Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11956 posts, RR: 37 Posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4538 times:
Just caught this on PPRUNET . . .
Starting Spring 05
2 x week , HKG -SVO - MAN and HKG- MUC - MAN . A340 a/c.
So, three new routes (MUC, SVO and MAN) for 2005 . . . and possibly more to come. Not sure if it's 2 weekly for each route or one each, but I would think it's probably 2 each, or 4 weekly into MAN.
Very welcome news and hope it works out for them.
Although I haven't seen the schedules, I would imagine the SVO/MAN sector would be a day flight, as it's not really practical to have an overnight HKG-SVO flight.
UNITED777300 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 131 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4241 times:
I'd assume a 343 because if they wanted to use a 346, they could just use a 777.
Carfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1727 posts, RR: 9 Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3846 times:
Well, CX's 777s are for regional uses now, and those aircrafts are equipped with only a regional business class product.
I will assume the new flights to SVO and MAN and MUC will see Airbus A340-300 featuring the new business class product. I guess CX tends to use the 340s to explore new markets, so CX's choice of equipment comes as no surprise. Spring 05 seems so far away... I really hope CX can restall the MAN flights ASAP.
ScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2383 posts, RR: 9 Reply 8, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3786 times:
By 2005 EDI will be ready for them!
How about EDI-LHR-HKG?!
Klyk1980 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 153 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3437 times:
I think Cathay have plenty of room to expand their network. Currently CX is facing very strong competition in Asia, especially on major routes like HKG-NRT/SIN/BKK/TPE etc...
What I think is..Cathay will spot on more long haul flight that Dragonair cannot handle. In order to make the new flight become more profitable, flight with one-stop obviosuly a great start for CX. Extension of the current route is a great idea as well. I have a phantom list...
HKG - YYZ extension to YUL, using A346 instead of A343;
HKG - ORD - BOS (Many overseas student in ORD and BOS area, can operate seasonal flight in summer with a B777?)
HKG - AMS - MAN Resume
Personally I think SVO is not going to work well because currently two airlines are operating. Unless Cathay can continue the flight to Scandinavian from Moscow, otherwise quiet risky to land on SVO.
N754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3390 times:
This is very good news, however I understood this would be a 777 route?
As for the A340's the big rumour is the A346's will go and I know 4 x A343 are going. If the new big order is for 10 x 777 then could it be a 777 later??
Wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5532 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3384 times:
I would like to see CX begin service to DFW when the new international terminal opens.
As739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5820 posts, RR: 23 Reply 14, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3370 times:
Before 9/11 Cathy talked about a second SFO flight. Any chance that will every happen?
ASSFO
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Cx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6341 posts, RR: 56 Reply 15, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3304 times:
There are a lot of plans for expansion at the moment, with the lack of crews being the main obstacle.
Our 777s as the are cannot make it to Europe. The 773s would make it with higher thrust ratings, but then you pay much more in overflight charges and when that same 777 does a HKG-TPE flight, it eats into the profits a lot. Configuring two or three 777s to fly to Europe is not cost effective.
Cx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6341 posts, RR: 56 Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3138 times:
777NGs? Is that a new term, or something you just thought up?
newspaper reports are that we will order 9 aircraft by by the end of March with Airbus or Boeing competing. Rumours are that it will be either/or, and not both.
Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11956 posts, RR: 37 Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3067 times:
I think he means 777-300ERs.
Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if the order was for the 777-300ER. CX is said to be disappointed with the 777-300ER and if Boeing can include in this deal the buyback of its 777-200s, then maybe a deal could be done.
In addition to the proposed new aircraft, it's still expected that CX will want to buy secondhand aircraft, i.e. BA 747-400s.
Cx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6341 posts, RR: 56 Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3022 times:
The second hand 744s is something seperate - mainly for freighters. I am hoping for 777-300ERs, which the company is very impressed with. Kaitak - where did you hear that CX was disappointed in them? CX likes them but they are pretty expensive. if they do buy them, the fact they have GE's doesn't matter too much, as we would get quite a few - again suggesting a 10 aircraft order making sense.
Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11956 posts, RR: 37 Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 2595 times:
D'oh!
I meant to say "disappointed in the A340-600s" - sincere apologies! (My mistake, but it should have been evident from the context; why would they be buying aircraft they were disappointed in!)
The new routes will be pax services!
As for DUB, I agree with Ryanair 320, but I think we should get something before the end of this year. EK is said to be looking very closely at Ireland and with the right prodding and lobbying from on high, I think it can happen.
RyanairA320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2003, 96 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 2521 times:
I think DUB should be attracting much more new airlines. Aer Rianta the monopoly operators will charge no fees or charges (for three years) to any airline offering a new route out of Dublin Cork or Shannon. Pretty good incentive but I'm shocked it hasn't attracted a lot more carriers.
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