Also what do people think the future for airlines in the balkans. Croatia Airlines seems to be doing well, Adria doesn't seem to do much, Air Bosna gone, Montenegro Airlines is tiny, Balkan Air is new and Tarom is all over the place. Maybe Jat will become dominant player??
Leskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 80 Reply 2, posted (6 years 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2280 times:
Concerning the livery - this is one of the few times that I've actually found the previous livery better than the one replacing it... what were they thinking??? Don't we already have enough of those white, white and white liveries with a little bit of color in there???
About JAT becoming a dominant player - not really sure about that, but the customers that I had booked on JAT didn't really come back and make comments about how brilliant the flight was... it was more along the lines of "I was glad when we landed"...
But, in principle, I think they do have a chance of being one of the dominant players in the Balkans - but I guess that it'll take at least until the rest of the world doesn't associate the Balkans with the war there any more...
Boeing777/747 From Belgium, joined Dec 2001, 643 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (6 years 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2247 times:
I sometimes wondering what is going on in the heads of airlines' decission makers nowadays. First Cyprus Airways, than Ethiopian, JAL and NWA, recently Luxair and TED. Like JAT these are neither true improvements. They make a fool of themselves, of their airlines and above all of their passengers. This new JAT for example has nothing to do with "home carrier" branding. How should you feel as a Serb boarding this livery. Would you be proud to fly your national carrier?? Is an inexpensive aircraft paint design more important than image? Image is an important part of a successful marketingmix. Ofcourse airlines suffer heavy competitions today but that doesn't mean that a paint design has to look cheap.
VG Airlines, Australian Airlines, Gulf Air, (new)PIA, Qatar Airways, SAS, Sun Country and Continental Airlines were/are one of the finest liveries over the recent years. Chapeau for these airline identities.
Md11lover From Switzerland, joined Oct 2003, 444 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (6 years 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2231 times:
I also think the new JAT colors are terrible. The older tiled one is much better and looks more elegant.
Dont know much about airlines in the Balkans, as far as their endeavors, and financial situation, but one thing is for sure, the Balkans, especially Croatia, are beautiful and they attract a lot of tourists, especially in the summer time. I flew Croatia Airlines from Zagreb to Dubrovnik on its 732, and well, i wasnt particularly impressed since the flight is quite short but i sure did have a great time in the Adriatic Coast.
AirOrange From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (6 years 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2221 times:
I still cannot believe this has happened. Btw JAT is not the only one in the world which messed up its identity. I agree with Boeing777/747, this JAT design has nothing to do with "home carrier" branding. I'm thinking to move to the Moon...
AirOrange From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (6 years 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2176 times:
Okay Boeing 777/747, Avianca is neither a very good improvement. You'd better send all those airlines to me. Here is my airline design portfolio for you:
Has a clean, modern look (whether we like it or not, "Eurowhite" is in vogue) with just enough color to liven it. And the JAT billboard title makes the aircraft instantly recognizable.
My best guess is that JAT will continue in its tradition of success on all fronts. Since ZAG, LJU, SPU and DBV are no longer in the picture as focus cities/hubs for JAT following the breakup of the Yugoslav Federation, it seems highly unlikely their fleet will ever reach the size of the pre-1990 JAT.
Boeing777/747 From Belgium, joined Dec 2001, 643 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (6 years 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2148 times:
Wow, impressive. Pitty that Luxair did not select one of you designs. Because what they have now is an uncontroled and weak "Eurowhite 13 in a dozen have seen before cheapo" livery.
AirOrange From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (6 years 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2129 times:
No comments Boeing777/747, these are your words. Keep it to the subject: JAT. I'm off line now, researching what airlines move to make such strange decissions.
AlekToronto From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 328 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (6 years 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2046 times:
I personally think that this new livery makes JAT look like a Low cost Carrier. Maybe that was what they were trying to achieve? this could be in order to get business away from its neighbouring airlines i.e. CSA Malev LOT Tarom, etc...I don't think JAT will ever be as large as it was in the 80's, early 90's with DC-10's flying all over the world.
MIAMIx707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (6 years 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2017 times:
The current JAT livery is one of the few eurowhite designs I liked. Good, triumphant logo on tail and bold JAT letters.
These new funny clown dots belong in the circus. Hate the font even more
Air Orange, the only design I like of those is the VG.. which would almost be a classic had the airline survived longer. Mama air, crystal airways, Air holland and others are horrible (these are my words) no hard feelings Airlines like Avianca, etc, should let real artists and designers from their own countries do that job of coming up with unique, classic liveries as it was once done.
too many blue tails with white/grey fuselages already, for a visually inclined aviation enthusiast like myself its a visual desaster.
Most latin american airlines today look like crap because they've given the airline restyling to foreign or modernistic/simplistic design firms with no creativity. Airline recognition isn't the same as home decoration
CB777 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1195 posts, RR: 5 Reply 20, posted (6 years 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1996 times:
I don't know what JAT was thinking, this has to be one of the ungliest color schemes. My first flight was when I was 8 years back in 1987 and it was on JAT from JFK-ZAG. They were a good airline in the 80's and I don't see them being as good as they were before. I think this is the largest JAT will be, I don't see them being any larger. But they do need a another color scheme quick!!
But seriously, I am just glad to see some progress. The poor airline has suffered so much. Ah for the days when they flew to YYZ THREE TIMES A WEEK and had MD-11s on order. Good luck with the routes, JAT - sve najbolje!
Backfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (6 years 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1867 times:
I think a kid must have designed them
You're probably right - the livery was the result of a competition launched by JAT a few months back. The results were so bad that the judges actually said that none of the shortlisted finalists was good enough - so they went for a cobbled-together mixture which combined two of the entries.
And 'presto'...there's the result.
I actually came up with a couple of ideas myself, but never got around to sending them in. I wish I had now.
AlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 20 Reply 24, posted (6 years 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1841 times:
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i hate the new livery. The New livery is going to look horrible on a DC-10 or a 777 if they ever get around to painting it.
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25 Flyboy_se: JAT isnt trying to be a homelandcarrier.After the end of country of Yugoslavia,JAT is focusing on becoming a international carrier.Thats the main reas
26 Sabena332: JAT's new livery is the worst I've seen lately, simply disgusting, it looks like a kindergarden group designed it! Sadly they also belong now into the
27 FutureFO: OK the new colors are nice but are they going to paint all the aircraft in the fleet or only about 1/3 of them as with the other livery. Sean from MCO
28 MIAMIx707: yes the other day the name of Yugoslavia was no more, so why still name it JAT airways.. which stand for Jugoslovenski (Yugoslavian) aero transport?
29 La Carlota: I honestly think they are UGLY. Plus the fact that the country is not called Yugoslavia anymore, but Serbia & Montenegro!!! What are they going to do
30 Sabena332: By the way, do the crew uniforms change as well? A clownsuit for the cabin crews would fit perfect with that livery. Patrick
31 Royal330: The old one was much better and I didn't like the old one. The new one looks like a livery of a low cost carrier.
32 TriStar500: I could have pulled a better design out of my rear end, and I had a 4 (equivalent to a D in the American system) as a grade in my high school art cour
33 Flyboy_se: MIAMIx707 and LaCarlota: Originally JAT was standing for Jugoslovenski Aero Transport.The airline decided to remove the meaning of JAT but kept the n
34 MIAMIx707: Flyboy se: CSA starts with a C so it's good enough for Czech Airlines, Jat Airways still brings to mind the "Jugoslovenksi" Still, unfitting name and
35 JU101: Flyboy_se, I have to agree with you for most of what you said. It was evident before the competition began, that JAT was in search of a new identity t
36 Flyboy_se: JU101: am disapointed with the new identity aswell.Surprised that the people at Jat couldent come up with something more original.I just hope that the
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