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What Will Happen To NW's DC9's  
User currently offlineGreaser From Bahamas, joined Jan 2004, 1101 posts, RR: 4
Posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5906 times:

We all know that the DC9's will probably be the longest serving aircraft EVER for a single airline. But what we may not know is what it will be replaced if, if replaced at all. AA is dismissing its F100, UA is dismissing its 762s. So what exactly will happen to the DC9's?
My predictions:
DC9 -31/2 will be replaced by A318s (NW could go domestic and regionally Airbus), Embraer 190s???, hopefully 717's.
DC9-50/1 will be replaced by A319s, A320s.(Not with Boeing a/c coz of NW's commitment to its present A319,A320 fleet)

These predictions are meant for this decade!! But we'll probably not be surprised to see DC-9's still in operation in 2010
Long Live the DC-9


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User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5816 times:

I guess NWA's DC-9s will still fly when A320s, A319s, B757s and B747s are long gone...  Wink/being sarcastic


NWA, keep the 9ers or take the 717s...but please no A318s nor terrible CRJ900 nor jungle jets!!!  Angry


Regards
Udo


User currently offlineRegis From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5785 times:

I am sort of new on A.net, but I have the impression that this topic has been discussed at least 150 times already.

User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5751 times:

I am just a little less green here at a.net, but it hasn't been discussed in at least 3 hours.



User currently offlineDjon1114 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5740 times:

151 now i recon

i am also new on a net


User currently offlineNWA330Tony From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5733 times:

(Regis)
I am sort of new on A.net, but I have the impression that this topic has been discussed at least 150 times already.


you catch on quick you beat me to it! my thoughts exact!! I love NW but comeon give the DC9s a break already. NWA has publically announced the DC9's expectance plenty of times, goto thier site read through the press releases. If you still have questions after the mass reading ask them via thier site might take a bit but rest assured they will answer, Ive asked plenty they always help! But please leave it off A.net we are all tired of this topic here!!!



User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5708 times:

**I am sort of new on A.net, but I have the impression that this topic has been discussed at least 150 times already.**

Yeah its been probably discussed 150 times just during the time you been here. This topic is discussed nearly daily. We could be on the subject on Northwest adding a new route or something and the DC-9 replacement question comes up.


User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5681 times:

When will NWA finally start installing PTVs in their DC-9s???  Confused

User currently offlineFilterboy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5662 times:

NNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Not another NW DC9 Thread
I know I'm new to posting here but have been looking at this site for a couple of years don't do the NW DC9 thread

Greaser use the search function it should answer your question.


User currently offlineJblake1 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5652 times:

I was the previous green user to pose the question. I think asking it is an airliners.net rite of passage. The problem is that the question is like asking "How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? The world may never know!"  Big grin

User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5639 times:

Jblake1!

BRAVO! BRAVO!!!!


User currently offlineUal727222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5647 times:

It will be another 10 years before NWA looks at retiring its 9s. It spent millions in the mid-90s to refurbish the fleet rather than buy new planes. I hope that NWA will not go even more Airbus with the A318. But, it all depends on when the airline begins a gradual retirement of the fleet, whether it wants to use a similar type (717), either 200 or a possible extended version, or if it intends to expand the A320. The A320 was a 727 replacement, I think, so the carrier will likely look to another smaller type to replace its 9s. It all depends on what is available in the future. Boeing may cut the 717, Airbus may cut the A318- if sales do not improve, so whatever is available will determine their replacement. In the meantime, enjoy flying on those old, yet sturdy vintage jets. Keep in mind that Northwest emphatically rejects such marketing cliches as "new car smell," "state of the art." They still fly 747-200s which date back to the early 70s and many are used, old DC-10-30s that it bought from Swissair when SA switched to the MD-11, etc. so do not expect NWA to break its neck rushing to buy new planes. They love to get every last bit of flight out of every plane, and they base their decision to buy/not buy on many factors, the least of which is age. I started flying in '67, and many of its 9s were cruising the skies back then. Their philosophy is unique, but also understand that NWA is not teeter-tottering on a mountain of debt, to the extent of other carriers. CO has a fleet of new, new planes, a key marketing strategy, but CO is highly indebted.

User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5574 times:

Us oldtimers here know the topic has been beaten to death, but to the newest members here...it's still a fresh subject. IMO, the DC-9 will be replaced what NW already has...the Airbus 319/320. I can't see NW adding another airframe type to replace the -9. The airline industry as a whole is still struggling just to do business one more day. I can't understand why should any carrier be shopping for new airplanes if they can't pay for them. This includes Northwest. The DC-9 fleet is paid for, well maintained & still dependable. Just my two cents worth. Regards.


"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." --Ben Franklin
User currently offlineJblake1 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5482 times:

Thank you Dtwclipper! For my 2 cents, I would love it if they would pick up the 717; it's such a sexy looking airplane. I know that is not the way to make a purchase decision, but it's reason enough for me. I flew on a Hawaiian 717 to Hilo and it was really comfortable. (Sorry to the flight attendant who had to clean my spilled coffee off the seat next to me)

User currently offlineNudelhirsch From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5420 times:

Udo, sorry to correct You, but question is totally irrelevant! It's Lufthansa's PTV that are to be discussed here at a.net... Laugh out loud

I was about to post this, but You were faster...

But then, as we're already talking about it, when will Lufthansa install PTV in the new 346? And which bird will be next then?



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User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5391 times:

Some nice beer cans.  Big thumbs up

Cheers!



Crye me a river
User currently offlineNwcoflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 692 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5353 times:

NW will retire the last DC-9-10s this year.

NW will not look into replacing these a/c until the end of this decade.

NW DC-9s are economical, and it would be pointless to replace them at this point. The only people who know that they are as old as they are airline junkies. And most of us DONT care about the age.

Discounting the DC-9, NW has the youngest domestic fleet after CO of the majors.




The New American is arriving.
User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5285 times:

You know when you get an annoying song stuck in your head? Nevermind. Big grin

Seriously. . .the NWA DC-9 threads are common. . .but most of us always seem to read them every time they come up. I know I do! I read them because I know there will be some wise cracks, some other humor, and always some pride concerning these ole' gals. . .especially from the NWA fans and employees.

And to all the newer A.net users: don't worry. . .we all learn the funtions of the site over time. . .no big deal.



Ding! You are now free to keep supporting Frontier.
User currently offlineAtcboy73 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1100 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5262 times:

DIA is right. I always find myself reading this type of thread regarding the NW DC-9s.

I don't want anyone to take offence to this but one thing is for sure.

With every post asking when NW will retire these great planes we come closer to the day the day NW will retire them.  Smile

And who knows, the 717 may not be in production when that time comes around. That is a sad thought isn't it.


User currently offlineZak From Greenland, joined Sep 2003, 1993 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5229 times:

hhaha what a topic. whats next? tailstrikes? airbus sux? boeing sux? the star alliance order?

some things just NEVER get old



10=2
User currently offlineStartvalve From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5181 times:

What an original topic. If someone did a search on NW DC-9s I am POSITIVE they would not find a single thread saying anything about them. Can we space out these identical topics from 2-3 a week to maybe 1 a month?

User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5106 times:

Hey Nudelhirsch, you are correct! I mixed something up. Of course I wanted to ask about PTVs in LH's A346.

Hm, I think LH will finally install PTVs in their A346 by summer 2012. By that time Richard Branson will have taken majority of Lufthansa and therefore intends to start a service offensive. Right on time the planes will then arrive for their second D-check and get the new interior.
In the same turn LH's B747-400 will then be retired and passed onwards to NWA as a DC-9 replacement.  Nuts

And now you want to know where I got the info from, right?  Laugh out loud


Regards
Udo


User currently offlineUal727222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5097 times:

Whether it is an old, worn out topic or not, NWA's DC-9s inspire passion for the readers and posters of this forum. You either like them or hate them, I guess, and I am sure for those of you who have flown on them, you have experienced the good and the bad. Personally, I think NWA's strategy is worth considering, and I say this as a UA pilot. Now, I have not examined NWA's financial statements, but I know from observation, that the carrier's retirements have been gradual, and that NWA was not in the same predicament of having to re-negotiate leases and terms on its aircraft or with the need of parking dozens of them in the deserts following 9/11. The DC-10-40 and 727 retirements were planned and initiated well in advance of 9/11 and were concluded almost a year after 9/11. NWA learned from its financial mishaps during the mid 90s and has been prudent and responsible in their fleet upgrades. As far as those DC-9s are concerned, NWA has never in my knowledge had a fatal incident with the aircraft, excepting NW 255 (might have been an MD-80) when the pilots forgot to configure the flaps, and it certainly has had no such issues since then. Those old birds are good for the skies, and speculations about replacements are moot until the airline decides to retire the bird- which won't be for another 10 years, I am sure.

User currently offlineNudelhirsch From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 19
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5045 times:

Better stock up the guards at Mojave, before NW pilots go there to "get" some more DC9s...

Udo, I have an information, stating, that Lufthansa will have a 346 configured in a one-class seating, fitting 850 pax into coach...heard about that too?

And they will, as their original IFE, have one first class seat in the cabin, and every pax may sit there for 10 seconds...

And if You are a FF and ahve more than 500,000 miles with LH, You may upgrade to a complete minute sitting in this throne...

That's the point when SRB takes over and brings a LH380 with only first class seats, a pool, tennis court, and a real river in the upper deck where You can make a river cruise...


Sorry, what was the topic?



Putana da Seatbeltz!
User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4994 times:

Now you totally confused me...didn't we talk about that jetBlue doesn't pay for their aircraft and that Airbus A320 are dangerous because the computer flies the aircraft? Sorry, got lost...  Wink/being sarcastic


Regards
Udo


25 Post contains links and images Tjwgrr : N776NC has probably been in seven different color schemes.... WOW! 1) North Central scheme 2) Republic blue/ teal scheme 3) Republic white/red/gray sc
26 Asmtrd : The 9's rule..... Smoke and noise what more could you ask for
27 Nudelhirsch : Udo, Your concerns are absolutely right! Airbus with it's crazy modern stuff and these WIN98-powered planes...that's teeeerrrrrible... imagine this: T
28 PBIflyguy : did anyone else bang their head against their CRT when they saw this thread?? Lord help us all when they actually DO retire the DC-9's.. what will we
29 N766UA : I am sort of new on A.net, but I have the impression that this topic has been discussed at least 150 times already. GENIOUS!!
30 Post contains images Leskova : PBIflyguy, I was about to, but then I realised that I'm sitting in front of an LCD monitor that would probably react quite badly to that... And, err,
31 4everRC : Ual727222 -- You are correct, NW255 was an MD80, not a DC9. I get such a kick out of the people who sit and complain about the number of posts per wee
32 Jblake1 : Get this.. On my recent trip to home to LAN, I was speaking with the FO of my flight from DTW to LAN and I asked her "What do you think of the new liv
33 Startvalve : When the DC-9s are gone we will move on to asking about the 10s.. then the 742s.. by that point we will then want to know when the scarebusses will st
34 Post contains images Airlinelover : NW DC-9's: Big fuel-to-noise converters.. But great planes anyway NW would be smart to do some deciding, as I cannot see the 717 program lasting 10 ye
35 Post contains images RayChuang : I think it all comes down to this: NW will have to start retiring their DC-9's starting in 2006 because the plane will not comply with ICAO Stage IV s
36 Post contains links and images Maiznblu_757 : TJWGRR, Shame on you. How could you forget these?????????? View Large View MediumPhoto © Frank C. Duarte Jr. View Large View MediumPhoto © J
37 Maiznblu_757 : Chris, I agree... NWA might be able to save the 717 program with an order that will undoubtedly be the biggest order the program would see... But, its
38 Vatveng : Being a newbie to a.net, and since it seems to be a rite of passage as some have claimed, I'll save a new topic and just tack it on to this one: So, d
39 Tjwgrr : "TJWGRR, Shame on you. How could you forget these??????????" ------------------------------------------ Maiznblu 757, Yeah, but the photos I posted we
40 Maiznblu_757 : Right, I didnt read your post that well.. I didnt realize they were all N776NC. Anyhow most NWA DC9-50's began service with NC they still serve some o
41 Duke : I am new to this topic too LOL! Aah, the memories. I'm not very sentimental about DC-9s, but the -10s are so rare and stuff & this just hits home. One
42 Post contains images BR715-A1-30 : May I suggest to the moderators that the next time this topic comes up in the next 6 months, unless a newbie posts it, please delete it. I don't know
43 Post contains images Flyguyclt : The last Airbus will be parked in the desert and retired years down the road. The crew will be brought home in a DC9. Safe Flying
44 BillElliott9 : If you don't like the topic, don't read the thread!
45 SpeedbirdHeavy : What this forum really needs is an FAQ. NWA DC-9s should be question #1. Question #2 should be about DL's livery changes. If we don't get some sort of
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