777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12642 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4729 times:
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All of Air NZ's B744s will be getting PTVs installed in the next 2 years. Air NZ's B744 each seat 392 seat. When the B744s are being upgraded with PTVs and new cabins and the first class seats will all be taken out in favour of about 30 sleeper Business Class seats
Oz777 From Australia, joined Jun 2000, 521 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4530 times:
777ER has led you astray a little.
Air New Zealand Business class already has PTV (and has had for years). What he is talking about is in the Y cabin (which is not what your question was!!)
I have to agree with TG992. As a (very) frequent user of both NZ and UA between SYD and LAX, my preference is for the UA seats, but if the aircraft is half empty (rare on NZ now) I will take the NZ J cabin anytime. Just for the food and wine and the fact that the FA's are not all over 60!!.
FLYACYYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 1914 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4434 times:
Last April used a reward ticket to fly LAX/NAN/LAX. No reflection on the crew, I found the J/C standard very bland and basic. B744 on both legs.
SEATING - 1st generation J/C seats. Pitch was perhaps no more than 50-55", and all funcitons manual as opposed to electric. PTV the basic industry standard.
CREW - No complaints friendly and accomodating.
IN-FLIGHT SERVICE - Was acutally shocked based on the generally positive feedback I've read on A.Net & Skytrax. 2045 departure ex LAX. NO pre-meal bar service, no hot towel service. Tray Service with mixed Salad and 3 prawns, and entree quality poor (steaks raw, chicken bloody) and in small casserole dish similar to any short-haul North American service. Ice Cream trolley and cheese combined. The entire service took no more than 1 hour. Lights out, and breakfast also a "quick tray" service.
Service NAN-LAX similar sequence, but food quality far superior. Nice quiet lounge at NAN airport as well. I know NZ has won numerous awards for their service, but truly..not impressed.
Carfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1992 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4350 times:
Well, Air NZ's business class is really outdated at best... the seats are pretty basic, but comfortable. However, seat pitch remains as 50" and recline is fairly limited.
However the strength of Air NZ Business is the service -- the F/As in general are friendly and polite. The food is always good... and the wine selection is great. I think it is better than UA by miles... except the seats. Nevertheless with the new seats coming online soon, NZ will be able to return to its top spot on the business class market.