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US Airways Frequent Fliers Wait And Wonder  
User currently offlinePilatusguy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2004, 315 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2949 times:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30819-2004Jan20.html

Would be interested to hear your opinions on this one!

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User currently offlineRj777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1813 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2865 times:

I smell another TWA...........

User currently offlineRockyRacoon From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 967 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2845 times:

I hope my dad doesn't loose his miles. Talk about a kick in the sack. Not nearly as bad as all of the employees will get though.

peace


User currently offline767-322ETOPS From United States of America, joined May 2001, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2835 times:

IF it is another TWA, then US FF's will be comforted to know their miles will be transferred to another carriers program.

User currently offlineRiverVisualNYC From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 930 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2790 times:

Tonight in his State of the Union speech, President Bush is going to tell America that the economy's getting better, that the unemployment rate is going down, and that more jobs are around the corner. So we shouldn't worry about US Airways, the pickup in the economy will save their business, or if it doesn't, there will be new jobs for all the people who end up out of work as a result of the failure. Right?

User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2770 times:

Im in the same boat here...myself and both my parents have some form of elite status on US and between us we have several hundred thousand miles in our DM accounts...as far as Im concerned its about time to spend those miles ASAP before US goes Chapter 7...

Greg



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User currently offlineUnited777ORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 262 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2743 times:

President Bush says alot about things getting better but it does not mean that they actually are. Hopefully, USAiways will survive but unfortuantely, they don't have a hub in the state of Texas. If they did then the merger with United would have been approved and USAirways probably would not be in the state that they are in now.

User currently offlineRiverVisualNYC From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 930 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2706 times:

I'm with United777 here, my comment was somewhat cynical. Maybe they can still get a merger approved if it will save some jobs, the competitive issues that the regulators objected to are obviously irrelevant now, we are talking about whether or not we want airline captains flying airplanes or making lattes at Starbucks, and whether or not we want flight attendants attending to flights or flipping burgers, or A&P mechanics installing mufflers at Midas, etc, etc. This of course in addition to the loss of competition in certain markets and the entire loss of airline service to a number of smaller communities like Salisbury/Ocean City. Sure someone will pipe up and say US made alot of mistakes in the past, had a high cost structure, and so on, but with everything else going on in the economy, the failure of another major airline and the resulting increase in unemployed professionals would be a sign that things aren't as great as they are being made out to be. If the only businesses that are allowed to survive in America are the most efficient with the lowest labor costs, there is going to be alot more unemployment and alot less consumer choice.

User currently offlineRthrbeflying86 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 243 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2647 times:

I already made an award reservation for this upcoming Thanksgiving on US, mainly because Thanksgiving week is hard to get. I'll be flying SFO-PHL-SFO, with the outbound on US and the inbound on UA. Does anyone know what happens to my reservation in the event US goes Chapter 7? Does United take me both ways? Do i lose the reservation completely?

thanks

Dan



I'd rather be flying.
User currently offlineCha747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 785 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2637 times:

I'd like to see US flying as long as possible but if the airline goes under, I'm not that worried about my FF miles. I transferred nearly 100,000 miles from Pan Am to Delta with no incident and about 20,000 miles from TWA to AA without incident. If US's assets/routes are taken over by a mainstream carrier, I'm sure the loyalties US has built (especially in the Pittsburgh and Philadelphia regions) will be solidifed with a new carrier.


You land a million planes safely, then you have one little mid-air and you never hear the end of it - Pushing Tin
User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2625 times:

It's a shame.
Our company travel agent put them on our "no-fly" list to limit exposure in case of collapse.
I imagine many agencies are doing the same..which will only hasten their ability to maintain revenue.


User currently offlineRiverVisualNYC From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 930 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2616 times:

Just a random thought, but how about a US Airways, Northwest, and America West 3-way merger...They are all Airbus customers and operate largely in distinct parts of the country that don't overlap.

User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8234 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2516 times:

They are all Airbus customers and operate largely in distinct parts of the country that don't overlap.

That doesn't mean it makes any business sense.



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User currently offlineUnited777ORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 262 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2482 times:

RiverVisualNYC: Thanks for the support...It's a shame USAirways is in the condition that they are in. The United/USAirways merger should have been approved but both of these airlines don't have hubs in Texas and they compete with American. So we know how that goes when we have a Bush from Texas in the White House...Hopefully, Chapter 7 will be avoided.

User currently offlineCaetravlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 908 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2442 times:

United777 and RiverVisual, you guys are greatly oversimplifying things. Back when that merger was being evaluated, there WERE competitive concerns, and to be honest, it would have meant the demise of two great airlines instead of just one. UAL is currently in Chapter 11 itself. Where would it be if it paid about 30 times too much for an airline with USAirways problems? It is really a good thing that merger never happened, at least from a UAL point of view. That merger was something that Stephen Wolf cooked up to make himself some money. It's kind of akin to a Carl Icahn deal if you look at it closer.

Now, none of this is to say that I want USAirways to fail. I want them to survive, and I want everyone to keep their jobs. However, just because this airline is suffering, does not mean that the economy overall is not improving. This one airline makes up one miniscule part of the US economy. Yes, on a personal level, all of those affected by such a demise are not doing better, but in the grander scheme of things, our economy is improving. Don't blame Bush. Most of this stuff is a result of things that were put in motion long before he became president. Please include facts if you are going to point a finger at anyone, our president, past airline management, or anyone, for the state that these airlines are in now.

I think that a revisiting of a US and UA merger would be a good thing, if either of them had the funds to make it happen.

Sorry for the rant, but I hate gross generalizations with no basis in fact.

Regards,
CAETravlr



A woman drove me to drink and I didn't have the decency to thank her. - W.C. Fields
User currently offlineRIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2369 times:

Exactly, CAETravlr. Great post.

User currently offlineGoingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2338 times:

Why would United even want to merge with USAirways? All they have to do is look at AA for all the "warm fuzzy" feelings generated by the integration of the different workforces. That alone would most likely keep UAL from taking them over. If UAL wants some of USAirways "assets", then it's better off just letting them fail and picking up what they want...on THEIR terms. Heartless, I know - but that's about the only scenario where UAL could "acquire" US and actually get stronger.

Caetravler - I know some guys in tech services who are watching their jobs be 'offshored" for "shareholder value" that might argue that the economy is getting better.


User currently offlineN628AU From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2257 times:

It's a shame.
Our company travel agent put them on our "no-fly" list to limit exposure in case of collapse.
I imagine many agencies are doing the same..which will only hasten their ability to maintain revenue.



Your travel agent is a moron.

US is not, I repeat, not going under. All of this is fodder to get the unions to come back to the table, and they will fold to protect their membership numbers. US will add 60 A320 aircraft, get unit costs down, and recall very few employees to do so.


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