Does anyone have any information about other airlines? Which airline - apart from LCC's - would be better? To me it seems like the planes are on the ground for a very long time and I don't see why they couldn't be in the air a bit more??
Also what would an LCC's utilization be - I would expect quite a bit higher?
Air2gxs From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4590 times:
I can't give you any concrete numbers, but for every hour an aircraft is in the air it requires "x" amount of hours for maintenance. Of course as the aircraft ages, it becomes more maintenance intensive. Also, technologically advanced aircraft spend more time on the ground at maintenance intervals because sometimes its harder to zero in on a problem because of systems intergration.
True, an aircraft is only making money in the air, and costing money on the ground. But, ground time, used correctly and efficiently should save you money.
CanadaEH From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 1341 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4471 times:
I think the daily utilization rate for a 737, on average (for a LCC) is somewhere around 10-16 hours a day. Newer aircraft also have a tendancy to operate even longer, sometimes as high as 20 hours a day. BA's 8 hour daily utilization rate pales in comparison...
Greaser From Bahamas, joined Jan 2004, 1101 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4359 times:
easyjet of UK says it has a turnover rate of 20 mins on good days, and this is hampered by late passengers only! Hard to believe, but true. I think Southwest and Jetblue have one of the highest fleet utilization rates and prob. the highest turnover rates
InnocuousFox From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2805 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4229 times:
Keep in mind, the larger the aircraft, the longer the turnaround time. Also, on longer flights, you are limited by the DEP/ARR times... you can't just turn the plane and come back immediately. A lot of time, then, is spent waiting for the oportune time to depart.
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AlexG From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 95 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4157 times:
I'm not a pro within these terms, but what came to my mind:
- Only the aircraft costs themselves pay off the faster, the more hours the a/c is in the air (given some revenue on these flights). But fuel and crew costs, maintenance, landing fees are per-flight-values.
- Carriers which tend to keep their a/c for long time, may prefer to keep some life in them.
- The shorter the routes, the lower the utilization rate. But not all airlines are able to fly longer routes -- and I'll bet there are very lucrative short flights.
Regarding BA's commuter a/c, an utilization of 8 hours may not be THAT low, given that U.K. is not the size of the States...
Just my few cents... (too much work to be done here at home... )
Swissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3894 times:
I think their long-haul fleet has a pretty good "in air" time if around 11-12 hrs a day. Smaller jets have more rotations and more ground time due to that the turn around time on ground is much longer than long-haul planes.
I'm sure airlines using long-haul planes on short-haul flights (eg. Japan) have a more ground time and a lower air utilization time.
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CPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4785 posts, RR: 23
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3873 times:
If I remember correctly Canada 3000 used to claim that they had the highest aircraft utilization rate of any airline in the world. A lot of good that did for them... The utilization on the A330-200s was around 16 hr/day.
United4ever From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 291 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3834 times:
I would have thought that the charter carriers would have the greatest utilisation as they have the same kind of short turnrounds as the LCCs plus they fly at all sorts of hours - Even the LCCs would have a job filling a 4am flight.