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New Cathay Routes For 2005  
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12328 posts, RR: 35
Posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6003 times:

Just caught this on PPRUNET . . .

Starting Spring 05
2 x week , HKG -SVO - MAN and HKG- MUC - MAN . A340 a/c.

So, three new routes (MUC, SVO and MAN) for 2005 . . . and possibly more to come. Not sure if it's 2 weekly for each route or one each, but I would think it's probably 2 each, or 4 weekly into MAN.

Very welcome news and hope it works out for them.

Although I haven't seen the schedules, I would imagine the SVO/MAN sector would be a day flight, as it's not really practical to have an overnight HKG-SVO flight.

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User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7330 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5894 times:
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I'd prefer them to be offering non-stop MAN!

David


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5875 times:

... and I'd prefer them to be offering a MUC-only flight... seems we're both only getting half of what we'd like...  Big grin

But it's good to hear that there'll be an alternative to LH from MUC to HKG - any idea what type of A340 will be used?

Regards,
Frank



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User currently offlineUNITED777300 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 131 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5706 times:

I'd assume a 343 because if they wanted to use a 346, they could just use a 777.


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User currently offlineKevin From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5693 times:

Finally Cathay made it to Russia:

The SVO MAN is similar to the flight JAL is offering SVO-FCO as flying to each destination separately would not generate enough pax.


User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1597 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5646 times:

I'd assume a 343 because if they wanted to use a 346, they could just use a 777.

eh??


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5502 times:

A 773A could do both legs is what you mean,United?

User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1834 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5311 times:

Well, CX's 777s are for regional uses now, and those aircrafts are equipped with only a regional business class product.

I will assume the new flights to SVO and MAN and MUC will see Airbus A340-300 featuring the new business class product. I guess CX tends to use the 340s to explore new markets, so CX's choice of equipment comes as no surprise. Spring 05 seems so far away... I really hope CX can restall the MAN flights ASAP.

Carfield


User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2384 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5251 times:

By 2005 EDI will be ready for them! Laugh out loud
How about EDI-LHR-HKG?!


User currently offlineLhr001 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5036 times:

Isn't Cathay also looking at Milan?



LHR001


User currently offlineKlyk1980 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4902 times:

I think Cathay have plenty of room to expand their network. Currently CX is facing very strong competition in Asia, especially on major routes like HKG-NRT/SIN/BKK/TPE etc...

What I think is..Cathay will spot on more long haul flight that Dragonair cannot handle. In order to make the new flight become more profitable, flight with one-stop obviosuly a great start for CX. Extension of the current route is a great idea as well. I have a phantom list...

HKG - YYZ extension to YUL, using A346 instead of A343;
HKG - ORD - BOS (Many overseas student in ORD and BOS area, can operate seasonal flight in summer with a B777?)
HKG - AMS - MAN Resume

Personally I think SVO is not going to work well because currently two airlines are operating. Unless Cathay can continue the flight to Scandinavian from Moscow, otherwise quiet risky to land on SVO.


User currently offlineN754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4855 times:

This is very good news, however I understood this would be a 777 route?

As for the A340's the big rumour is the A346's will go and I know 4 x A343 are going. If the new big order is for 10 x 777 then could it be a 777 later??


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5832 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4849 times:
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I would like to see CX begin service to DFW when the new international terminal opens.

User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4845 times:

CX is expected to order a whole lot of planes soon so they have expansion in mind.

User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6006 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4835 times:

Before 9/11 Cathy talked about a second SFO flight. Any chance that will every happen?
ASSFO



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User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6535 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4769 times:

There are a lot of plans for expansion at the moment, with the lack of crews being the main obstacle.

Our 777s as the are cannot make it to Europe. The 773s would make it with higher thrust ratings, but then you pay much more in overflight charges and when that same 777 does a HKG-TPE flight, it eats into the profits a lot. Configuring two or three 777s to fly to Europe is not cost effective.


User currently offlineRjpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4656 times:

Perhaps order 777NGs? There have been some rumors about that, have you heard anything?

User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6535 posts, RR: 55
Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4603 times:

777NGs? Is that a new term, or something you just thought up?

newspaper reports are that we will order 9 aircraft by by the end of March with Airbus or Boeing competing. Rumours are that it will be either/or, and not both.


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12328 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4532 times:

I think he means 777-300ERs.

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if the order was for the 777-300ER. CX is said to be disappointed with the 777-300ER and if Boeing can include in this deal the buyback of its 777-200s, then maybe a deal could be done.

In addition to the proposed new aircraft, it's still expected that CX will want to buy secondhand aircraft, i.e. BA 747-400s.


User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6535 posts, RR: 55
Reply 19, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4487 times:

The second hand 744s is something seperate - mainly for freighters. I am hoping for 777-300ERs, which the company is very impressed with. Kaitak - where did you hear that CX was disappointed in them? CX likes them but they are pretty expensive. if they do buy them, the fact they have GE's doesn't matter too much, as we would get quite a few - again suggesting a 10 aircraft order making sense.

User currently offlineCX773 From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2001, 365 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4314 times:

I found the post in PPRUNE.ORG, however the post i saw didn't mention HKG-SVO-MAN and HKG-MUC-MAN at all.

MUC will only be one of the freighter destination but nothing has been discussed for the passenger flight.


User currently offlineN754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4229 times:

KaiTak,

Please reply and CONFIRM this is a passenger route or freight route.

Rgds
n754pr


User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12328 posts, RR: 35
Reply 22, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 4060 times:

D'oh!

I meant to say "disappointed in the A340-600s" - sincere apologies! (My mistake, but it should have been evident from the context; why would they be buying aircraft they were disappointed in!)

The new routes will be pax services!

As for DUB, I agree with Ryanair 320, but I think we should get something before the end of this year. EK is said to be looking very closely at Ireland and with the right prodding and lobbying from on high, I think it can happen.


User currently offlineRyanairA320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2003, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3986 times:



I think DUB should be attracting much more new airlines. Aer Rianta the monopoly operators will charge no fees or charges (for three years) to any airline offering a new route out of Dublin Cork or Shannon. Pretty good incentive but I'm shocked it hasn't attracted a lot more carriers.


RyanairA320




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User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6535 posts, RR: 55
Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3863 times:

I have not seen anything official announced. Is this all true or made up:?

25 CX773 : kaitak, where did you get the info from? I can't find it. can you show us? [Edited 2004-01-19 16:36:48]
26 Sushka : Wow SVO that is cool. What plane will it be?
27 Kaitak : CX773, my source was the Professional Pilots rumour network: "Airports/Routes" page. Sushka, it'll be an A340-300.
28 CX773 : Kaitak, thanks for your info, however he didn't mention where the source came from.
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