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User currently offlineFlyABR From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 658 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4505 times:

here is an interesting article about NWA and its DC9s....looks like those diesel 9s will be around yet for quite some time.

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/business/7796417.htm

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User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4431 times:

- FACT: Within a few months, NW will be the largest operator WORLDWIDE of A320-family aircraft.

- FACT: According to NW's 2003 10K report, the average age of their fleet excluding the DC-9 (which would still be nearly as large as CO's entire mainline fleet) is 10.7-years-old -- if you consider that they've taken delivery of many jet jets & retired most of the 742 fleet since then, the age has gone down.

- FACT: most FF would perfer to fly on mainline jets than regional jets... NW's DC-9 pervent their FF from doing such and God knows I'd rather be on a DC-9 than an ERJ.


User currently offlineFlyABR From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 658 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4411 times:

i second that!!! personally i HATE regional jets whether they come from canada or brazil...!!!

and one could infer from this article (like industrialpate has stated over and over again) that NWA will never buy the 717; simply because that plane won't be in production in 2010 when NW decides to start retiring their dc9s...


User currently offlineTekelberry From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1459 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4392 times:

Just to mention, NW's DC9s also have new 717-style interiors.

[Edited 2004-01-28 07:23:50]

User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4378 times:

IMO, I think the fact that NW will be the world's largest A320-family in just a few months is very telling... with most of the DC-9 routes likely to be replaced with RJ in high-frequency, I'd like those birds to stick around as long as possible. While the future of the 742/DC-10 changes daily at NW, I think it's safe to say that the flying those birds do will be solely resort routes...

[Edited 2004-01-28 07:41:45]

User currently offlineTekelberry From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1459 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4361 times:

I take it you're still upset with me over my comments that Consumers of Size should be required to purchase two tickets?

Funny, as I never seem to even remember arguing with you about COS. As you can tell, I re-evaluated my post and edited it.


User currently offlineFlyABR From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 658 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4301 times:

tekelberry,

i'm well aware that NW dc9s have newish interiors...flown em many times.

btw, i really hope CRJs don't take over most dc9 routes cause imo the regional jets just aren't very comfy...and there is no overhead storage worth trying to shove a bag in.


User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4279 times:

What are NWs A32X numbers?

User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4255 times:

It is really fascinating, how many thousand thread starters will only lead to the one and only question: when will NW replace their DC-9 with what?

 Big thumbs up



Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineNwfltattendant From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 341 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4250 times:

SHIP NUMBERS...

A320s...

3201-3206, First 6 320s online at NW... Have a slightly different config. for fueling purposes, fuel panel in access panel at wing root. Fueler stands on ground to access this. All over fuel panel underwing (14-15ft up) accessed by way of lift on fuel truck.

3207-3250 - Remaining A320s in the initial delivery of 50 Airbuses (early-mid 1990s)

3251-3280something.... - Next batch of A320s ordered by NW. These aircraft have the slimline seats in coach. Later numbers (eg ship 3275 have led backlighting on cabin exits and overhead exit signs, looks paper white instead of an incandescent light source).

A319s....

3101-31?? - These are all identical in seating like A320 ships 3251 and higher. Slimline seats, including a slightly different first class seat thats not as plush as the earlier A320s. Least comfortable of the Airbus family at NWA. Avoid the last row as theyre cramped and do not recline. Longest route NWA uses this on I believe is DTW-SJC...blocks at 5:07.. Yeow.... worked it once... feels like a short intl flight.



Go yakkin !!!!!!
User currently offlineLearjet23 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4035 times:

NWA 9's have nice interiours, so do caskets.These old warmed over whores will soon have around 100.000 hours TTAF. Just keep rolling the dice people, the odds always favor nature.

User currently offlineJafa From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 782 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3921 times:

Give it a rest Learjet!!!! NW has safely operated those DC9's and will continue to do so. A bad example of a DC9 operator is Valujet. They had more fires and incidents on thier small fleet of DC9's in a few years than NW has had in the past 20 years on 170+ aircraft. The facts speak for themselves.

User currently offlineWorldperks From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3879 times:

Learjet,

Ever hear of the DC-3? A few of them are still flying along with DC-4s and DC-6s. No doubt, a few of them are operating in your own region.  Laugh out loud



User currently offlineFreshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3863 times:

I believe the article I read said NW wants to get 45 years of service out of them and right now they are at like 33 years or something, prob would be less then 33 year old avg if they got rid of the -10 series.

User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17481 posts, RR: 45
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3846 times:

Pardon me, but I haven't been paying attention to any of these NW DC9 threads....so excuse me if this has been asked before. Were the MD-80s phased out because they were a small fleet and lacked commonality with the DC-9s?


E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3817 times:

So it's the older 320's that have the FC tables all in the armrests, and have the less "curved" shape at the top? If so, I have to say I prefer the newer layout.

I think we've got DTW-SJC, but then it returns to MSP. Outbound, we're down to just 3 SJC-MSP flights  Sad

Steve


User currently offlineFlyABR From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 658 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3775 times:

maverick,

i think your assumptions about the md80 are correct...


User currently offlineWorldperks From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3747 times:

Hey, it's a good thing that our B-52s are only 50 years old.

I was just watching a program on the History Channel that suggested their airframes might be re-engined and returned to service another ten years.

Wouldn't make B-52s 60 years old?

So, Northwest's DC-9s still have half their lives left.  Smile






User currently offlineNwairlinkfo From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3718 times:

Just an observation.....None of NWA's Airlink carriers operate ERJ's. I've been reading this forum for some time now and finally joined because I've found there was a lot of misinformation out there....Continue  Smile

User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3705 times:

Welcome to a.net, NWairlinkfo!

I'm aware NW's airlink partners don't operate the ERJ. My comment ...NW's DC-9 pervent their FF from doing such and God knows I'd rather be on a DC-9 than an ERJ... is referring to how my favorite Houston-based airline that taunts its new fleet continues to replace mainline flights with ERJs...


User currently offlineNwairlinkfo From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3677 times:

First of all, thank you and I have to say that I have really benefited from your posts and I hope that will continue. I wasn't trying to bash you at all, just trying to state the obvious. Thanks for all of your informative posts and hopefully I will be a source of such infomation....Have a good one!

User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3644 times:

No offense taken! And while I don't know whether you fly SF3, CRJ or ARJ (but I'll guess SF3 since you're not "jet" link  Big grin ), let it be known that I don't mind flying on them -- I just prefer mainline jets! Again, welcome!

User currently offlineNwairlinkfo From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3638 times:

Completely understandable.....I just heard that Airlink is going to ban passengers from taking carry-on bags on CRJ's totally.....just a rumor, but from a good source....sorry guys if it's true...I fly the reset jets...(CRJ's). Never flown on the ARJ, but I've heard really good things about it!!

-NWA Forever


User currently offlineAviatortj From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1838 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3629 times:

I take any airlink or mainline at GFK or MSP  Smile/happy/getting dizzy. Welcome NWAirlinkFO!

__TJ__


User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3614 times:

Well, that wouldn't surprise me since they ask that you only bring "personal items" (purse, camera bag, notebook computer, etc.) onboard the CRJ to begin with... of course, there's always some idiot trying to stuff his oversized carry-on that wouldn't even fit in "BigBins" on mainline jets. The ARJ is the favorite fleet type of most NW flyers including myself.... hopefully an A319 will take over FNT-MSP should NW increase the size of the aircraft of phase it out... lol

25 Solnabo : "DC-9 can fly up to 45 years" Puhleezee, spare me the horror!!! I wouldnt fly it tomorrow if i had to, nuf said........ Michael//SE
26 KEESJE : Because of the low cost of ownership, Northwest was one of the most profitable large airlines through most of the mid- to late 1990s. Even during the
27 RayChuang : A couple of comments: 1. The prospect of the FAA enforcing ICAO's new Stage IV noise emission rules will probably doom much of the NW DC-9 fleet, unle
28 ATA L1011 : Ray I was thinking like you if/when they initiate the stage 4 program it may mean the end of the NW 9er's
29 MSPXJGuy : Wow, lots of rumors flying around. That would suck if we weren't allowed carry ons on the CRJs. Thank god I spend most of my time working ARJs. Can ju
30 Post contains images Jano : I, as a NWA customer, confirm. I LOVE ARJs!!!!!!!!!
31 Meister808 : Jano... I agree wholeheartedly. If NWA does in fact go hunting for more ARJs, they are doing well establishing themselves as an airline dedicated to m
32 IndustrialPate : Supposibly NW wants to get their pilots to allow us to fly ERJ170s or buy some off market ARJs. NW has no interest in second-hand ARJ. One could expe
33 BeltwayBandit : Stage IV will not doom the DC9s. Unlike the move to Stage III, the current proposal on Stage IV would grandfather all existing Stage III aircraft inde
34 Mlsrar : 1. The prospect of the FAA enforcing ICAO's new Stage IV noise emission rules will probably doom much of the NW DC-9 fleet, unless NW figures out how
35 Frontiers4ever : With their average age being around 33 are they going to be going through a mid life crisis in the near future? Sorry had to. If its safe why not fly
36 Csavel : I'm curious as to why the DC-9 avoiders avoid them, unless it is something like comfort or seat pitch or noise in the cabin. Are there any objective r
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