Airbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 10 Reply 10, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2143 times:
Yes they are planning to deploy A332s on routes previously or currently operated by A333s and these A333s operate on regional flights. The A332s they leased will come in much better product offerings in terms of seat comfort than their A333s. Currently those ex-SN A332s have the best "Golden Club" class offering than any other plane in our fleet, yes, even better than our own B772 and B744s.
I too heard about the possibility of the remaining ones, or maybe at least one, being an A330-300. But nothing else, I guess we'll have to see. Last heard was that an ex-Skyservice being returned to ILFC soon or some sort.
But I doubt so, I think they might still go ahead with the initial plan of 8 A332s in the fleet for long hauls and premium routes while A333s onto regionals. They are however rotating the A332s (during their long turnarounds) on domestic flights when B734s were AOG or when there is demand. A333s are utilized on a higher rate now.
Joule From Malaysia, joined Dec 2003, 159 posts, RR: 3 Reply 11, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2128 times:
HB-IQE & HB-IQF are in ZRH for final cabin configuration work. Both were in Dusseldorf for scheduled maintenance and Filton for painting. Both should be delivered to MH by end of this month.
HB-IQE (cn 255) will become 9M-MKU.
HB-IQF (cn 262) will become 9M-MKT (will be delivered first).
MH plans to get a total of 5 A330s by April/May 2004 and are still looking for the remaining 3. Indications are MH will take 2 A330-322s (cn 95 & 143 currently with Skyservice) which will become available in the next 3 months. The type (whether A332 or A333) will depend on the availability of such a/c at a given time.
MH actually wanted 5 A330s back in 2002, and naturally looked for A330-322s due to fleet commonality but couldn't find any available. They eventually got the 3 A330-223s (9M-MKV,MKW,MKX) but had trouble integrating them into the fleet as many parts/spares were different from the A330-322s. Then SARS came along and fleet expansion was halted. But now the A332s are doing well now and fleet expansion resumed.
Airbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 10 Reply 12, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2119 times:
Thanks for the info. I'd be great if you could contact me? My email is in my profile.
Anyways, it is true about the difference. Although they are from the same family of planes, these 2 deriviates has quite a number of different parts. Although nothing major, the engineers had to go through a little differential course and they have a list of what is different. There are certain parts on the A332 that can NOT be replaced with an A333 part.
Joule From Malaysia, joined Dec 2003, 159 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2034 times:
Are they pushing the A332's range nonstop to IST?
Distance between KUL and IST is about 8300 km (4500 nm) whereas the range for the A332 is about 12300 km (6650 nm) so it's really no problem.
Even the A333 has the range (10400 km/5600 nm) to do KUL-IST nonstop.
Airbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 10 Reply 16, posted (9 years 11 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1978 times:
MH's A333s have 212t MTOW and I believe the latest long range ones (-343X) have 217t of MTOW. 217t versions have max range of 5600nm and at one point MH's planes did have that range with extra fuel tanks but it hasn't really lived up its range performance so I've been told those extra tanks have been taken off and range is somewhere around 8000km now.
Yes the MGTOW A333X does indeed have range of 10400km but AFAIK MH's exmaples aren't these anymore (maybe a few still are). Even with 10400km maybe depending on wind and if full cargo load, it might have to be slightly restricted. But most of the time it should be ok.
10 years aren't that old for planes and our A333s are in perfect condition although I have to say the interior would be better off revamped. Mx wise they are very well maintained. No major problems watsoever, high dispatch rate. SVC, in fact the initial plan (not sure if it has changed) was to replace all A333's routes with A332s and the A333s would be used for regional expansion.
A332 can do IST without any problem fully loaded year round.
BA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11150 posts, RR: 60 Reply 20, posted (9 years 11 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1828 times:
Thanks for the info, so they are increasing frequency.
I heard a while back that the Beirut route by return to being non-stop from KUL and continue to SYD in a code-share agreement with MEA like they had before 9/11 (after 9/11, MH discontinued BEY until April).
Hopefully one day.
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Ryanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4706 posts, RR: 26 Reply 21, posted (9 years 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1744 times:
The MH A330 is indeed a beautiful aircraft, regardless of the -200 or -300. However, the latter's cabin is very very old and outdated already. Therefore, with the introduction of the -200s brings a breath of fresh air in terms of interior fittings for the A330s.
Thank God they got rid of the First Class cabin because they were such a joke. But the numberings on the ceiling of the A330-300 is confusing because they didn't shift them to accomodate the bigger Golden Club cabin. Hence, Row 1-2 is actually the first 3 rows of the new cabin (something to that effect). So I just counted the rows of seats instead of referring to the numberings on the ceiling because they just don't tally!
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Joule From Malaysia, joined Dec 2003, 159 posts, RR: 3 Reply 22, posted (9 years 11 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1657 times:
The seat covers on the A333s are as old as the planes themselves so they've become dull and faded. I heard MH is going to change the seat covers (like the ones on the 744s, 772s and recently revamped 734s) starting around middle of this year. But there won't be PTVs though.
The seat covers on the A332s are dark blue in color (since the planes are ex-Sabena and Swiss) so they don't look old (yet) compared to the A333s.