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User currently offlineSpeedbirdheavy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 427 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6700 times:

What airline is using this lengendary building now?


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User currently offlineJaspike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 1 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6632 times:

It's empty I think..


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User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6617 times:

Speedbird-Nobody is using the TWA International Terminal right now, it is closed...the Domestic Terminal is used entirely by JetBlue...plans are for T-5 (the TWAIT) to be reconstructed, as it is currently inadequate for use, and for JetBlue to move in there when it becomes logisically viable...BTW, any word who will move into T-6 (the current B6 terminal) once JetBlue moves into the rebuilt T-5?


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User currently offlineOrdpark From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 574 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6606 times:
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Isn't Jetblue going to move in and renovate (hopefully not destroy) this classic terminal?

User currently offlineEZYcrew From Spain, joined Oct 2001, 460 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6600 times:

I read somewhere that the Port Authority of NY wanted to turn it into a conference center. I hope they preserve this grand JFK landmark!

User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6568 times:

All wrong!  Smile

JetBlue/PA is building a terminal around the TWA terminal. The concourses have already been knocked down, the terminal CAN'T BE DESTROYED because it is a landmark.


User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 2690 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6502 times:

Doesn't AA use the TWA terminal?


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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2997 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6489 times:

The latest (and final, I believe) plan is for JetBlue to use the original T5 for automated check-in kiosks only. Passengers will then pass through the preserved "tubes" into the new terminal, which will form a semicircle around the old building.

As for the current T6, I believe it will be torn down to make room for part of the new JetBlue terminal.



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User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3670 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6480 times:

No...AA does not use the TWA terminal...T-8 and T-9 have been AA buildings for about as long as I remember (and I live 15 minutes from JFK)...TWA's buildings were totally at the opposite end of the airport from American's


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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2997 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6470 times:

Thrust--no, AA uses only T8 and T9 (soon to be one big AA terminal). They had no need for TWA's space in T5, since they had room at T8/9 for what was left of TWA's JFK operation.


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User currently offlineAkjetblue From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 790 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6402 times:

Even most of the crewmembers here at jetBlue know little about whats actually going to be done with T-5. as it is right now, the rummors are that the historic parts of T-5 will remain in tact and be used for electronic check in, and the "tubes" will remain. The concources have NOT been knocked down (iwas there last week) but there is rumor that they will be reconstructed. aparently there are a number of things holding all the plans back. One is handicap access. the other main one is historic preservation society. I'm right along with them in not wanting to destroy such a beautiful building, but the building needs soooo much work - as TWA failed to gain a profit, they had no money to upkeep the building. It's apparently very run down. as for terminal 6, once the operation is moved into terminal 5, terminal 6 will be "redone" whatever that means, and then once completed jetBlue is planning on using both terminal 5 AND 6.
JetBlue seems to want to "please everyone" as much as possible so whatever the outcome, restassured that i'm sure everyone will be happy.

hope this helps
-Philzy



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User currently offlineJeffrey1970 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1336 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6337 times:

I am surprised that no group or organization has stepped up to try and get the old TWA international terminal declared as a historic site.

God bless through Jesus,

Jeff



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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2997 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6293 times:

Jeff, the main part of the TWA terminal (a.k.a. T5) has already been designated a historic landmark for quite some time, and therefore can't be torn down or modified significantly. The only question was whether it would be used as a museum or convention center, or maintained for airline use. Some people felt strongly that it should still be used as an airline terminal, but the facilities are so small and outdated that it is woefully inadequate for a modern operation of any size, especially with today's security requirements. The latest plan (see my earlier post) seems like a good compromise--it will be used by an airline (JetBlue), but as part of a much larger terminal.


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User currently offlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 816 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days ago) and read 6244 times:

i thought the tubes were one of the problems for the renovation of T-5...in regards to handicap access and related issues. whatever the outcome, i'm sure its gonna be an awsome looking terminal!

~B6FA4ever


User currently offlineIMisspiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6293 posts, RR: 33
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6124 times:

For me there is a lot of heartbreak looking at the pictures posted by Jaspike, especially the first. That is the first thing I ever saw at JFK, although the picture would have been loaded with 1964 cars.

I can't explain further though those younger members will understand in 20 or 30 years.




Damn, this website is getting worse daily.
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16865 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6059 times:

Argh!..

This topic comes up way too much, I wish it were permanetly archived someplace where folks can be directed. I've posted these pictures about 20 times!..

Ok here goes..

Back around 2000 the Port Authority developed a plan to replace T-6 with a new terminal and to incorporate the historic T-5 into the design, the design called for the tearing down of T-6 and part (concourses) of T-5. A new terminal would then be built "behind" T-5 and connected via either the "tubes" or something else, the core of T-5 would cease all "airline" functions as it is not designed to handle today's security needs. It would be a airline club area with maybe some shops etc and some E-ticket kiosks, however check-in, baggage claim, security check points, curbside drop off would be at the "new" terminal.

The terminal was "originally" envisioned as a 40 gate terminal which would house B6, TWA, HP and UAL. However the plan was shelved because of UAL's financial problems which led them to pull down alot of JFK service, also TWA's sale to AA.

AA never wanted anything to do with TWA's Terminals..

So all that was left was Jetblue, and the Port Authority was not about to invest hundreds of Millions into a new terminal for a "start-up".

However 4 years later with Jetblue's success established the Port Authority has "re-visited" the earlier plan, this time reducing the size to 23 gates. The Port Authority has agreed to help B6 build the new terminal, however Jetblue needs to establish some private financing for their share which they are working on.

Here's some renderings..







http://community.webshots.com/photo/95653019/95653104uBlCsg



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User currently offlineSpeedbirdHeavy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5988 times:

I've been around this forum for months and I haven't seen this topic before.

Hey, at least I didn't ask about the NWA DC-9s......

There really should be an FAQ for this forum.



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User currently offlineFlyguyclt From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 537 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5877 times:

Anybody have the ability to change the first pic? I think it would be hysterical if you could change the airplane at the terminal to an NWA DC9 just as joke.

Safe Flying  Smile



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User currently offlineFflood From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5754 times:

I sure hope they save this building, my Dad and his brother helped to put it up. It's too beautiful to demolish.


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User currently offlineIMisspiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6293 posts, RR: 33
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5628 times:

STT757.

Though the terminal could in no way support the artists renderings as shown, the drawings are indeed awesome. Gorgeous if I may go so far.

Just add the check in area at the end of the arms and it might well work.

But then, I dream.



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User currently offlineJeffrey1970 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1336 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5562 times:

FoxBravo,

I think it would have been interesting if they would have turned it into an avaition museum.

God bless through Jesus,

Jeff



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16865 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5563 times:

"Though the terminal could in no way support the artists renderings as shown, the drawings are indeed awesome. Gorgeous if I may go so far.

Just add the check in area at the end of the arms and it might well work."

If you look at the rendering you will notice the roadways lead to the Terminal in the back, there's only a small parking lot in front of T-5.

The rendering does not depict any "real" airline service for T-5, it's merely a structure connected to the actual terminal where Check in, security, baggage claim, gates are located.



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User currently offlineLucky727 From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 602 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5524 times:

Studied Eero Saarinen's 1956 masterpiece at design school - here's a great link with stunning pix. (can't find how to do an active link)

http://www.greatbuildings.com/buildings/TWA_at_New_York.html

STT757 - amazing renderings, even if the proposal dwarfs the original in scale - but still a great 'integration'




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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16865 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5501 times:

"amazing renderings, even if the proposal dwarfs the original in scale "

That's one thing I don't think people really grasp unless they are there, T-5 is small. It's about the size of a large suburban McDonalds, you can fit several T-5s into the brand new T-4 at JFK.




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