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First US Airways CRJ700 Spotted!  
User currently offlineUsair330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 819 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7293 times:

As I was leaving for work just seconds ago (2:16PM) ... I heard a plane up in the sky and when I looked up I was surprised to see A US Airways CRJ700!!! PHL Photographers take out your cameras and US Airways lovers keep looking up into the sky!

P.S. This is not a joke.... I'm being dead serious! Big grin:D:D:D

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User currently offlineUniTED From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7187 times:

Why are they getting the CRJ-700 if they just recently took delivery of an ERJ-170? They are quite similar, although one is more superrior than the other. (I won't say which one -- I don't want to offend anyone  Nuts)

Chris


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7116 times:

Nice, now they can get rid of those De Havillands. I see them take off at ISP alot, i just feel we don't need to be flying prop jobs commercially in this day and age..With the ERJs there is no reason to..

User currently offlineTekelberry From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1459 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7021 times:

Why are they getting the CRJ-700 if they just recently took delivery of an ERJ-170?

The ERJ-170s aren't even released yet.


User currently offlineUshermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2963 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6983 times:

I will never understand why people here don't like turboprops....

Anyway, that's still good news for USAirways



Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5960 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6827 times:

It's not the ERJ-170
It's the EMBRAER 170!!!!



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6648 times:

Hey Guys,

That exactly I don't see with their pics of CRJ-700 aircraft either and can you someone please send me a link with their pics? Thanks! This is not serious about of their new planes.


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6464 times:

I have nothing against turboprops, just don't feel like paying a commercial airline fare and flying one. This is why Embraer and Canadair are in business. To provide Regional Jets.

User currently offlineUS653 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 161 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6401 times:

Really? I'll have keep my eyes peeled. I didn't realize they were coming online this early. If anyone does have any pics, please post!!

Jeff



US653...PHL-AUA...The best place in the Caribbean!!!
User currently offlineRareBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 553 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6324 times:

NIKV69:

You pay a commercial airfare for the airline to transport you from point A to point B, in a safe and efficient manner. The airline decides what equipment is most efficient for the segment, not you.

Walt



Illegitimus non carborundum
User currently offlineUsdcaguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 871 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6190 times:

No, Walt...it's the customers who decide...with their wallets! They almost always have a choice of carrier when traveling, so in the end the company must decide which aircraft will attract the most passengers. US has already lost market share in some cities because competitors decided to fly regional jets to those places instead of prop jobs.

User currently offlineGoAllegheny From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6076 times:

Personally, I like the DH-8 (or an ATR) more than any RJ, except of course the leg room is a little worse, it seems. I like window seats and watching the world pass by below, and I love the sound of the props. No, I would not want to fly one on a 500 mile flight, or in very turbulent conditions, but on the DCA-Allentown route I enjoyed them immensely.

User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6036 times:

You like the ATR? You like a plane that de-ices it wings by pnuematic boots? That thanks to poor French design caused deaths due to the fact that ice was still able to build up on the wing? Or does everyone forget when every ATR was grounded in 1994. Give me a break, this is 2004, there is no reason on God's green earth we should flying prop jobs.

Thanks Usdcaguy, I am glad there are some people using their brains here, your right, out of my options from ISP to Cleveland I choose CO, they fly 145s. So US Airways loses a customer. You guys want to fly prob jobs, go ahead, Me, I want to live in the 21st Century..

GO EMBRAER!!!


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6030 times:

Why are they getting the CRJ-700 if they just recently took delivery of an ERJ-170?

The same day they placed the orders for the Embraer 170, they placed orders for the CRJ-700.

The ERJ-170s aren't even released yet.

The Embraer 170 has already been issued a 'Temporary Airworthness Certificate.' This will allow USAirways to start crew training and Proving Runs. The first 2 -170 are now ready for delivery and are just waiting for USAirways to pick them up.


[Edited 2004-02-02 02:42:46]


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8494 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5972 times:

Um, actually there are a lot of good reasons why props are still used, number one being that a jet will never be as efficient as a turboprop.

And a LOT of aircraft use pneumatic boots to prevent ice buildup. Many, many more, in fact, than use electrical heat, TKS, or the new technologies like the Premier 1, for example, uses.


User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5939 times:

Yes and they are slower and not as safe as pure Jet power, besides the majority of the public does not want to see propellers when they board a plane, it's the plain truth..Got to change with the times. I also want to see Embraer sell alot of AC, I think they are great..

User currently offlineNlink From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5836 times:

I myself prefer RJ compared to TurboProps. The turboprop I hate the most is the Saab 340, noisy, slow, and weight restricted. If I had to pick a turboprop to fly it would be the DH8-Q200, decent airplane for a prop and not usually weight restricted.

User currently offlineFreshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5769 times:

If it was a CRJ-700 is was a Mesa Jet, flying under the Express colors, I believe that they are supposed to have something like 15 700's in the fleet in the near future.

User currently offlineUsair330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 819 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5677 times:

It was definitely a CRJ700 I know that for a fact! I know what a CRJ200 looks like and I even verfied it on the PHL Webcam when I ran back inside the house to see it land! So again PHL Photographer's keep your eyes open! Big grin

User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3326 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 5656 times:

I dont know....I looked up all the Mesa flts arrive between 6am-3pm today and all the PSA flts between 6am-3pm and not a single CRJ-700.

User currently offlineTiger119 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1919 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5528 times:

Are the CRJ700s actually Mesa aircraft flying as US Airways Express? And are the Embraer 170s US Airways equipment or are they going to one of thier "Express" outfits?


Flying is the second greatest thrill known to mankind, landing is the first!
User currently offlineFreshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5368 times:

Yes the CRJ-700 is a MESA aircraft, the Embraier 170 I believe is a MidAtlantic Airways plane, but there is a tremendous amount of doubt if they will ever fly.

User currently offlineNorthStarDC4M From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2951 posts, RR: 37
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5316 times:
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You like the ATR? You like a plane that de-ices it wings by pnuematic boots? That thanks to poor French design caused deaths due to the fact that ice was still able to build up on the wing? Or does everyone forget when every ATR was grounded in 1994. Give me a break, this is 2004, there is no reason on God's green earth we should flying prop jobs.

I for one don't really care RJ vs Turboprop on segments up to one hour. I will choose my flight based on other factors than prop vs fan. Count yourself lucky if you even have the choice, alot of places do not. There are lots of reasons to be flying on props. Turboprops have a smaller noise footprint, are more efficient on short stages, and in some cases are actually FASTER on short stages.

What does the fact the ATR uses de-icing boots have to do with anything? Sorry to say most props (dating back to pre WW2) and even a few jets use boots. Also, the ATR was grounded yes, but it's flying now, and has redesigned deicing boots which prevent the ice ridge formations that caused Roselawn. ATRs are even flying in the Arctic now, with First Air, and seem to be fairly trouble free doing so. The DC-10 was grounded, the MD-80, 727 and 737 very nearly grounded... i don't see the relevance of it being grounded?

Anyways, good for US getting some CRJ-700s in service. Hopefully it will help the bottom line!



Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
User currently offlineNlink From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5210 times:

Usairways should have let PSA or Piedmont operate the CRJ-700. Mesa will do there normal horrible job of operating an airplane.

User currently offlineFreshlove1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5180 times:

If MESA is doing such a horrible job for USAirways then why is MESA the largest Express operator for USAIRWAYS? 53 Jets and 23 Turboprops, and in a short while PSA will become MESA anyway, and Piedmont and Allegheney are on the verge of being liquidated.

25 A330323X : PSA will operate 25 CRJ-701 aircraft for US Airways Express. Mesa will operate a minimum of 25, and a maximum of 55, CRJ-701 aircraft for US Airways E
26 Nlink : At least they will have 25 CRJ-701 that will be decently run.
27 Freshlove1 : I doubt that you would even know if you were on a MESA 700 or not considering the way the routes are set up, most people think its just a USAirways pl
28 Sjc>sfo : The DH8 has a distinctly roomier feel to it than most turboprops as it's got the 2x2 seating. I frankly findi t comparable to regional jets in choosin
29 Maiznblu_757 : What a coincidence... It just might be the last too...
30 Devil505x : Are they painted in USAirways colors? I would think they would have just painted them white because they will need a new coat of paint in a few months
31 Captaink : I don't know about the mainland US, but in the caribbean, RJ's just would not be very profitable. Our islands are on average 25 mins apart from each o
32 Usair330 : Devil505x... The plane was fully painted in US Airways colors.
33 US653 : I was thinking that it may not be on any schedules because It may be donig some kind of proving/training flights. I also couldn't remember if PSA or M
34 NIKV69 : What does the fact the ATR uses de-icing boots have to do with anything? Sorry to say most props (dating back to pre WW2) and even a few jets use boot
35 Doninfc : Glad to see USAirways making the transition from props to RJs. Walt, you're right about the airlines choosing which aircraft they use to provide a ser
36 Ssides : i just feel we don't need to be flying prop jobs commercially in this day and age..With the ERJs there is no reason to.. Yes, there is. Turboprops are
37 Nlink : I am the same way in general. I will choose to drive usually if I can not get jet service usually. I will usually get my money back if the airline dow
38 NIKV69 : The truth is there is no need for turboprops except for charters. Any commercial airline flying short hops can operate a regional jet. Not every fligh
39 N670UW : The truth is there is no need for turboprops except for charters. Any commercial airline flying short hops can operate a regional jet. This is untrue.
40 NIKV69 : Well if they can't handle RJs on their runways they are obviously a destination that is pretty remote. Turbopops that are flying into these airports a
41 Nlink : A lot of these cities that have turboprops are EAS cities. I for one as a thing if the local communities want air service they need to find a way to f
42 Planemaker : FYI, the Dash 8 interior is in fact bigger than the CRJ. Just slightly wider cabin at the arm rest height but with a much higher ceiling and cabin flo
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