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YYZ New T-1 Trail Day On 24 Jan 04  
User currently offlineKlyk1980 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 153 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 3402 times:

Today is the trail day for Toronto Pearson International Airport (YYZ).

I arrived at the New T-1 parking garage at 8:45am, and then proceed to the West Bridge for the terminal building. There will be two bridges link up the parking garage and the terminal building - East and West.

After crossing the bridge, GTAA representative greeted us with a folder, which is my assignment for the trail. I was assigned as a passenger for Alitilia AZ 2051 from YYZ to Montreal, departure at 12:00pm, Gate 140 in new T-1. A 2-mins safety tape was showing and then proceed to the Departure Hall. The Hall is great, very bright and modern, finally YYZ shows something comparable to it's world class status. Breakfast refreshment was provided, nice touch. Then all the crowd were divided into different groups for different routines. I was Group 1, as a car rental passenger, return the car at the 1/F of the garage, with one regular luggage, GTAA prepared some real luggages, some of them were really heavy!! After pick-up the luggage, we were released and then with the "itinerary", I walked back to the Departure Hall with my luggage and line up for my flight to Montreal. What a big line....it takes me almost 30 mins for check in, Alitalia ground staffs check-in for me, I asked for jumpseat and vegetarian meal!! Really funny, her response was:"Sorry, special meals required 24-hours advance notice and the flight is entirely full today, so no upgrade can be provided". Ok...fine, then she asked me if I want window seat or aisle, I picked window. Boarding was issued and I proceeded to the security check. Surprisingly the security check is very clsoe to the public area, a little bit abnormal. Anyway, inspection as usual then I walked in the restricted area. The lounge is great but I think not really have enough seats! I can view the empty Terminal 3 East gate, not the time yet for T-3 East and also the Old T-1 with 2 Air Canada B763 and some CRJ and Dash-8 under Jazz livery.

Some entertainment were provided near Gate 140, so most people were not bored before the "boarding"

Gate opened at 11:45 for "boarding. NO real aircraft for boarding of course. We walked in the boarding bridge and then U-Turn on the half way. Once we U-Turn, we became arrival passenger and the walk back to the Buggage Claim.

The Buggage Claim area is huge and ....in my opinion, the arrival level's design is soooo similar to DTW NW World Gateway. BUt it is good. BUt the sign is not good enough to direct people from Buggage Claim to the Arrival Hall, improvement is required in this part. I have special assignment, i was assumed I lost my luggaue and have to report to the Alitalia Buggage Counter. But...no one was there. I asked the GTAA staffs, they said they have no idea where the Alitalia staffs!! Poor AZ...anyway, I left the Buggage Claim for Arrival Hall. I have already reported the case to GTAA in my survey and ask for compensation!

Free lunch with sandwich and pop by GTAA, chicken or beef, sounds like inflight catering service.The trail approximately ended at 1:00pm. YYZ T-1 is great when compare to the old one and T-2.

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User currently offlineSkytrain From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 297 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 3309 times:

Don't forget about the old Royal 737 that seems to have been turned into a glider!  Smile


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Pride of the fleet that one! .. It's in worse shape now!

Cheers - Skytrain.



At the end of the day we are likely to be punished for our kindnesses...
User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 17 hours ago) and read 3250 times:

Klyk1980,

It was not a 'trail'! That's something you go hiking on.  Smile. I attended the trial too, and got lucky. My group had to make a connection with a flight departing from Terminal 2, and this meant an interesting bus ride with close up views of planes taxiing past us at close range. The most interesting of these was the AC Star Alliance 762 C-GAUB. I got a picture out of the back window of the bus and may upload it to A.net.

The packed lunch was better than on previous trials, and we also got a gift this time - a miniature FM radio.


User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4980 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 16 hours ago) and read 3228 times:

The trial was just awful.

It ws 11:45a before we did anything... and we had waited for 3 hours just doing nothing..

Mark


User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 15 hours ago) and read 3202 times:

The trial was just awful.

Yeah, I suppose in your case, it was - I mean, it was in Toronto.  Nuts

It ws 11:45a before we did anything... and we had waited for 3 hours just doing nothing..

You mean.... waiting around for hours for your flight, just like in a real, live airport? Must've been like flying Air Canada......  Big grin



"Talk to me, Goose..."
User currently offlineKlyk1980 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 14 hours ago) and read 3174 times:

I am so sorry that I make spelling mistakes again......I was rush to post it up once I back home..

Olympus69 you are so lucky....in some case, the trial was boring. I tried to spot some crafts from the terminal but it was so quiet.


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16259 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 14 hours ago) and read 3149 times:

If these trials are so boring, then why go? I heard the same comments about boredom after the earlier trials. No offense intended....just an honest question.






Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 13 hours ago) and read 3104 times:

I thought some aspects could have been handled better. Our group were supposed to be Wayfinders and would be watched to see if we had trouble finding where to go. We had different itineraries but didn't get the scripts for them until we had gone through security. I got through in 20 minutes, but it took 50 minutes before all 43 members of the group cleared security and we just stood around waiting for everyone. Then we got the scripts and were released 2 at a time to start the trial.

User currently offlineSkytrain From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 297 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 11 hours ago) and read 3083 times:

Ya, our group didn't start until about 11 as we had to re-check our baggage in arrivals. Some parts were slow, but it was kind of nice just to walk around and explore the place before it opens.

By the way, what do you guys think of the new terminal? Not the trials, but the terminal itself? Well done or overrhyped? Anything lacking?

Cheers - Skytrain.



At the end of the day we are likely to be punished for our kindnesses...
User currently offlineKlyk1980 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 10 hours ago) and read 3062 times:

The terminal itself is great. BUt do you guys think the gate area is too small for a busy airport as YYZ Air Canada's hub? It will be a terrible experience if i visit the terminal again @ 8:30am after its official opening.

Some signs are not clear enough, for example from Parking Garage to the terminal and also from the luggage claim to the arrival hall. It is bad it invlove one level downward after deplane for luggage claim.


User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 3035 times:

KlyK1980,

Don't forget this is just the domestic area that will be opening in April. When the International Pier F is built there will be plenty of gates. I'm not sure when that's supposed to happen.

It is bad it invlove one level downward after deplane for luggage claim.

Then you have to go back up one level to reach the bridge to the Parking Garage.


User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 3022 times:

Olympus69;
What time did you arrive at the terminal? We were told about the interesting script... But, we may have arrived too late to receive it. Had the same script as FlyYUL. Didn't see you at all, by the way. Maybe you were too busy driving around the airfield taking pictures :-]

aw

[Edited 2004-01-25 05:36:11]

User currently offlineKlyk1980 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 9 hours ago) and read 3007 times:

Hopefully Pier F will open to the public as soon as possible.

By the way, I saw the Westjet sign near in departure hall aisle D, is that mean...Westjet will use T-1 later? They are going to triple their flight in YYZ....


User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 6 hours ago) and read 2974 times:

By the way, I saw the Westjet sign near in departure hall aisle D, is that mean...Westjet will use T-1 later? They are going to triple their flight in YYZ....

Yeah, WestJet will be moving into T-New, as it was part-and-parcel with their schedule enhancements to YYZ.... it was mentioned in their press release about a week ago. That's supposed to happen at or around April 4th, I can't remember the exact date......



"Talk to me, Goose..."
User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2933 times:

I was at the trial, and was disappointed with the script I had. I was told there were a few scripts that included a bus ride along the tarmac. Unfortunately, I was unable to get one of these scripts. Thank you Mr. B! (You know who you are)  Big grin

In my script, we were very unproductive, and had to wait around for far too long. I will likely still go to the next trial though, call me crazy.

By the way, I did like the food better this time. Those chocolate fudge cakes were delicious! Anybody have any left?  Big grin

Like I've said previously, I like the new terminal. It is a little lacking in colour in a few areas, but overall very modern, airy and comfortable. It also gives very nice views of the tarmac at certain spots.



"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offline1world From Canada, joined Jan 2002, 199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2928 times:

All these experiences do sound like the last few trials they had at TNew, boring and slow.

Did anyone get a gift this time? That was the biggest disappointment the last time, they talked about a gift in the intro at TNew but in the end everyone got nothing.

The boarding / waiting areas at the gates do seem a bit tight and they will have congestion to deal with on some of the big flights.



YYZ spotter
User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2917 times:

Hi Tony,

I got to the Parking Garage at around 8:40 or so. There was a line-up to get into the garage - made worse by one of the 3 ticket issuing places malfunctioning, so it was about 8:50 when I got my script folder (White). I arrived at security on level 2 (for connecting passengers) at 9:30 and headed for the bus at about 10:30. We were on the bus for over half an hour, and then I went to gate 124, supposed to board at 11:40 but was delayed until 12:30. Finally I was an arriving passenger and went to the baggage claim to pick up a bag with a red ribbon.

I thought I saw you at security screening - in the channel on the extreme right, next to the wall. You had just gone through the doorway, but had gone before I got close enough to see if the person actually was you.


User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2901 times:

Skytrain,

I was disappointed that there aren't more shops and restaurants in the groundside areas of the building - before you go through security. I compare it with MCO which has like a small shopping mall in the main concourse. The fact that Orlando is a tourist area may have something to do with it.

1world,

Yes, we did get a gift this time - a mini FM radio with a belt clip and ear things - no speaker.


User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2867 times:

John, it's too bad I didn't see you there either. I guess you were having too much fun.  Smile

BTW, I picked the calculator.

I also hear they ran out of meals  Sad



"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineOlympus69 From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 1737 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2855 times:

I wasn't given a choice of gift.

I'm not surprised they ran out of meals. Some people probably went back for 'seconds' to take home with them  Smile


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16259 posts, RR: 56
Reply 20, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2842 times:

I'm not surprised they ran out of meals. Some people probably went back for 'seconds' to take home with them

I'm not surprised. Every gathering has some pigs.  Insane

So have any other airlines confirmed that they will be flying out of T-New on opening day other than Westjet?




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2839 times:

John, I admit, I had more than one meal  Big grin but they had 2000 meals for about 1200 people. I'm sure many people ditched the meals, and most just had one meal. Obviously people who weren't supposed to have meals went for them as well. Oh well!  Smile

I was given the choice of a calculator or radio, but I did get there quite early. Neil didn't go, so he got nothing!  Big thumbs up



"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineA380 From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 658 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2814 times:

Surprising! There were tons of meals left for the last few trials.

User currently offlineRattibone From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2810 times:

Yyz717,

Confirmed airlines as of opening day:

Air Canada - Domestic and International
Air Canada - Domestic
Austrian
Alitalia
Mexicana
Lufthansa
Westjet


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16259 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2790 times:

Thanks Rattibone! T1 & T2 will be mighty quiet.

What about UA? I presume they will migrate with AC at the same time.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
25 Skytrain : Olympus69, I completely agree! I was so angry - and confused that there seems to be so little shopping available! I always find myself buying a few ma
26 Olympus69 : Skytrain, Actually, the December 2003 GTAA update book lists:- 13 Restaurants 10 Newsstands & Bookstores 8 Other Shops However, all of the above excep
27 Post contains images Goose : Thanks Rattibone! T1 & T2 will be mighty quiet. T1 will be a gaping hole in the ground not long after the move......
28 Post contains images Skydrol : Goose wrote: >>> T1 will be a gaping hole in the ground not long after the move......
29 Post contains images Cor_18 : Yes, I saw that the meals had run out also. When they ran out, they started serving those round pizzas which weren't that great. The trick is to be on
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