It seems quite surprising that none of these destinations are served by United Airlines. Does anyone know the reason why?
Many of these airlines offer only one flight per week to these destinations, and most of these flights operate as part of an air/hotel tour package (Northwest World Vacations, America West Vacations, etc). But still, it is strange not to see United ....wouldn't people travel on a United Vacations package to Mexico?
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As739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6374 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5244 times:
Its was under a different name that they served these cities, it was called Mexicana! We know where that is going. Now it will be USAirways if they survive. If I am correct, I think UA will be starting IAD-CUN soon. Anyone here from UAL able to help?
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Iflyatldl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5235 times:
I know UA used to serve CUN and they even flew DC-8's down there, but that's been MANY years ago. I have a cousin (by marrige) who flies for UA and he used fly that route.
I'm pretty sure that since MX is a member of Star, perhaps they probably codeshare on the Mexican Routes.
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ScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5216 times:
That is correct for UA was serve nonstop from IAD to CUN flight and which one is quite doing very well with the passengers. Yes, this is perfect way to see with more city in Mexico and I know DL was some city is flew in, too.
Ramprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1622 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5189 times:
UA served CUN back in the 80's and early 90's. They just restarted it back up. They flew LAX-SJD also for a little bit. I guess the routes didn't make money for them. Its hard to compete with AS out of LAX to Mexico I guess.
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 8102 posts, RR: 41
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5118 times:
In my opinion (I may be wrong), UA did not mind not flying to cities like ACA, CUN, PVR, etc. because MX was its codeshare partner. Now that MX is no longer a partner of UA, UA might want to consider starting flights to some coastal destinations in Mexico. At the moment, UA lags well behind the other major airlines from the U.S. in terms of destinations in Mexico (and also behind some smaller airlines and LCC's).
In addition, I also guess that UA was counting on USAirways to help it serve some destinations in Mexico (they already do CUN and COZ from CLT and, possibly, from PHI, I am not sure). I don't know if USAirways is still bound to become a member of Star Alliance now that it is in a dire situation (I don't even know if they will survive), and my guess is that if USAirways doesn't join Star, UA will have to make a decision to fly to Mexican beaches or not soon.
In then end, it seems to me it will all boil down to whether doing that is profitable or not. These cities are evidently leisure destinations and what does it for leisure travelers is not frequent flyer programs, brand recognition (service differentiation) or any of the things that matter to business travelers. What does it for them is low fares, so it remains to be seen whether UA will want to take the risk of competing with majors and LCC's in a market where margins are low.
A question just to satisfy my curiosity: which Star Alliance airlines have flights to one or more Mexican beach cities? I guess AC might have a couple and perhaps RG might have a flight to CUN. Anybody know?
Bicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5038 times:
I'd like to see more United flights out of Denver and Los Angeles to Mexico. Los Cabos, Puerto Vallarta, some of the other resorts. Of course, most of this is leisure flying and I wonder if United can make money...fewer business flyers and not much cargo in the belly. How does AA do it? Let's hope Star finds another member to cover Mexico unless UA and US are willing to make a major commitment.
FA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 month 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4976 times:
Part of the business plan of TED is to enable UA to enter leisure markets such as more Mexican destinations and Carribean flying. I've heard from a few sources at SFO and World Headquarters to expect lots of new "sunshine flying" with TED over the next couple of years. It made no business sense for Mainline with high costs to fly to a low yeild destination, but with TED's cheap rate it's economically viable.
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SprxflySWA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 597 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 month 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4947 times:
UA also served Cozumel as well as Merida at the same time.
From July 2,1981 timetable: Merida-CUN-JFK dep 2:05p arr 8:50p Th only
Merida-ORD dep 2:25p arr 6:40p Mo only
Not much service, but Merida wasn't much of a touristy place as CZM or CUN.
LatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1279 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (12 years 1 month 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4723 times:
speaking of Caracas (CCS)... UA used to have a Flight Attendant Base there to handle this flying.
UA never had a CCS flight attendant base, though they did have a substantial amount of employees for only a daily flight. UA did have a FA base in Santiago, Chile (SCL) that flew SCL-MIA and SCL-LIM-MIA.