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U.S. Senator Okay's Flight Cancellations  
User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2277 times:

In recent day, several flights to the U.S. have been cancelled from London's LHR. Today, U.S. Senator Jay Rockefeller(D-W. Virginia) on the Senate Intelligence Committee explains that he agrees with the cancellations and that there is more to it than the public knows, in a CNN article...

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/02/01/flights.canceled/index.html

Well, at least they know what they're doing this time.  Big thumbs up


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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2251 times:

Instead of cancelling the flight isn't there a way to catch these individuals? Cancelling flights just makes the terrorists move to another target and next time they will do it without us intercepting the info, I find it hard to believe we have no way to screen luggage for this substance, what are we spending all this money on? This is getting really ugly..

User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2234 times:

This is what I was thinking as well. Under this theory, you'd pretty much have to cancel every trans-continental flight just to make sure that nothing is going to happen. If that happened, the world's transportation system would be in severe gridlock.


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User currently offlineCarduelis From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2001, 1586 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2175 times:

Well, at least they know what they're doing this time.

Do you really, seriously, think that they do? So, by definition, they didn't know what was going on before!

Personally, I don't like some foreigner telling me that it's OK to cancel flights from my country.

My Government, and the very capable British airlines are quite able to make their own decisions.



[Edited 2004-02-01 21:42:44]


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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2150 times:

Apparently, the airlines are also responsible for the cost of reaccomodating pax for a cancellation that they [arguably/in theory] never had to make....  Sad

User currently offlineCarduelis From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2001, 1586 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2117 times:


Yes, ConcordeBoy, they do, and the additional costs associated with eventually getting their passengers to their destination.

Also, the British carriers did not get $ Billions of government money in subsidies for 'Security'!




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User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2099 times:

Usnseallt82 I agree. According to this logic we need to cancel every flight because there is a threat from terrorists. The terrorists aren't going to give up this easily, they'll try for a different target. We need to stop living in fear.

pilottim747



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User currently offlineUshermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2965 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

Hey Carduelis, here in Europe we can't give any money to the airlines for compensation because all the money is going to Airbus and only US airlines were affected by 9/11.
 Nuts



Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offlineCarduelis From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2001, 1586 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2074 times:

Hi Ushermittwoch - post 11 September, the only American carrier to be 'advised' to cancel that I can think of, is Continental from GLA to EWR.

What was the US 'compensation' for? Loss of revenue to US carriers!

We didn't get subsidies in GB, let alone Europe. We even had to pay the very hefty extra 'Security' insurance.




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User currently offlineUshermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2965 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2035 times:

Well as you might have noticed, I wasn't being serious with my comments.
The way the US is acting towards international airlines and travellers is a big joke.
But like I said, as soon as Airbus or Air France do anything this board goes wild.
What a funny world we live in where everything concerning the US is good/the worst possible and everywhere else everything is bad/not worth caring about.



Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1963 times:

Pilottim747, AMEN!

We have to be able to continue these flights and screen the baggage and people, I mean this is what they want, FEAR. There has to be a better way than canceling flights..



User currently offlineCwapilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1166 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1904 times:

Carduelis...may I offer you a little cheese with your WHINE?
If Europeans on this forum are indicative of your continent as a whole, I think it may be wise to invest in laxatives in Europe, as there seems to be a HUGE market and great profit potential...you guys need it.

It was just reported on the television version of CNN and Fox News that a DC-Houston flight was just cancelled for security reasons, another CO flight. I guess if we find some way to spin it, we may find a way in which this was yet another way for the US administration to penalize Europe...  Insane



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User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1883 times:

If only there was a way where the TSA and airport security services could actually scan the cargo and passengers, keep the flights on schedule, and divert terrorism when it comes. Of course, I think Plato called this a Utopia.  Big thumbs up

Until then, and I am in full agreement with previous comments, there cannot be any fear allowed throughout the region. This is probably just as problematic as the 'Utopian' idea, but it needs to be done. The nation has turned into a bunch of scared idiots and unfortunately those same people have the power of the purse when it comes to canceling flights.

In response to another comment, BA is not quite as wonderful as you may think. The only difference is, you guys have had your share of terrorism for many years and KNOW how to handle certain things. Our security system is new and it will take some time to work out the kinks in the line. However, they will get worked out and eventually this will settle down. But, it doesn't matter how much security is present, if someone really wants to undertake an act of terrorism, they'll find a way around the entire thing. Unfortunately, that's the world we live in today.

I'd be happy to see some more capable people in power to make the decisions about our nation's aviation security. However, as long as 'gullible' is the main word to describe the masses, anyone can step into office and the public will undoubtedly follow. Then, that same public opinion is the one that complains first about the long lines at the security check-in stations at the airports.  Big thumbs up

So, to each his own and to his own a, hopefully, better understanding about reality.

Cheers...and go Carolina!  Big thumbs up



Crye me a river
User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1874 times:

Now disregard my last post...Cwapilot put it about as good as it can get!  Big thumbs up

Cheers!



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User currently offlineNIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1794 times:

Well a flight from DC to Houston was canceled, so this European argument is over, this has to stop, we can't give into these cowards. This better safe than sorry attitude is weak, we don't have to technology to screen the baggage and search every person getting on the plane? So they depart an hour late, sure better than canceling the flight..

User currently offlineKlwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2046 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1760 times:

Yep, just found the cancelled flight. The last (and only non-RJ) flight today from IAD to IAH.

User currently offlineUsnseallt82 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 4891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 3 days ago) and read 1712 times:

Maybe it will just take some time for officials to realize that squeezing the fist of security doesn't do anything when the mice of terror aren't in your hand. It would be like shutting down every 7-Eleven because the fear of being robbed was too much to bear. You can't do it...you have to keep on going.

So, I just hope that everything settles in time. Although, I'm sure this will take many more years than we all know. Fear is a person's worst enemy...so yes, terrorism itself has won this battle so far. Maybe not the war, but it sure has put a horrible dent into the cognitive capabilities of America.

Cheers!



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