ScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2383 posts, RR: 9 Posted (9 years 4 months 23 hours ago) and read 12523 times:
Got a couple of questions. How many aicraft will be repainted by summer? and will they be putting ptvs in the 744s when they get repainted? because they could do with them.
Aloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4397 posts, RR: 17 Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 17 hours ago) and read 12093 times:
And as has been said before, repainting won't be an extra expense to them because when an aircraft goes in for its D-check they strip the paint off anyway and have to paint it back on.
So instead of repainting the aircraft in the old colours, itll be painted in the new colours, and the new colours are likely to be simpler and therefore cheaper, which will SAVE United money.
Ordpark From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 541 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 16 hours ago) and read 11880 times:
I get so tired of this 'they must have better things to spend thier money on' crap....
When you're in bankruptcy, you can't do anything without the judges approval, so HE must be of the opinion that it's a good idea!
What do all of you naysayers want UA to do with it's money besides improve it's product? Paint jobs, new seats, TED are all marketing initiutives. My God, compared to the stiffs (Goodwin, etal) the current management team is a breath of fresh air.
UA is in the midst of a gut-wrenching cultural change for it's employees. Massive layoffs, VERY hefty pay cuts and being asked to work harder and assume more responsibilities. Many people don't like it (can you blame them?) but for the most part they understand that the survival of the company and thier jobs depend on everyone pitching in - the ones that don't understand probably won't be around much longer.
EMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9286 posts, RR: 13 Reply 9, posted (9 years 4 months 7 hours ago) and read 10424 times:
Last I knew UAL no longer painted their own aircraft in-house. They contracted it out several years ago due to the 'HUGE' EPA requirements. OOh, and the current UAL livery is 12 years old. It was unvailed in a commercial for during the Super Bowl. The first a/c painted was a 747-400 done in AMA.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
UniTED From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (9 years 4 months 5 hours ago) and read 8209 times:
Well said, Ordpark!
United will not only have money saved by repainting planes in simpler colors, but also finishing the //// U N I T E D brand to be reflected off of its aircraft will make the brand shine.
Bosugadl From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (9 years 4 months 5 hours ago) and read 8145 times:
EMBQA-
So if the people here are correct and the first plane is to be painted and rolled out this week, do you think we will see it in a commercial this during this super bowl? I know that a 30 second commerical cost like $8000 milllion-billion, but it was be cool to show off thier new c/s in front of a billion people.
EMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9286 posts, RR: 13 Reply 12, posted (9 years 4 months 5 hours ago) and read 8026 times:
No, I was just making a statment about the last time they painted their aircraft, it was released during the Super Bowl....Southwest did the same thing 2 years ago. UAL has no intent of painting their aircraft while in bankruptcy. As said above, the Judge in charge of this case would need to sign off on that, and I doubt they would with a negitive cash flow. Now, just after they get out of bankruptcy.....maybe. Just look at the average age of all the 'experts' here on .net that are claiming to know that UAL is going to do this...I see that as 14 yrs old. Heck, I have socks older then that...!!
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5338 posts, RR: 11 Reply 13, posted (9 years 4 months 5 hours ago) and read 7986 times:
Uhhh... EMBQA, I don't know if we're all communicating here. Are you claiming that UA is not coming up with a new livery? If so... right. We'll leave you in the dust on this one.
If not, then what are you saying in your last post?
ContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 15 Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 1 hour ago) and read 7206 times:
The current livery is not bad at all, if a bit stuffy. The United Airlines script on the fuselage though is a tad old and not consistent with the U N I T E D lettering and the "ted" connection.
Aloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4397 posts, RR: 17 Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 1 hour ago) and read 7127 times:
Not quite eurowhite
UA744flagship at first had heard that it was eurowhite, but later he provided info that UA management had changed its mind and would instead be painting the aircraft with a blue belly and either a "cheatline" or "cheatstrip" of three-tone United blue.
That link provided above gives a good idea of what it may look like.
Ord From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1370 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months ago) and read 6934 times:
"OOh, and the current UAL livery is 12 years old. It was unvailed in a commercial for during the Super Bowl."
These are incorrect statements. The current UA livery was unveiled January 11, 1993 (11 years ago) on a 744 flight leaving SFO at 11:45A bound for NRT (not during the Super Bowl, which incidentally was January 31, 1993).
25 EMBQA: Ord- OOh my god, I miss counted 1 yr.....!! Shoot me. I was remembering that the new UAL livery came out right before I graduated from A&P school, and
26 Trayfam: The renderings as posted by UA744Flagship are pretty close to what's been proposed. He's done a good job capturing the info leaked to him by his buddi
27 UAL747DEN: EMBQA You are a fool and when you see the new livery your will feel even more stupid than you already do. I cant wait to see you eat your words. You m
28 UA744Flagship: Trayfam, I take it you work for either UAL or Pentagram. Thanks for your comments echoing the "brand harmoization" notion. In any case, I don't believ
29 EMBQA: UAL747DEN- What the heck is your problem..? All I have said was: a) UAL no longer paints their a/c in house. b) The current gray paint livery is 11yrs
30 A340pilot: EMBQA: you seem to have missed one comment that you made................. UAL has no intent of painting their aircraft while in bankruptcy. just a not
31 EMBQA: Well, I did leave out one statment, but since when does voicing ones own opinion rate being called an 'Fool' and 'Stupid'......? This is a FORM.......
32 Aloha717200: This is a FORM.......where we all can discuss our thoughts and opinions......... No, it isn't. It's a FORUM. Just kidding ya.
33 A340pilot: EMBQA: I agree with you, there is no need for you to be called a fool and stupid, But the point of that persons post WAS the fact that you said....."U
34 ScottishLaddie: What about eventual ptvs in 744 econ to accompany the new livery?
35 EK413: Very interesting to bring up a topic regarding United's state and how they shouldnt be spending money on new paint jobs. Had anyone read the post I se
36 Dc863: The "leaked" scheme shown above reminds me of Varig's livery.
38 Jc5280: It takes a looooong time to paint all the planes in a fleet. I remember flying on a "old white" 737 in the middle of 1998. If they introduced the firs
39 UA744Flagship: Jc5280, it's up on my website. http://www.instantboard.com/users/imkeww/viewtopic.php?t=101 Yes, it will take a long time to repaint them... unless Ti
40 HlywdCatft: I remember being at ORD in 1998 and still seeing quite a few white Uniteds- mainly planes on their way out like 727s, 737-200s and DC-10s, but I do re
41 Ord: EMBQA - I meant no offense to you by my post. I just wanted to clairify when United unveiled the current scheme. Speaking of which, shortly after it w
42 EMBQA: Stephen Wolf left UAL and went over to USAirways and changed their livery too...... Notice any similarities..? Solid top, solid bottom, separated by s
43 EMBQA: UAL744- That is a COOL video.......!!! Too bad it doesn't off 'Smell O' Vision'...that stripper is NASTY.....!!!
44 L.1011: Well here are the color counts I can see Current: 11 colors as far as I can count. 5 blues, 2 reds, 2 grays, white, black. UAL's Own Livery: 7 colors:
45 A340pilot: That video was awsome, How do they remove the paint? is it by chemicals, or do they chip it off, or is it sanded? On the last part of that video, what
46 Mozart: How long does it take to paint ONE plane? I guess less time for a 737 than for a 747, but how much? Also, what happens to the UA Express fleet? Repain
47 Captaink: Ok, news to me that UA was repainting.. Yeah where have I been. But if it looks like those flightsim models, then it looks great. I don't fancy the da
48 Gigneil: I vastly prefer the dark liveries of US and UA to the lighter or white ones. As such, I really like the new livery that has been proposed here. N
49 Adam T.: The new livery is okay in my opinion but I do hate the light blue stripes. Adam
50 EMBQA: FYI......Here are the '14' colors that make up the current UAL Livery taken right from a blueprint........BAC is a Boeing Aircraft Color designation n
51 Ord: EMBQA - We're all asking you to contact your friends at the paint hanger and find out what's going on with the new livery!
52 EMBQA: It's been 4+ years since I was out in AMA, so I wish I could help....but..
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