744 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 448 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4614 times:
Northwest, Lufthansa, KLM, AirIndia, PIA(Except777), Syrian Air, Dragon Air, Garuda Indonesia, Iran Air, EL AL(742), Thai Airways, Royal Nepal Airlines, Royal Air Maroc, Royal Jordanian, China Airlines (744), Air China, Aerofloat (Except 777), Bangladesh Biman, CZA, Finnair, MExicana.
Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19187 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4443 times:
"Southwest, America's most profitable LCC, does not have PTV's. And passengers flock to their planes anyway."
Because not offering IFE reduces their overall costs, which can be passed onto the consumer in the form of lower prices and thus carry more people. (Because airline prices are elastic, if WN reduced its prices by 10% more than 10% more people would fly.) Most of WN's flights are around 90 minutes in duration, so IFE has only limited appeal anyway. The only real option is to offer IFE, in the form of PTVs, but make passengers pay for it if they wish to watch it.
"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
Worldperks From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4288 times:
--Delta does not use PTV's on their MD-80 fleet.
--Continental does not use PTV's on their MD-80 and 737-500 planes
--USAirways does not use PTV's on their 737 fleet
--American does not use PTV's on their MD-80 fleet
--United does not use PTV's on their 737 fleet.
--Alaska does not use PTV's on their MD-80 fleet
--America West does not use PTV's on their 737 fleet
--AirTran does not use PTV's
LHSebi From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 1049 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3903 times:
Exactly...Phaeton just beat me to it...Lufthansa has had PTV's in all long-haul Business and first classes for a long time! Just economy that they are lacking them. Would you guys actually not fly in an excellent airline like Air New Zealand, or Lufthansa just because they don't have PTV's in Economy?
I guess that's what happens in the end, you start thinking about the beginning.
Oerk From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3872 times:
if an airline with PTVs will fly me on the same route for the same price, Lufthansa and Air New Zealand will not be seeing my money.
Last time I checked, I dont see Lufthansa and Air New Zealand being that much cheaper than alternatives do you? Its all about quality of product - the consumer wants value for money - for me, and many others, PTVs increase that.
Its quite simple, and not a contentious issue in any way.