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Can A Chinese Airline Ever Make A Profit?  
User currently offlineGodbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Posted (10 years 3 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2818 times:

I just had a look at pictures from Air China and I was really surprised to see that they operate even more types of planes than Air France...
A319, A320, A340, 737-600, 737-700, 737-800, B747-400, 757-200, 767-200 and 777-200 and I might have missed some yet.
Looking at that fleet and then also knowing that the government more or less decides which airline gets which aircraft I have a question.
Is there is any Chinese airline that makes a profit or is the state control that high that airlines are still run the "communist-Aeroflot-way"?

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User currently offlineGodbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 months 15 hours ago) and read 2668 times:

Nobody have an idea?

Max


User currently offlineLutfi From China, joined Sep 2000, 759 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 14 hours ago) and read 2629 times:

Cathay Pacific see to do OK

User currently offlineGodbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (10 years 3 months 8 hours ago) and read 2531 times:

Well Cathay is not compareable at all. After all CX is a private company. Plus there fleet is nowhere as "crazy" or as others would say "spotter-friendly" as for example the one of Air China.

Max


User currently offlineHoons90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2947 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (10 years 3 months 8 hours ago) and read 2515 times:
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I think many of Air China's planes(namely 737-600, 757 etc) were brought into their fleet after mergers with China Southwest and possibly other airlines as well.


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User currently offlineA330Fan1 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 856 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 8 hours ago) and read 2508 times:

I might be wrong, but how about China Southern? aren't they doing pretty well overall?

-A330Fan1


User currently offlineAal777 From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 3 months 8 hours ago) and read 2477 times:

I also have the same thought too. I always wonder why they have to operate so many different types of aircraft in the same categories. For example, China Eastern, even before the merger, it operates the MD80/90, A320, 737-200/300/700. Even though they still manage to post a profit (Air China, I read in the news section few weeks ago.) Does it really necessary for one airline to operate every type of aircrafts?....or they assign each aircraft on one specific route?....or it is because of its "prestige"?

User currently offlineJe89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2357 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (10 years 3 months 8 hours ago) and read 2461 times:
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Air China also operates a bunch of B763s.

China Southern has brand new B737-700s . . . another aircraft to add to the list.


User currently offlineChiawei From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 938 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 3 months 7 hours ago) and read 2412 times:

All chinese airline do make profit on paper. State policy. In truth, i do not believe any chinese carrier makes money.

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9107 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 2379 times:

CX is one of the world's most profitable/richest airlines.

As for Chinese airlines, some of them do I think....


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5911 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 2364 times:

Let's not forget that these airlines have a huuuuge market to serve, even if it's still quite few who can afford to travel by air. For instance, it's estimated that during the Chinese New Year, over 4 billion trips will be made by land, sea and air.

User currently offlineAussieboggie From Australia, joined Sep 2000, 92 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2241 times:

Yes they can.

Air China just made a profit of $11 million last year. (News just came in)

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Air China makes 93 mln yuan profit in 2003

BEIJING, Jan 31 (Reuters) - Air China, which aims to list shares overseas this year, made a profit of 93 million yuan ($11 million) in 2003, overcoming a first-half loss suffered during the SARS outbreak, the official Economic Daily reported on Saturday.
The flagship carrier made around 2.01 billion yuan in profit in the second half of 2003, offsetting a 1.92 billion yuan loss for the first half, the newspaper said without elaborating.

Chinese carriers, including Air China's main rivals, China Eastern Airlines and China Southern Airlines , were hit hard by the SARS outbreak last year but traffic bounced back quickly.

Air China aims to launch an overseas IPO later this year that could raise about $500 million, investment bank sources say. ($1=8.277 Yuan)



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