "Unlucky Aircraft" is one that does not have equal take-offs to landing quota.  Big grin


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User currently offlineMiles_mechanic From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8456 times:

Hey everyone, listening to this post, it reminded me of the airline I used to work for, it is a small commuter airline here in Canada, but exactly 1 week apart, we had 2 Beech 1900's taking off out of the same airport, for the same destination, and both of them received hail damage. The second incident was more severe then the first as the pilots were scared that they were going to loose the aircraft as the turbulance was so bad. The funny thing is that neither storm supposedly showed up on radar on either aircraft. So we had a bit of repair work to do to both aircraft, but it was amazing as it was the same day of the week, just 1 week later between the two aircraft.
Anyone else have strange stories like this one and the main post of the topic? I remember seeing a pic of a Saudi Airlines brand new 747-400 that was written off as it taxied into a drainage ditch and bend the fuselage.

Miles


User currently offlineIslandHopperCO From Micronesia, joined Dec 2003, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8353 times:

My nomination for the unluckiest airliner in history is DC8 number 45653, reg. CF-TJN:


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Photo © Ken Wilkinson



Made in 1962, Overran the runway in 1965 into a cabbage field...extensive damage almost caused it to be written off, but it was repaired and put back into service.

Only two years later, a pilot was being tested and the instructor cut one of the engines at V1 on takeoff. Coincidentally, the other engine on the same side failed at a critical moment, and they couldn't regain control and crashed. Three pilots died.

I read about this from the CVR transcript in the book "Black Box".

Read about it here:
http://aviation-safety.net/database/1967/670519-0.htm

And they say lightning doesn't strike twice!!!


User currently offlineN707PA From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 278 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8284 times:

My vote would go to N7071, the first jet aircraft that was supposed to be delivered to Braniff.

From aviation-safety.net:

The Boeing 707 N7071 was operating on a customer guarantee and acceptance training flight prior to delivery of the plane to Braniff. The plane was being flown by a Braniff captain and a Boeing testpilot as instructor. Other Braniff and Boeing personnel were on board as crew members and observers. A series of Dutch Rolls were performed; one of the rolls was executed beyond the maximum bank restrictions. Control was lost, but the aircraft recovered. During the recovery however, the no. 1, 2 and 4 engines were torn off. An intense fire burned away portions of the jet control near the no.2 engine attachment area. An emergency descent was carried out and the plane crash-landed along river. PROBABLE CAUSE: "The structural failure induced during an improper recovery attempt from a Dutch Roll which exceeded the angle-of-bank limits prescribed by the company."




photo from braniffpages.com


[Edited 2004-01-12 03:45:30]

User currently offlineVoyager From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8088 times:

And the most unlucky airline?

Must be Air Botswana in 1999 when a suicide pilot took off without permission and crash into their fleet destroying all aircraft but one.


User currently offlineIslandHopperCO From Micronesia, joined Dec 2003, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 7764 times:


That's insane! Do you have a link to any info on that incident?


User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4104 posts, RR: 52
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7676 times:

OMG Voyager, never heard of that before!!!

Plot obviously a bit 9-P9-P Nuts Nuts Nuts

Was anyone aboard the other aircraft whn they were destryed????

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User currently offlineAmbiantAir From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7620 times:

http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/botswana/photo.shtml

User currently offlineLindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3103 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 7455 times:
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The non-word "Wanula" has now been excised from the database. It's amazing how many people can misspell a word sometimes..

User currently offlineVimanav From India, joined Jul 2003, 1514 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7263 times:

I'd rate the Avro Tudor as the unluckiest airplane series to be built. Despite being Avro's first post-war transport design it had a series of unfortunate accidents caused by a mix of bad luck and design deficiencies. By the time these were ironed out, the airplane had already been rendered obsolete. It was one of the primary causes for the consequent demise of A V Roe as an airplane manufacturing company.

rgds//Vimanav



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User currently offlineSocrates17 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7241 times:

Odd as it may be for me to post anything regarding military aircraft, I believe the Lockheed Starfighter F-104 was called the Widowmaker in the Luftwaffe due to a high percentage of accidents. I remember at the time many European Air Force representatives complaining that the U.S. had sold them a lemon, but I don't really recall any of the details.


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User currently offlineIslandHopperCO From Micronesia, joined Dec 2003, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7078 times:

Huh...maybe that's why the Avro passenger jet never got approved for production in the 1950s. Imagine how history might have changed.

User currently offlineRA-85154 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2001, 618 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 6919 times:

Read this interesting story in a book of mine on hijackings/bombings called 'Flights of Terror' by David Gero.

Here they mention "one of the unluckiest aircraft ever to have carried passengers":

Phillipine Airlines BAC 1-11 registration RP-C-1184 was twice targeted in a suicide bombing

First attack took place on June 3, 1975, when a man sett off a bomb in a lavatory killing himslef and injuring 45 of the 63 pax/crew. The crew landed safely and the aicraft was repaired.

Second attack took place on August 18, 1975, when exactly the same happened, the saboteur being ejected from the aircraft and the blast leaving a 2ft by 3ft ( c 0.6 m by 1m) hole in the aft fuselage. But again it landed safely. 3 pax of the 80 aboard were injured.

Unfortunately I haven't found any info on the rest of the aircrafts life...

Pretty amazing story...

Martijn


25 Qantas077 : hope she is working without problems when i am in sydney next week!
26 Cedarjet : RA-85154 is right, I'd forgotten about that PAL 111. What's even weirder is that both bombed flights had the same captain. The new Wanula Dreaming 744
27 Wing : She's not that old (Delivered August 17, 2003), but in this short space of time, an estimated AUD$250 million will have been spent repairing her. As f
28 Post contains images 747SPA330MD11 : Socrates17: Yes, there was a joke about the Starfighter during that time the plane was in the German airforce: How it is possible to get an owner of a
29 Kay : Don't forget the comet! It was proudly launched, then had three major accidents in one year, related to "metal fatigue" around the windows area. It wa
30 Alphascan : You might say this was the "luckiest" aircraft until its third incident. Challenger Airlines and then the "old" Frontier Airlines DC3, N65276, This ai
31 Post contains links and images Trident3 : I'd like to nominate Hawker Siddley Trident 1b G-ARPI or"papa india" as she was known. On 3rd July 1968 she was on a stand at LHR when an Airspeed Amb
32 Post contains links and images Fanofjets : Egyptair 737-266 SU-AYH was involved in two incidents within a short time in the mid 1980s. Barely surviving the first, she was later hijacked to Luqa
33 TSL1011 : With respect to the F-104's reputation as a 'widowmaker', I think part of the problem was that both the Luftwaffe and the Canadian Armed Forces were
34 Post contains links and images RA-85154 : Same story about an unlucky aircraft like Trident3 wrote above about G-ARPI: JAL Boeing 747-246SR, JA8119 View Large View MediumPhoto © Kjell nil
35 Startvalve : Did someone say TAILSTRIKE?
36 MYT332 : Yes RA-85154 said tailstrike why? When the 742 was being repaired the fuselage at the rear was only riveted once not doubled riveted so it wasn't as s
37 Post contains links L-188 : This helicopter http://yonkis.com/media/salvamem.wmv Life is tough. It is tougher when your PIC is stupid.
38 Post contains links and images JETBLUEA320232 : Actually, Any ValuJet Or Tower Air planes View Large View MediumPhoto © Carlos Borda View Large View MediumPhoto © Michael F. McLaughlin
39 RA-85154 : I'd like to nominate the DC-10 in general. The DC-10 was the victim of massive negative publicity twice in a decade after two horrific crashes with hu
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