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Swiss-Banned Jetliner Is Grounded At Beirut  
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3554 times:

Swiss-Banned Jetliner is Grounded at Beirut Airport

A passenger plane banned from Swiss airspace for safety reasons is grounded at Beirut airport after authorities found it to be unfit to fly, Lebanese civil aviation officials said Thursday.
The private JR Executive, a Lebanese-U.S. company, is among several airlines whose planes are banned from Swiss airspace. The Swiss government, under pressure from travel companies and consumers, released on Wednesday a partial list of the banned airlines that includes the Egyptian carrier Flash, whose airliner crashed into the Red Sea earlier this month, and four other airlines.

The Swiss Federal Office for Civil Aviation refused to release other names on the full list of 21 banned aircraft on grounds that it is confidential under a Europe-wide aircraft inspection program.

Lebanese aviation officials told The Associated Press that the JR Executive Boeing 720 has been grounded at Beirut International Airport since Sept. 12.

The decision was taken according to a directive issued by the Directorate General of Civil Aviation after inspection showed the jet to have 31 defects, the aviation officials said.

Officials at JR were not immediately available for comment.

The airliner is owned by a former Lebanese pilot and is registered in the United States, the aviation officials said. The company owns two other Boeing jets and several other small training jets.

Airport officials said another Boeing 720 owned by the company was currently not functional, and that a Boeing 727 has been grounded since Jan. 1 pending repairs.

Swiss consumer groups and travel companies have been insisting they had a right to know the names of airlines whose planes had been banned for safety reasons. The pressure grew after the British government last week published a list of airlines that are banned from its airspace.

The Swiss had already disclosed that planes of Egyptian carrier Flash Airlines had been banned from Switzerland for more than a year before one of them crashed after takeoff from the resort of Sharm el-Sheik on Jan. 3, killing all 148 people on board _ most of them French tourists.(AP- By Zeina Karam)


Beirut, Updated 15 Jan 04, 13:37



Source: http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/Newsdesk.nsf/Story/0838B09C76C53CB6C2256E1C003EDDC1?OpenDocument&PRINT

The Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) is Lebanon's equivalent to the US' Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). It sets the standards and regulations of civil aviation in Lebanon.

Here is the plane:

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Photo © Peter Unmuth - VAP



Here is a shot of it sitting in Beirut International Airport:
http://www.myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=00028670

Regards


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
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User currently offlineClipperNo1 From Germany, joined May 1999, 672 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3431 times:

Thanks for the Info BA! I was wondering about that plane, when I saw in the swiss list. Nice to see such an old aircraft flying...but if it isn't safe and well maintained, it shouldn't be flying. Period.
Is there a discussion about airline safety (like now in France) going around in the Lebanon as well, after the UTA crash?



"I really don't know one plane from the other. To me they are just marginal costs with wings."� Alfred Kahn, 1977
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3416 times:

Is there a discussion about airline safety (like now in France) going around in the Lebanon as well, after the UTA crash?

That's all they are talking about now I'm afraid. Since the accident, the Lebanese government has had officials and experts in Benin and they are investigating the crash alongside with French officials.

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineEZYcrew From Spain, joined Oct 2001, 460 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3412 times:

I didn't know Britain realeased such a list. Where can we find it? What are the airlines banned from UK airspace?

User currently offlineNdebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2901 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3246 times:

airevents.de still offers a sightseeing-flight on this B720 (N720JR):

http://www.airevents.de/boeing_720.htm


User currently offlineKay From France, joined Mar 2002, 1884 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3153 times:

I recently visited this plane's cockpit on the ground. It stopped flying almost a year ago primarily because of noise restrictions in some European destinations. It's offered for sale since the hush-kitted 727-100 was purchased to replace it, almost a year ago, but it is well know that it isn't economical to fly.

User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3133 times:

airevents.de still offers a sightseeing-flight on this B720 (N720JR)

Isn't Airevents the agency which offers also an Alps sightseeing flight at night?  Laugh out loud

Patrick


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2908 times:

BA; no airlines is banned by the Swiss FCCA. They ban aircraft but not carriers. Carriers can operate into Switzerland with any other aircraft than the banned one anytime. THIS has been made clear by the spokesperson of the Swiss FCAA on TV sufficiently clear.

User currently offlineMEA310 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2002, 660 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2883 times:

Read about it in the newspaper just a while ago,but wasn't that detailed,thanks for the info.

MEA310



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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2776 times:

ME AVN FAN,

What are you talking about? I never said anything, I just posted the article....



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2718 times:

Here are two photos a good friend of mine sent me of the JR Boeing 720 sitting at Beirut at night:




Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlinePatroni From Luxembourg, joined Aug 1999, 1403 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2654 times:

Interesting info...
so which one is grounded now? N720JR or the P4-registered bird?
I visited 720JR last year...
Cheers,
Tom


User currently offlineKay From France, joined Mar 2002, 1884 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2592 times:

BA,

just wanted to point out that, in the first post, the blue 720 pictured and the link to a picture are different aircraft. The one in the link is the same pictured in the night shots above. That one isn't airworthy. Anywhere.

kay


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2565 times:

Kay,

Thanks for the info. Any idea what they are going to do with it?

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2500 times:

BA; in that article is the term "list of banned airlines" and THAT is simply wrong. It is "banned aircraft", and that is a difference. It does not matter whether YOU said it or the writer of the article, it still is wrong.

User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2505 times:

ME AVN FAN,

Your reply was directed towards me. You were telling me that I was wrong.

Whatever..it's not worth arguing over.



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineKay From France, joined Mar 2002, 1884 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2380 times:

BA,

Last time I checked, they were working on it to make it airworthy, probably to sell it too.

kay


User currently offlineME AVN FAN From Switzerland, joined May 2002, 13920 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2314 times:

The point is NOT WHO may have been wrong. The point is that an airline who gets/got its airplane banned by the Swiss FCAA still can operate into Switzerland with any OTHER airplane at any time. And that can be a VITALLY important aspect of the matter. While the same company in case of the U.K. is blocked entirely and with all airplanes of its fleet ! THIS aspect should not and never be ignored !

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