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Britsh Airways 767 1st And Business Class Seats  
User currently offlineJoleb From Belgium, joined Oct 2003, 290 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 17578 times:

Does anybody know how those seats are?
are they still the old cradle seats in business and how is first?


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User currently offlineShamrock_747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 17533 times:

Yes, Club World has the cradle seats. I have no idea about FIRST though.

User currently offlineRiverVisualNYC From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 930 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 17508 times:

I once flew the 767 from JFK to MAN and observed that it was configured for 2 classes, Club World with the old Cradle Seat and World Traveller. Not sure if they're all like this or if they've changed it....

User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 17482 times:

Sorry no more BA 763's with First Class, just Club World and World Traveler.


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User currently offlineRiverVisualNYC From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 930 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 17457 times:

I might add that the uniqueness of the 767 configuration made for an interesting JFK-MAN flight experience for me. I got the sense that because this is an unusual configuration on a low traffic route, the crew went out of their way to be friendly and provide good service in a way that you don't get on one of the crowded big 747s to LHR....

User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 17430 times:

I'm not sure when First was "axed," but in late December of 2003 I flew on two different BA 767s that did have First.

The service by all means was wonderful: There was a very friendly staff. The seats were very nice, but on each leg, there seemed to be a lot of problems: No working lights or PTVs, but luckily it was a third full.

My one complaint is the food. A friend of mine had food that was very dry and was okay, while my first flight's food was half over-cooked and half under-cooked. (Not to mention that I got food poisoning on the way back!)

Honestly, if it were possible, I would ask for a VS Economy Meal. No joke.

Still, though, it is a very nice service.  Big thumbs up

-Will



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User currently offlineKZBA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 17402 times:
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Most 767s are still conig with 8 seats in First. JFK-MAN is the exception.

User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 17388 times:

Most 767s are still conig with 8 seats in First. JFK-MAN is the exception.
Ah, that would make sense. Thanks.  Smile
-Will



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User currently offlineBA001Concorde From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 94 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 17382 times:

First on the BA B-767-300ER's has not been completely eliminated.

All of these routes are operated with a B-767-300ER and offer First.

TLV, BWI, ACC, CCS, DAR, and EBB.

ACC = Accra, GH
CCS = Caracas, VE
DAR = Dar Es Salaam, TZ
EBB = Entebbe, UG

Rgds,
BA001



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User currently offlineKZBA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 17337 times:
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I will be curious to see how (and I guess if) we reconfig them with the New J seats and the WTP cabin.

User currently offlineWimpycol From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 484 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 17296 times:

I flew last year LHR-CCS-BOG and back
Yes there is FIRST and Club and World all with old Cradle Seats!!
see this...........


There are also BA 767's with just Club World and World Traveler.
look at this..........


for more info see http://www.seatexpert.com

regards and saludos
Wimpycol



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User currently offlineBA001Concorde From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 94 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 17258 times:

KZBA:

I have a feeling that when the B-767-300ER's become dusk, they would be fitted with only J, W, and M.

I don't think there is any way to fit four cabins (F, J, W, and M) on a 767. It would take up too much space and there would be only about 110-120 seats for purchase. The three class (F, J, and M) already only seat 134 passengers.

Besides, J would have flat beds.

BA001



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User currently offlineKZBA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 17215 times:
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I agree completely that F would be eliminated all together, but its still going to cut the overall seating by a good number of seats, and like you said there are not very many to begin with.

User currently offlineJoleb From Belgium, joined Oct 2003, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 17110 times:

they still have first following to amadues to caracas
thats where i will be flying
but i m sure they have the old cradle seats in business


User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 16986 times:

First on the BA B-767-300ER's has not been completely eliminated.

All of these routes are operated with a B-767-300ER and offer First.

TLV, BWI, ACC, CCS, DAR, and EBB.

ACC = Accra, GH
CCS = Caracas, VE
DAR = Dar Es Salaam, TZ
EBB = Entebbe, UG

Yep, I was on a BA 767 with first. Thanks, BA001.

 Smile
-Will



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User currently offlineJoleb From Belgium, joined Oct 2003, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 16833 times:

do the first seats resemble the ones on 777 or 747 or not?
and the business seats like the cradle seats?


User currently offlineB747-4U3 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2002, 990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 16769 times:

The 767s still have the old cabins (old J and Y seating) no PTVs...etc.

When the rest of the fleet was being upgraded, it was decided that the 67s wouldn't be upgraded because BA was hoping to sell them. However, as there is no market for them, BA decided to keep them, but, because of the decline in air-travel in recent years they decided not to upgrade them just yet to try and cut back on spending (especially as the 67s are used mainly on lower-yielding routes).



User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7379 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 16700 times:
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The BA configuations I discovered last year were as follows:

G-BNWH (the hack for MAN-JFK*) is 32J 183Y = 218 passengers
Other 767 long-haul = 8F 36J 137Y = 181 passengers
767 short-haul = 132 J 95Y = 227 (though it states it can be 247 in Y for
one-class operations).

* when it's not tech

David


User currently offlineSpeedbirdegjj From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 430 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 16679 times:

The first of the 767's are due for embodiment from A04 with the US routes earmarked to recieve them first. This follows much complaining from our customers about the lack of Flat beds in J and no WTP, particularly on routes such as GCM.

At presnt all 767's in the long haul fleet with the exception of the MAN-JFK aircraft which is operated by Citiexpress, have a three cabin F,J,Y config.

Cheers
Speedbird


User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 16643 times:

The 767s still have the old cabins (old J and Y seating) no PTVs...etc.
Correction: no PTVs in Y, but they are in First and Business (that is, when they work  Laugh out loud).

-Will



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User currently offlineJoleb From Belgium, joined Oct 2003, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 16603 times:

do the first seats resemble the ones on 777 or 747 or not?
and the business seats like the cradle seats?
anybody has pictures???


User currently offlineSafetyDude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3795 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 16495 times:

Actually, I do  Smile
http://winglets747.50megs.com/images/ba767cwseats.jpg

FYI: I'll be taking this picture down in a few months to re-build my site, so save it if you want to.

-Will



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 16313 times:

I can confirm that the British Airways 767s have the aforemntioned Cradle Seats


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User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2091 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 16229 times:

I think as has being mentioned BA was looking at disposing of the 767-336ER aircraft to BAE Systems for RAF Tanker conversion. However, if press speculation this week is correct BAE has lost this contract to EADS (A330-200s), largely due to massive overspends by BAE on other MoD contracts (To the tune of a couple of billion pounds!). If that's the case looks like BA is going to be stuck with the 767s for a while, so Speedbirdegjj's comments about interior upgrades to a J, W, M config starting later this year make sense.

For reference full BA 767-336ER routes this summer look like: -

BA047 LHR-Dar es Salaam (Mo, Th, Sa) [BA046 return Tu, Fr, Su]
BA063 LHR-Entebbe/Kampala (Tu, Th, Su) [BA062 return Mo, We, Fr]
BA077 LHR-Luanda (Fr) [BA076 return Sa]
BA081 LHR-Accra (Daily) [BA078 return Daily]
BA089 LHR-Nairobi (Tu, Th, Sa) {Sa flight continues to Seychelles until June} [BA088 return We, Fr, Su]
BA105 LHR-Dubai (Mo, Th, Sa) [BA104 return Tu, Fr, Su]
BA163 LHR-Tel Aviv (Daily) [BA162 return Daily]
BA165 LHR-Tel Aviv (Daily) [BA164 return Daily]
BA249 LHR-Bogota-Caracas (Tu, Th, Su) [BA248 return Tu, Th, Su]
BA253 LHR-Nassau-Grand Cayman (Tu, We, Fr, Sa) [BA252 return Tu, We, Fr, Sa]
BA253 LHR-Nassau-Providenciales (Su) [BA252 return Su]
BA255 LHR-Lusaka (Mo, We, Fr) [BA254 return Tu, Th, Sa]
BA1502 MAN-JFK (Daily) [BA1501 return]

All flights ex-LHR are three class configured, the MAN flight being two.

Baltimore is showing as a 777-236 operation this summer as opposed to 767-336ER that is being used at present.



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