Usnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 54 Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5727 times:
Yes, actually. I'm getting geared over for a rear in the 18E, which will be a blast. In fact, it will be a nice transition since the interior package with the new 18E's is more complex than ever before, so if ole' Goose in the back can handle the radar tracking, it will be a lovely flight for all!
Usnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 54 Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5711 times:
NightFlyer, I tip my hat to you! It has always been my dream to switch to FedEx for as long as I can remember. Especially during the good old days of stocking those lovely 18-wheelers and the Caravan Feeders through college! Of course, by the time I'm out of my service commitment with the Navy, you guys will be operating the new A380's so I will definitely keep trying for it. But, as far as your position goes, well...if you're ever in Pensacola, I'll buy you a round any day.
Futureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2562 posts, RR: 8 Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5623 times:
Deltaguy, I know about the GIBs and whatnot not being able to log that time towards the airlines, so yes I want the front seat, but unfortunatley I dont think Id have too much control over that. I really just want to know what I can do to better my chances of becoming a front-seater.
Best of luck to you, and dont give up!
relating to the topic posted:
My uncle is a Captain with American Airlines, on the B757/767, and has been there around 18yrs.
Usnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 54 Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5568 times:
Thanks for the advice Delta! As far as I'm concerned, I won't be halting my front seat drivin' attempts anytime soon! Although, those are naturally the most sought after, as I'm sure you very well know. Hopefully staring at the sun won't hurt my eyes in the near future! Of course, if FedEx doesn't sign me on when I leave the fleet then your carrier is my next choice...especially with their unwritten preference to ex-military flyboys!
Sure, please email me anytime with any questions you may have.
Flymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6328 posts, RR: 6 Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5292 times:
Hey These are a few questions for SWAbubba and NightFlyer. How old are you now? At what age did you start flying?
If you did not go the Military to get hours how did you get all the Turbine hours you need to fly for SWA and Fed Ex?
I really dont like fighters so i dont want to go the Military even thourgh i could be lucky and get a refueler ETC...
I am only 14 plan to start lessons at 16 and get PPL at 17 early 18. I want to go civil way to make hours some how. Thats why i asked the question. To have a chance with a regional i need atleast 300 Turbine and 1300 in total time. Another question do all those hours you need have to be pilot in command. How many hours did you have when you started with the Airline. Thanks You! I know it is alot to answer.
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
Usnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 54 Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5219 times:
SWAbubba, I'm currently under NFO designation for the Navy with PIC time in the 18's. So, as any good 'Goose' would do, I'm seeking re-designation with NA status. Although, I wouldn't mind having some long-haul experience in the Navy's E-6 fleet, out of Tinker AFB. I'd love to get the MEM-CDG route one day with FedEx, but I'm not picky!
SWAbubba From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 154 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5112 times:
I'm 34 years old and started flying at 23 with the Navy. Don't worry too much about job qualifications yet, everything will change by the time you get the hours to look for an airline job. Just start working on that PPL and building hours, everything else will happen in its own good time.
My new hire class at SWA was exactly half military and half civilian. The civilian pilots came from regional airlines, corporate aviation, and other major airlines. There is no one best way to get to a major airline job, many different types of flying will get you the experience you need.
Good luck, it's a great job and is worth all the hard work it takes to get here!
You mean stick time in the -18s, right? PIC implies you've completed a NATOPS checkride as a pilot in the aircraft.
Anyway, good luck with the redesignation. I know quite a few pilots who used to be NFO's. The Navy shut down the NFO-to-pilot transition while I was in, I always thought it was a dumb thing to do as we had lots of great NFO's who would make fantastic pilots if given the chance.
I flew E-6's, it's a great aircraft but a pretty boring mission. I had a good time and wouldn't trade it for anything.
Flymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6328 posts, RR: 6 Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5009 times:
Thank You SWAbubba. Your right i should just go one step at a time. Or on license at a time. Once I get that ATP i will start worrying about hours. maybe go to one of those good flying programs and work with a corperate airline for a few years. I dont know well see where i am. Hope to see you in the sky. Hey you never know maybe even your FO. !LOL!
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
Usnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 54 Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4992 times:
SWAbubba, yeah, I've already completed my NATOPS, but that was during the time when they thought they NEEDED pilots. Sure enough, times have changed. Lucky enough, the Navy has actually reinstated the re-designation boards for the NFO-to-pilot section and meets these days about 4-6 times per year. So, if I play my cards right, who knows!
But it sure is nice to hear of an E-6 pilot! I've been wanting to fly that for quite a while. The speed gets old after a while, yes yes I know this will be contested, but practice in some heavies sure does sound good. I would do just about anything to get a spot in the Mercury, but what are the odds of that? Actually, if you know this, about how many guys request the E-6 during API? I'm hoping that the luck is still towards those Tom Cruise's who want the speed of a fighter and not the integrity of the heavies.
I do thank you for your comments and hope to hear more from you again soon.
DeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4922 times:
Shoot me an IM on AOL, (its in my info), or email@example.com..
Dad was a Hornet pilot for quite awhile, now is in his 5th year with Delta as a 737 F/O.
Like what was said, there's really no way to know exactly what's gonna get you into the majors..requirements and needs have changed so much in the past years, and will be different when we go up for it..alls I can do is keep the fingers crossed
You're in a great position right now, 'FO or pilot...the experience alone is worth dividends, and I have met many a backseater who was headed to the front seat. It's doable. As for the E-6, it's a good platform (we have a few here at Cecil Field in Jacksonville, being reworked by Boeing)..but keep at the Hornet if the window's open! Where are you at in the training command?
Flyboy80 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1858 posts, RR: 3 Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4836 times:
Im 15 and I Can't wait to fly... and I will fly! However... I always find my self becoming more and more skeptical to as wether or not the job is still going to have the presteige and pay that it does today. Also, something else to worry about is if there are even going to be those positions, as you have to start worrying when you see people being checked in at airports by machines!!! Any of you pilots have any thoughts on that for me???
Barney Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 762 posts, RR: 14 Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4777 times:
To all those aspiring......it can be done. Got my private @ 19 while throwing bags for Skywest. By 23 I was sitting in the right seat of a Metro for Skywest, Capt by 25. Hired at Southwest @ 27 and made Capt. by 30. Been at WN 12 years now and feel VERY LUCKY. I was talking to my FO on the last trip and we came to a conclusion; the road to an aviation career can be a real challenge, mostly luck and A LOT of perseverance. Want it badly enough, make a few good (lucky) choices and it can happen.
SWAbubba From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 154 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4436 times:
E-6's are actually pretty tough to get because there are only two squadrons. They only need roughly 24 new guys a year, so it's really luck of the draw whether there's even an E-6 in the drop the week you select.
Yeah, Vern was in charge while I was there and Irish showed up to be vice about the time I left. Of course all those folks had lots more stripes than I did, so I didn't get to know them very well.
Seems like most guys who got out went to UAL or WN, we've got at least 20ish ex-TACAMO guys here.
MD88Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1292 posts, RR: 22 Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4354 times:
I was the Flight Officer under Irish when he became the OpsO. And Vern was the CO then. Most of the guys I knew were gone by the time you got there or their names have evaporated from my mind. Peggy Kline used to be the ACO on my crew. Dave Kiehl was a contemporary who wasn't universally respected. You may have run into Mel Parham or Jim Scanlan before they got out. Both Great guys. How about Luke Caron? He was my 3P/2P for awhile. Tom Maser? Al Herr? Greg Hlubek? Al's at SWA.
When I got hired it was AA or DAL for most of us. That was back when you had to be a splittail or minority even to get an interview. A Tacamo buddy of mine said on his app to UAL that he was an American indian. He got an interview immediately. When he got back to VT-31 he had gained a new "indian" callsign. He became "2 dogs F***ing" from the joke with the same punchline.
Tacamo was a great deal back in the day. I imagine it went downhill after the move and with the Looking Glass addition.
25 Aaron747: Boy you guys sure know how to make a young guy's day. All of these words of positive reinforcement and encouragement are doing wonders for my outlook
26 MD88Captain: Aaron. The BEST deal going is AF Reserve or ANG units. Don't just write off a military path. Investigate it thoroughly. If I were in your place at you
27 ScottishLaddie: My aim in life is to become a pilot for BA. I can't thimk of anything better than being a pilot. My mums cousin, who I have never met, is a pilot/FO (
28 DC3CV3407AC727: I am a pilot for a major 727 operator, ChampionAir ,I've come up the interesting way,DC3s,Convair 340s then the 727. Go for your dreams kid,this is st
29 SWAbubba: MD88- Mel, Luke, and Scammer were at -4 when I was there. I saw Mel and Scammer at Norb Tornes COC when he took over VQ-7 (NTSU). Mel's at UPS, Scamme
30 MD88Captain: SWA "Scammer" That just cracks me up. I had forgotten that we called him that, but I'm glad it followed him. I thought that I heard Luke went TAR. Wel