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Pacific Etops Issue Resolved.  
User currently offlineV2fix From New Zealand, joined Mar 2003, 368 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4519 times:

The ETOPS operations in the Pacific had been under threat, with the potential of longer sectors for ETOPS, becasue of the closure of Midway.

A new emergency site has been itentified.

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Five regional airlines serving the United States from the Pacific have agreed to pay the government of Kiribati $US100,000 ($147,000) for the upgrade of Cassidy Airport on Christmas Island.

The airlines are Air Pacific, Air New Zealand, Qantas, Polynesian Airlines and Aloha Airlines.

Air Pacific's chief executive officer, John Campbell, has confirmed the one-off payment is for this year only.

He says the airlines will contribute annually for the ongoing availability of Cassidy as an alternate extended range twin engine operations emergency stop.

Cassidy is to replace Johnston Atoll shut down by US authorities in December last year.

Campbell says the Kiribati government will pay $US200,000 ($294,000) for renovations.

The director of civil aviation for Kiribati, Jack Snow, says the airport is likely to be operational by the end of the month.
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Full story at http://onenews.nzoom.com/onenews_detail/0,1227,248437-1-453,00.html


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User currently offlineUshermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2965 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4451 times:

Does anybody know how much has to be done to make the airport set for a 777 or such like to land there?
I don't know anything about the airport but $300000 don't seem to be a lot of money...



Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offlineV2fix From New Zealand, joined Mar 2003, 368 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4422 times:

Map of Chritmas Island location can be found here http://www.countryreports.org/images1/Kiribati.gif




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User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3657 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4406 times:
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Don't you mean Johnston? Midway is still open, but barely, running on emergency appropriations. Just last week a CO 777 made an emergency landing on Midway.

User currently offlineMotorhussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3199 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4326 times:

Yep, definite mistake here.

Midway is not a ETOPS diversion for flights SW to/from NE across the Pacific, it's a diversion from the Orient and Micronesia to Hawaii and Mainland.

Yep, just confirmed it. It's Johnston alright, thirteen hundred odd km's SW of Hawaii. Midway's NW of Hawaii, about a third of the way from HNL to NRT. That's a Hell of an ETOPS diversion for an HNL bound flight from APW!

In jest
MH




come visit the south pacific
User currently offlineV2fix From New Zealand, joined Mar 2003, 368 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4281 times:

Doh!

Yup, original most should have said Johnston Atol, not Midway.

Apologies. Going away to self-flagellate ....



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User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6822 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4129 times:

Obvious question: what if some other airline needs to use Christmas? Will they have to pay a large sum to make up for the "free ride" they got until then? Will they figure heck, it's only 400 nm farther to Hilo, let's go there instead?

Actually, Christmas doesn't look all that helpful, except as a backup if Tahiti or Hilo have bad weather. Assuming the flight is 180-min ETOPS, that is.


User currently offlineAerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2707 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4003 times:

It will be hugely helpful to airlines like Qantas, United and Air New Zealand for their SW Pacific - US flights. Hence their agreement to pay for Christmas Island.

Could this be a precursor to these airlines purchasing 777/7E7s or operating A330s across the Pacific?


User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4480 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3977 times:

Very interesting for sure. I'm still hoping that Midway will remain open, after all its perfectly located for emergency landings on northern pacific flights, and with Wake Island now closed, all that's left is Bucholz Airfield on Kwajalein, and that airport is already accepting more ops right now than was expected.

To be honest though instead of Christmas Island, I had expected Tarawa...the capital of Kiribati.


User currently offlineJaseWGTN From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3871 times:

I don't think they choose Tarawa, as it's 1,800 nautical miles to the east of Christmas Island

User currently offlineMotorhussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3199 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3850 times:

I think it's great for the state of Kiribati that they can get some privately owned, publicly owned and foreign government owned companies to pay for the upgrade of their Av. infrastructure.

I hope they can do the same for Tarawa as it's a good diversion for flights from HNL to SYD, MEL and AKL - so good for NZ, QF and AC!

This gives the country more funds to spend attempting to police its exclusive economic (marine) zone - the largest tuna fishery on the planet and it's being plundered knowingly by many countries.



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User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6822 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3691 times:

"I don't think they choose Tarawa, as it's 1,800 nautical miles to the east of Christmas Island"

Try that again.

Wake isn't closed permanently, is it?


User currently offlineAnxebla From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3532 times:

Oks...this is very interesting  Wink/being sarcastic But the Pacific Ocean is very very large.For the Pacific I prefer 3/4 engines...

User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3657 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3444 times:
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Wake is only temporarily closed. Work is currently underway on runway repairs and Wake will reopen when the repairs are done.

User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6822 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3342 times:

"It [Christmas Island] will be hugely helpful to airlines like Qantas, United and Air New Zealand for their SW Pacific - US flights."

As long as Apia/Faleolo, Tahiti, and the Hawaiian airports are available, the "great circles" from Sydney and Auckland to California and Hawaii are never more than 1200 nm from an airport (though SYD-HNL comes close). That's without considering Johnston or Christmas. But apparently those airports do help somehow, and it would be nice to know how.


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