NIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 16549 times:
Don't think you have to ever worry about a hijackacking on EL AL, I am not sure but I think they have had one attempted hijacking and the hijacker was killed. We need that here in the US. No more flight cancellations please, we can never live in fear..
9V-SVC From Singapore, joined Oct 2001, 1805 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 16502 times:
Air Canada has the safest record.There was one incient, The 767 AC ran out of fuel because of miscalculation of fuel while refilling on the ground. The pilots managed to land the plane safely without the power of the two engines.
Jutes85 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 16437 times:
I believe you are inncorrent about Air Canada. If you count all of the Provincial Air Services that are still technically part of Air Canada, it would rule the carrier out. There were a number of accidents with death tolls over 20 people, one I recall is the one somewhere in Ontario in a DeHavilland Dash.
JeckPDX From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 255 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 16326 times:
Forgot to mention Southwest, America West, and a few others here in the US. Southwest had an incident with an overrun, but no fatalities. I may be mistaken, but I'm almost certain HP has never had a fatality either. As far as intl carriers, Qantas wins it hands down. I also beleive Cathay Pacific has an admirable safety record unlike other carriers in the reigon.
"Beer is proof that God Loves us and wanted People to be Happy" - Ben Franklin
Thrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2691 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 16196 times:
We have no idea really who is and who is not the safest. Fleet age could be a factor, but also the pilots who work for the airline, the terrorist's airline picks, and many other factors determine the answer to this question. In my opinion, the answer cannot be proven. Therefore, I will select no one airline as safer than another. We don't really know anyway.
Cory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2741 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 16151 times:
Although you might want to actually analyze the numbers, I think that most any airline based in a relatively stable nation with a competent equivalent of the FAA would be safe. To me, as long as there have been no incidents pointing to negligence on the part of the airline, I would consider it safe. In Gordon Bethune's book From Worst to First, for example, he says that safety at every carrier is sacrosanct in the fact that they don't take risks with safety. For example, in the US, I would consider most any airline safe - AA, B6, CO, DL, NW (even with the DC-9s), WN, UA, US, HA, AQ (although their aging 732s bother me a little, especially in comparion to HA's 717s), etc.
However, I will NOT fly on AirTran, regardless of what anyone says. Although they may think a name change may erase their past, I have read too many reports of smoke in the cockpit and similar issues (on their new 717s, to boot!) to be convinced that they are as safe as the other majors. The people that work for FL are wonderful I'm sure, and I don't mean to offend anyone, but the constant reports of problems bother me.
Hardkor From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 16134 times:
To determine the safest airline, you have to consider the incident to flight ratio. Yes, Qantas has never had a fatality, but how many flights do they have compared to a larger carrier, such as United or Lufthansa? Same with Air Tahiti. By the way, Air Canada had an F-28 crash in Dryden, ON in 1988 I think. The pilots failed to de-ice the plane, crashed during takeoff.
WingnutMN From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 689 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 16105 times:
I think that of the 5 majors in the US, NW has the safest record. Only one major crash in the last 20 years. DTW in 1986. Son't know about their distant history though. AA, DL, US, and UA all have had a few crashes within that timeframe. Not too sure though on CO. I know they had that DC10 fire a while back, but couldn't recall any fatalities. But world wide, it has to be Qantas. Can't go wrong with a mainly widebody long haul fleet and no fatalities!
Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing! It's a bonus if you can fly the plane again!!
NIKV69 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 16086 times:
AirTran should not be allowed to even operate, what Valuejet did was horrible, and I don't care that Sabre Tech was a sub cont, that was horrible and gross negligence. I wouldn't fly them if you gave me the airline..
May all those poor souls that died haunt Joe Leonard for the rest of his life..
: As a customer, there's really no way of telling whether you're in for a dangerous flight or not, unless you see people sneaking on board with guns. Th
: Is there a website that has all the records (statistically) for most major airlines? I know the FAA has some but they aren't extensive.
: AA safe? Wasn't that widebody crash a result of gross neglect on the part of MX? I thought it was a DC-10...was some time ago.... CO has had its share
: Yes El AL is good, isn't it funny what happens when you arm your pilots? It has nothing to do with arming your pilots. It has more to do with interrog
: It has nothing to do with arming your pilots? Oh yes it does, interrogations are great but our pilots need to be armed. This plus the cockpit doors ar
: As far as the issue with AirTran and ValuJet, aside from the extensive incident list, this could have happened to any other carrier. SabreTech does (o
: Joe Leonard never even worked for Valuejet. He joined AirTran three years after the Flight 532 tragedy.
: Even though El Al is perceived to be one of the safest airlines, I refuse to put my pride and dignity aside to be scrutinized, questioned and terroriz
: My apoligies on Joe Leonard. SabreTech or no SabreTech Vaulejet should have been more on top of things. That was the one of the most avoidable airline
: Out of all those mentioned, Qantas is definitely the safest, especially when you consider how long they've been operating compared to most other airli