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Bathroom On Beech 1900?  
User currently offlineRolo987 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 293 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 10985 times:

I was looking at seat maps of the B1900s of Commutair and Gulfstream International and I did not see a bathroom on either seat map. Is this true that they don't have lavs?

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User currently offlineAirdude66 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 10933 times:

Traditionally, the policy was BRING YOUR OWN.

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 10929 times:

Bathroom, What bathroom......??? On a 1900...?? LoL..!! You can't even stand up in a 1900........


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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day ago) and read 10765 times:
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EMBQA, one of the 1900s do indeed have a lav. It's either the C or the D model. It's in the back and takes up quite a bit of room that could otherwise have been used for bags.


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21634 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day ago) and read 10748 times:

I've never seen one on a 1900, and I've flown them with US Express and UA Express. They're funny looking planes, but I've had some good flights on them.


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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day ago) and read 10747 times:

Th lavatory on the B1900s is optional on both the C and D models.

Like you said, it takes up quite a bit of space in the cargo compartment which is located in the aft of the plane.

Most airlines have opted not to install the lavatory as it takes up precious cargo space.

Regards



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day ago) and read 10718 times:
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BA, yup. Especially when loading Danish planes, where the rear cargo hold is taken up by beer (seriously). We could only load the front cargo, and then when you put a bathroom in there, it made for a lot of fun. Especially since we were also loading oil drilling equipment on several of the flights.


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User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 22 hours ago) and read 10626 times:

Air New Zealand's Beech 1900D do have the toilet option.

I must admit I've never actually seen anyone use it on my many flights on them!



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User currently offlineBrick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1585 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 22 hours ago) and read 10579 times:

I had two flights on Beech 1900D's with Great Lakes Airlines last week. Neither aircraft have a lavoratory. My two other flights with them in late 2002 was on different aircraft and they didn't have lavs either.

It looks like to me it's an option that the operator has a choice over. Kinda of like the auto pilot option (almost nobody opted for auto pilot in those things).

Flights on Beech 1900's are usually under 90 minutes so I think you can go without a lav for that long...

Mark Abbott
Denver, CO



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User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 22 hours ago) and read 10565 times:

They don't have F/As either.


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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3413 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 22 hours ago) and read 10555 times:

Air Alliance (AC Jazz network?) has 18 seats and a lav. Commutair & Colgan (CO & US express' respectively) do not. Those are the 1900 operators here at PVD.

User currently offlineA340pilot From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 22 hours ago) and read 10539 times:

Where in the heck would you put it without loosing at least 3 rev seats?


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User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 22 hours ago) and read 10522 times:

doesn't look like they have cockpit doors either....


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User currently offlineTG992 From New Zealand, joined Jan 2001, 2910 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 22 hours ago) and read 10498 times:

The BEH doesn't have a cockpit door fitted. You can see the toilet door in the picture here:


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Air NZ's BEH have 19 seats with the toilet option fitted. You can look at the seatmap here: http://www.airnz.co.nz/travelinfo/ontheplane/seating/beechcraft_1900d.htm



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User currently offlineJayspilot From United States of America, joined May 2001, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 10414 times:

The lav option on the 1900 takes out the middle seat in row nine.. The lav itself is actually in the cargo compartment, reducing space for baggage. Its a nice option for companies like air nova and georgian in Canada who fly them on flights of 2+ hrs.. Its weight is similar to a passenger, so if you have only 5 pax and the lav its done as like having six in the weight and balance...

AS for standing up in the plane. Don't count on it in the C models.( those haven't been built in years) but in the D's as long as you aren't over 71 inches you should be all set. (except over the wing where the spare runs across...
hope this helps


User currently offlineFedExDC-10 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 196 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 10403 times:

There's no lav on a B1900. Don't need one....
No one can stand to ride the damn things for more than 20 minutes or so.

LOL.
FedExDC-10


User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 10282 times:
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FedExDC-10, how about reading all the replies on this page before giving out your wisdom? It seems pretty obvious that lavs are an option on the ugly little planes.


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User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4575 posts, RR: 40
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 10279 times:

I ventured into the toilet on an Air NZ 1900D like the one TG992 showed above. The place is cramped (like a cupboard really) and poorly lit - unless you are about to have an aneurism from holding on, I don't think it is really that practical...

V/F



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User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 38
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 10237 times:

Another thing is that it is rarely a smooth enough ride in the Beech 1900 to even have a chance to turn off the seatbelt sign and use a lav.


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User currently offlineMiles_mechanic From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 21 hours ago) and read 10218 times:

Hey everyone, I work on the 1900s here in Canada, and yes it is an option on the D model that we have, we had the bathroom installed at the front, so it replaces seat 1C. It is of course very cramped, but it has a coat closet built in. So ours keep the triple seat at the back, and the full baggage compartment. The lav is not something that we enjoy having to service as it is just a honey bucket that must be removed and emptied. If you have had a charter of some beered up fishermen that can be full after a hour flight, lol.
So just another option of where the lav is on some 1900's. We also opted for the power steering on ours too.

regards

miles


User currently offlineFedExDC-10 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 196 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 10132 times:

Little late checking this thread, but here goes.

KaiGwyer: Speaking of wisdom, perhaps you would use some in order to recognize that what I said was a joke...

FedExDC-10


User currently offlineAirdude66 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 10071 times:

Since someone mentioned no F/A's.....


Who provides the inflight meal and beverage service?


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3969 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 10069 times:
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yes there is a bathroom



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User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 10069 times:
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FedExDC-10, while the last sentence of your post most certainly looked like a joke, the line "There is no lav on a B1900", looks in no way like a joke, but more like a statement.  Smile

Sorry if I offended you  Big grin



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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5910 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (10 years 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 10062 times:
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The only 19-seater I've ever seen a toilet in is a J31.

25 Post contains images CALMSP : its rows 1-8!!!!! atleast thats what some pax have thought in the past
26 Post contains images Cha747 : sigh so before anybody else asks, what is the IFE? Is there a PTV?
27 Post contains images KaiGywer : Airdude66, on the B1900s we handled at SVG (for Danish Air Transport), the FO would do all the predeparture announcements. I'm wondering if the instru
28 Airdude66 : Folks....we have just defined cross utilization. That F/O probably makes what 16K-18K
29 Post contains images FedExDC-10 : KaiGwyer: No harm done sir I apologize if my retort was a bit pushy, but people have a tendency to be rather short on this forum and I'm no exception.
30 KaiGywer : Airdude66, and guess how many hours he has. The one I talked to, said he had 550 hrs, and he had been with the company for a while, cause we had seen
31 Post contains images KaiGywer : FedExDC-10, hehe, calling the 1900 noble? After any Shorts airplane, the 1900 must be one of the ugliest planes ever made
32 Airdude66 : A Shorts....now there is a creation that should be the toilet.... or in the toilet!
33 Post contains images KaiGywer : Airdude66, we used to joke that after landing, they would take the wings off and continue on to the hotels as a shuttle bus. Kinda look the same
34 Airdude66 : Well that makes sense. I was mistaken, here I thought they served as railway cars in there previous life.
35 Iahcsr : I have a friend who flies the B1900 out of TPA. He told me of a recent event where a passenger couldn't wait and some how made use of an air sickness
36 Post contains images KaiGywer : Iahcsr, ouch, sounds like fun
37 FedExDC-10 : You know, they say that the non-existent aesthetic value of Shorts aircraft actually contribute to they're aerodynamics. It must be one of those "They
38 Post contains images KaiGywer : FedExDC-10, haha, that's the quote of the day. Hmm, I gotta go meet some flights. I'm at work, and NW 412, 118 and 1715 have landed and their bags are
39 Post contains links and images Skydrol : I have flown on a few of the Air Alliance 1900Ds, and they are a lot of fun to fly in, completely different experience than larger A/C (even DHC-8). I
40 AirxLiban : do they even have interior lighting? My sister flew a continental b1900 from MIA to Nassau (at night) and said that the cabin was dark the whole way.
41 Airdude66 : That is just a built in feature for night flying for passenger comfort. If you want a reading light you must bring your own, same as the lav.
42 FedExDC-10 : Reminds me of my adventures on American Eagle J31s. One time I decided I needed to get up and go to the lav. Upon opening the door, I quickly decided
43 Post contains links and images Skydrol : AirxLiban wrote: >>> do they even have interior lighting? My sister flew a continental b1900 from MIA to Nassau (at night) and said that the cabin was
44 Phatfarmlines : I have a friend who flies the B1900 out of TPA. He told me of a recent event where a passenger couldn't wait and some how made use of an air sickness
45 Post contains images Usnseallt82 : I agree with the previously mentioned thread...BYOP. Bring Your Own Pisser. Besides, most airlines operating 1900's don't have a route long enough to
46 Redngold : I was on a 1h 48m flight on a Continental Express Beech 1900D, I think in 2000. I am one of those "irritable" people, to put it discreetly, and the th
47 FedExDC-10 : 2 hours on a B1900? Oh my God! I'm strapped into a DA-20 for about an hour and half or so and start looking for a place of exit LOL. (Bows in awe of R
48 Post contains images ARGinMIA : Guys.. its not all about pee.. ever heard of the word "DIARREA"? I had to hold it for 1Hour 50 Minutes on a hot and noisy Metro III !!! NEver again I
49 Post contains images Skydrol : ARGinMIA wrote: >>> Guys.. its not all about pee.. ever heard of the word "DIARREA"? I had to hold it for 1Hour 50 Minutes on a hot and noisy Metro II
50 Miles_mechanic : Yes they are definitely a lifesaver, The whole reason that our airline decided to get the lav on our D models when they got them, was because they wer
51 Redngold : Re: 2 hours on a Beech 1900D... Yes, the flight was scheduled 1h 48m as I mentioned, and was ABE-CLE. I was supposed to go CLE-ABE on the son-of-a-Bee
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