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AA To Restructure, Expand MIA Hub  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6637 times:

American Airlines today announced a restructuring and expansion of thier primary interantional gateway at MIA. This includes more frequencies, more banks (7 to 13), and very likely more destinations. The exact schedule details are still TBA:

In Miami, the airline's principal gateway to Latin America, American will spread its operations more evenly by increasing the number of daily flight banks to 13 from seven, effective May 1. In doing so, the airline will be able to operate more flights in and out of Miami using fewer aircraft, thereby greatly increasing the hub's efficiency and assisting in the company's overall objective to lower costs.

At the same time, the restructured Miami hub will significantly enhance customer service, allowing American to offer passengers more flight choices, giving customers more time to make their flight connections, and spreading out the flow of international passengers in ways that will make it easier to clear customs and immigration processing.


Awesome news for MIA!


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User currently offlineAhlfors From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 1347 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6578 times:

I wonder if this means new destinations. I would love to see a return to ANU non-stop.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6533 times:

wonder if this means new destinations. I would love to see a return to ANU non-stop.

It most likely does mean new destinations. AA has been adding new destinations left and right at MIA the past 18 months.

June 2002: Santiago/STI and Medellin/MDE
November 2002: Punta Cana/PUJ
December 2002: Charlotte/CLT
January 2003: Las Vegas/LAS
July 2003: Columbus/CMH and Pittsburgh/PIT
October 2003: Cincinnati/CVG
November 2003: Minneapolis/MSP and Indianapolis/IND
January 2004: Richmond/RIC and Guanacaste Liberia/LIR

On the rumour board:
Kansas City/MCI, Phoenix/PHX, San Diego/SAN, Seattle/SEA, Valencia/VLN, Antigua/ANU, St. Lucia/SLU, Providence/PVD, Grenada/GND, Manchester/MAN, Greensboro/GSO, Memphis/MEM, Birmingham/BHM, Ganiesville/GNV, Norfolk/ORF, Cozumel/CZM

Plus a few others as well. It is extremely likely AA will launch at least four or five new non-stop routes from MIA this year.



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User currently offlineRyanairA320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2003, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6478 times:



Will AA come to Dublin and codeshare with Aer Lingus???


RyanairA320





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User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6436 times:

Hey MAH,

What are you think will expand more new nonstop this year of 2004? If you get anything more news lately with AA and also, I heard AA are join with the codeshare with Mexicana now. Did you get with those news this morning? Please let us know! Thanks!  Smile


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6435 times:

Will AA come to Dublin and codeshare with Aer Lingus???

There were strong rumours a while back, but they have died down. Before anything, however, the US and Ireland have to find a way to agree to make Miami and US-Ireland gateway. Then EI and AA can decide who will fly any proposed Miami-Ireland service.



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User currently offlineTripseven From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6412 times:

Real quick question.... What are "banks?" Thx

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6397 times:

At small/medium hubs, flight arrivals and departures are timed in "banks" to coincide with each other... so pax dont have to sit around waiting for a series of connections to randomly occur.



User currently offlineJsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2036 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6379 times:

Just out of curiosity, has American opened any components of the new terminal expansion yet? I knew that an extension to Concourse D was under construction and near completion, and that the first portion of Concourse D was being reconstructed. Where do they stand on the project completion?

When they start rebuilding the ticketing/baggage claim areas, things will probably get really hairy...


User currently offlineQqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2282 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6333 times:

It has been long rumored at AA that if we were to start service to Ireland, it would be from Boston. If this new 757 service from Boston to Manchester works well, perhaps they'll look at offering 757 service to Dublin. It may not ever happen though with Aer Lingus in the oneworld alliance. I can't imagine service from Miami to Ireland.


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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6294 times:

I can't imagine service from Miami to Ireland

EI has been whining/pushing for Ireland-MIA service for years now....


User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3413 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6275 times:

Could this be the move that nets PVD it's long awaited MIA flight? Keeping my fingers crossed...

User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1599 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6245 times:

A MIA-SAN non-stop on AA would be awesome. We can use some good news around here. San Diego-Florida non-stops are, at this time, non-existent so that would be good news. I know they tried it a few years back with a 757, but AA would stand a better chance utilizing the 737-800 on the route. Perhaps Song or B6 will someday operate MCO-SAN non-stops as well.


Uncle SAN at your service!
User currently offlineBHMNONREV From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6209 times:

MAH4546, hope those "rumours" of yours turn out to be fact, especially the BHM flights. I could see Eagle running one or two ERJ's a day to connect with the South/Central America and Caribbean departures...

User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6168 times:

i think that MIA most needes SAN, SEA, MCI, PVD, and GVL. There are others, I know, but those routes would be great for MIA!


So, how do the panke look like?
is it
4am-6am
6am-7am
7am-8am
8am-9am
9am-10am
10am-12pm
12pm-2pm
2pm-4pm
4pm-5pm
5pm-6pm
6pm-8pm
8pm-10pm
10pm-11pm



that seems the most feesible way.

do they still fly a 3am MIA-POS...how do they work that with connections and all?


User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2077 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6067 times:

Alright! Things are looking up for AA. You would have to think that MCI, PHX, SAN, and SEA are definitely coming. Probably on a mix of S80's/757's, with any luck some other destinations will receive more service also. Big grin

User currently offlineSarrebal From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6030 times:

I don't understand how come AA hasn't ever considered a flight to/from Milan, since MXP-MIA is one of the (very) few very profitable AZ's routes.

Plus, AA could connect passengers to Latin America!


User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6145 posts, RR: 23
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6009 times:

Nope Flairport...MIA-POS departs at 5:20p and 7:15p
ASSFO



"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlineKKMolokai From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 760 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5910 times:

Sarrebal,

AA used to fly from Chicago to Milan, a few years back.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5717 times:

I can't imagine service from Miami to Ireland.

Miami is the largest trans-Atlantic market from Ireland with no non-stop service. It is very easy to imagine. Aer Lingus has been begging and pleading to make Miami and US-Ireland gateway for a while now (along with San Francisco), but the US won't budge because of the 50/50 rule.

I don't understand how come AA hasn't ever considered a flight to/from Milan, since MXP-MIA is one of the (very) few very profitable AZ's routes.


Alitalia has the market all covered up, IMO. It is a profitable route, and one of few US-Italy routes with a healthy amount of premium traffic (thanks to the fashion industry), but Alitalia's daily service suffices demand.

MAH4546, hope those "rumours" of yours turn out to be fact, especially the BHM flights. I could see Eagle running one or two ERJ's a day to connect with the South/Central America and Caribbean departures...


BHM officials have been pushing for this service for years. The new MIA-RIC non-stops that started the first week of January were a test for AA, trying out RJs to secondary markets. So far, MIA-RIC has been going out with over 80% loadfactors, frequently selling out on weekends. The popularity of that new service bodes well for other new RJ service to small/medium markets in the Southeast. Plus, American Airlines wants to continue thier dominance in the Caribbean by offering the same one-stop connections USAirways offers (USAirways is able to offer a much larger number of one-stop connections than American).

A MIA-SAN non-stop on AA would be awesome. We can use some good news around here. San Diego-Florida non-stops are, at this time, non-existent so that would be good news. I know they tried it a few years back with a 757, but AA would stand a better chance utilizing the 737-800 on the route.


Yes, they did try it a while back. The MIA hub is a lot stronger now, so I wouldn't be surprised to see it given another shot. Likely aircraft is 738. Even though the 752 is designed for leisure routes, the 738 is better suited capacity-wise.



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User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5623 times:


Thanks Mark, great news, and if they're comming from you, they must be true.

Miami obviously is my favorite foreign airport and connecting place, no matter what most people here says. And since American is serving Medellin nonstop, connection possibilities ar even better !  Smile

One of the things I would like to see, is precisely the Medellin run, going from 5x week to daily. I think that the company already had that planned for 2003, but never knew what happened.

And Bogota getting more service would be cool too. American cut back a bit from BOG after 9/11, so those would be even better news.


No matter what happens, great to see that American keeps consolidating their MIA hub more and more !


Regards,



SOUTHAMERICA


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5579 times:

One of the things I would like to see, is precisely the Medellin run, going from 5x week to daily.

I agree, the lack of daily service has always puzzled me. It is a huge market, not only with VFR, but also with business traffic.

And Bogota getting more service would be cool too. American cut back a bit from BOG after 9/11, so those would be even better news.

Yes, it would be much welcomed. AA introducing back the third daily would be great. They still run it, but only during the very busy holiday and summer rushes. One thing AA has obviously been doing is cutting back a little on frequency to certain high-yielding, limited service destinations, like BOG and PAP, in order to increase yields. AA could probably easily fill four daily flights on MIA-BOG and turn a profit, but they choose to fill two and turn a much healthier profit. It makes sense giving thier current financial state (and add the fact that the Miami international services on one of the few bright spots on thier route network), so I don't blame them. As their finances improve, I would think more frequencies will be on the horizon.



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User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3404 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5554 times:

hopefully AA will add a 4th flt to PHL or possibly upgrade one of their 757's to an A300. I've been dying to see one of them in PHL.

User currently offlineUA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5459 times:

Guys,

This, along with MX's defection, is the deathblow for what remains of UAL's MIA-Latin American operations.

Wait for an announcement in the coming months...


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 24, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5451 times:

This, along with MX's defection, is the deathblow for what remains of UAL's MIA-Latin American operations.

Wait for an announcement in the coming months...


I totally disagree. First off, AA is not adding anymore flights to GRU, GIG, EZE, nor MVD. Secondly, UA's two MIA-LatAm routes remain profitable despite no feed. Thirdly, a new terminal exclusively for UA and thier Star partners is well underway. The foundation work was completed recently. Anything can happen, but I don't see UA pulling out of MIA-EZE/GRU.



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25 Flairport : they used to have another...a 3:25am MIA-POS!
26 EddieDude : I agree this is not a "deathblow" to UA's Latin America operations, but it certainly shows that UA is now the U.S. carrier with the smallest presence
27 UA744Flagship : MAH4546, You are very knowledgable about MIA and aviation markets in general. I respect that. However, I ask that you revisit my "nostradamus statment
28 MAH4546 : However, I ask that you revisit my "nostradamus statment" this spring. It may happen, I agree with that. I don't believe it will, however. Who knows w
29 Post contains images UA744Flagship : All I have to say is: you better believe it cause it's coming. I am not a fan of it, but it's what's best for the company. Look for the aircraft to be
30 Doug : I would imagine that AUS and SAT might be in play as well.MAH4546 do you think this will put Miami as American's #2 primary hub over Chicago?Also how
31 Usairways85 : IF US is still around in the next year or two...couldn't US take over UA's mini-hub and add service from MIA to a good dozen Latin American/Caribbean
32 PVD757 : Mah, any word on when more of those details will be released, May 1st isn't that far away.
33 MAH4546 : Mah, any word on when more of those details will be released, May 1st isn't that far away. New schedules should be uploaded very early morning on Sund
34 MAH4546 : From today's Miami Herald: American, the dominant carrier at Miami International Airport, will have 195 daily flights on Feb. 1, up 6 percent from Feb
35 PVD757 : Mah, I too can't wait, even if we don't get one of the new flights here in PVD, I'm extremely interested in what the new set-up will look like. It's b
36 UA744Flagship : MAH4546... Need I say more???
37 MAH4546 : MAH4546... Need I say more??? Like I said, it was possible, but I didn't think it was going to happen. You were right. It is unfortunate, though it ma
38 Poh2 : Service to VLN (Valencia, Venezuela) would be great. Right now I'm always forced to use Aeropostal (Alas de Venezuela) to MIA and while they're not th
39 Post contains links ConcordeBoy : UA has now dropped their intercontinental nonstops from MIA.... http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040123/cgf014_1.html
40 Post contains images LambertMan : Wow, come to think of it AA has been making a ton of changes. In this mornings STL-PD an american spokeswoman said more changes at STL will be announc
41 MAH4546 : Please AA, come to VLN!!! Service was originally going to launch 1 November 2002. Though then everything went wrong in Venezuela and traffic plummeted
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