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*New* CO Flight Houston IAH-Roatan Honduras  
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16689 posts, RR: 51
Posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3719 times:


"Continental Airlines Announces New Nonstop Service Between Houston and Roatan, Honduras
Monday February 2, 11:04 am ET


HOUSTON, Feb. 2 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Continental Airlines (NYSE: CAL - News) today announced new nonstop Saturday service between Houston's George Bush Intercontinental Airport and Roatan, Honduras, beginning June 12, pending government approval.
Continental will operate a Boeing 737 with space for 12 customers in first class and 112 in coach on the Saturday-only flight to Roatan, located on the northern coast of Honduras and a favorite among scuba, golf and sport-fishing enthusiasts. The flight will depart Houston's Intercontinental Airport at 1:05 p.m. and arrive in Roatan at 2:40 p.m. The return flight will leave Roatan at 3:45 p.m., arriving in Houston at 7:30 p.m.

Framed by tranquil bays and mountain forests, Roatan is a popular gateway for eco-tourism in the diverse tropical region. Scuba Diving Magazine has ranked Roatan as the 10th-best dive destination in the Caribbean and Atlantic. With the addition of Roatan, Continental will serve all the top-10 dive destinations in the Caribbean/Atlantic on a scheduled or charter basis.

Continental Airlines is the world's seventh-largest airline with more than 2,300 daily departures to 126 domestic and 101 international destinations throughout the Americas, Europe and Asia. With 42,000 mainline employees, the airline has hubs serving New York, Houston, Cleveland and Guam, and carries approximately 51 million passengers per year. FORTUNE ranks Continental one of the 100 Best Companies to Work For in America, an honor it has earned for six consecutive years. FORTUNE ranked the company highest among major U.S. carriers in the quality of its service and products, and No. 2 on its list of Most Admired Global Airlines in 2003. For more company information, visit continental.com . "

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040202/dam033_1.html



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16689 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3686 times:

The Airstrip..




Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32173 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3638 times:

Look for American's announcement of Miami-Roatan soon, most likely. No way is American going to let Continental one-up them. Currently in the US-Roatan market, Grupo Taca offers Saturday service from Houston and Sunday service from Miami, and Sol Air offers Friday service from Miami.


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User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6176 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3610 times:

I can also see US Airways making an announcement of a flight to this increasingly popular destination (now that US wants to serve every vacation destination possible ) . That is if they are still around.
AA has let a couple of airlines announce new destiantions in Latin America befor they have-
for ex. Liberia (which they now fly to), and now Roatan- lets see how fast they react.
Chepos



Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlineLatinAviation From Ireland, joined Nov 2003, 1276 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3588 times:

Just stay in the West End area of Roatan and not in French Harbour, that's from experience. Lauda Air Italty/Air Europe used to operate a weekly flight to Roatan, as well, but I am not certain if they still do.

Sol Air used to operate a weekly flight from Dallas on behalf of http://www.roatan.com. It was actually Sol Air's highest load-factor flight but never consistently made money for the airline.


User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3572 times:

It's smart for CO to schedule these once-daily flights later in the afternoon so they can catch all of the connecting traffic. However, why don't they do the same thing for their EWR-Caribbean flights?

With the exception of Port of Spain, which departs at 4:05 PM, why do all the Caribbean flights leave in the window of 8:30 AM to 9:30 AM? Almost no connecting flights can make it to EWR in time for pax to connect to those flights. Why doesn't CO make them easily available for connections? Also, what is the case with that POS flight? Any reason as to why its scheduled for the late afternoon instead of the morning like everything else?

[Edited 2004-02-02 18:46:06]

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32173 posts, RR: 72
Reply 6, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3547 times:

It's smart for CO to schedule these once-daily flights later in the afternoon so they can catch all of the connecting traffic.

IAH-RTB will be once weekly.

With the exception of Port of Spain, which departs at 4:05 PM, why do all the Caribbean flights leave in the window of 8:30 AM to 9:30 AM? Almost no connecting flights can make it to EWR in time for pax to connect to those flights. Why doesn't CO make them easily available for connections?

Why bother? They don't need connections.



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User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3537 times:

So does that mean that Port of Spain needs connections then in order to sustain the service? Almost everyone can get to EWR by the afternoon.

User currently offlineLatinAviation From Ireland, joined Nov 2003, 1276 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3525 times:

The NY-Caribbean market is almost wholly local. You'll notice that AA also schedules early morning departures from JFK to the Caribbean, but most of AA's Miami-Caribbean departures are timed for connections.

POS might well be the exception. I can tell you from my time at AA, that POS was scheduled later in the afternoon to allow connecting petroleum traffic from Europe and parts of the US that had to double-connect (principally Eagle cities in TX and LA). Could be the same for CO out of EWR with the European traffic?


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32173 posts, RR: 72
Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3513 times:

but most of AA's Miami-Caribbean departures are timed for connections.

AA offers mutliple daily flights between Miami and most Caribbean destinations. There are many morning departures as well, especially when the new schedule comes into affect on 1 May 2004. The most profitable passengers on AA's MIA-Caribbean flights are the Miami-originating ones.



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User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1736 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3434 times:

I'm sure thats one reason AA cut many Eagle flights at JFK. Those flights did just fine without the feed. Though AA may bring Eagle service back in the future.


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User currently offlineCmckeithen From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 617 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3434 times:

What a risk. I was in Rotan Honduras in December of 2003 and its not a pretty place to be in. Immediately you get off the cruise ship and all you see is trash, pot-holed roads, and children running up to you begging for money. The airport, is not all better from the city itself. I would risk a flight into Belize City Belize before I would into Rotan Honduras.

However, I believe that if many people (Americans) get the chance to go to Honduras and see what a 3rd world country is like first hand, they will STOP whining about what they dont have and realize that we have it REALLY GOOD here in the states.


User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3424 times:

What exactly do you mean by "risk" a flight to Belize City? I was thinking of going to Ambergris Caye for a week sometime in November.

Is BZE that bad?


User currently offlineLatinAviation From Ireland, joined Nov 2003, 1276 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3405 times:

AA offers mutliple daily flights between Miami and most Caribbean destinations.

Of course they do, but in some markets where they offer only one flight, it is generally timed to connect with the first bank.

The most profitable passengers on AA's MIA-Caribbean flights are the Miami-originating ones.

With the exception of some full fare traffic, you're right, but that's simple airline economics.


User currently offlineCmckeithen From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 617 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3379 times:

BZE is not bad, it was the best port on our whole cruise. I was saying, as a view from the airline stadpoint, I would risk flights into BZE before I would fly into Rotan Honduras.

User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3373 times:

Well CO already flies to BZE, so apparently it hasn't been much of a problem. I wonder if they eventually plan to codeshare with either Tropic Air or Maya Island Air - they will now serve two of their destinations.

User currently offlineCmckeithen From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 617 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3343 times:

Click the link below to see a pic of Rotan Honduras.

http://www.geocities.com/chris_mckeithen/rotanhonduras.html

[Edited 2004-02-02 21:38:48]

[Edited 2004-02-02 21:40:56]

User currently offlineCory6188 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2686 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3286 times:

Well it doesn't look that bad from the picture. Reminds me of an undeveloped Caribbean island. Maybe if I saw pictures of the town up close I would see its state of despair.

On a separate note, to make things easier, you can set up a hyperlink in a post by putting these "<>" at the beginning and end of the web address. Remember to include the http://.

For example, http://www.geocities.com/chris_mckeithen/rotanhonduras.html without the <> is just text.

If you add them like this:
<-http://www.geocities.com/chris_mckeithen/rotanhonduras.html-> (without the dashes at the ends) it becomes a hyperlink like this:

http://www.geocities.com/chris_mckeithen/rotanhonduras.html

It helps everyone who wants to see your photo.  Smile


User currently offlineCmckeithen From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 617 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3257 times:

Thanks for the help with the link. I was trying to figure that one out for the longest time. Thanks again

User currently offlineScottb From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6573 posts, RR: 32
Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 3138 times:

Roatan/RTB makes sense because CO will be able to sell plenty of bulk tickets to dive tour operators. SAHSA used to fly RTB-IAH on Saturdays (when they were still in business) and TACA took over the route afterwards. And most of the dive resorts on Roatan have been trying to convince CO to operate to RTB for years (at least as far back as my second visit to RTB back in 1996 or so). Even selling mostly bulk tickets at $300 or so round-trip would provide an excellent yield compared to most domestic routes. It's much, much, much more convenient to fly directly into RTB than to fly to SAP or TGU and then attempt to connect to RTB on Islena via LCE.

Interestingly, the inhabitants of Roatan and the rest of the Bay Islands primarily speak English as their first language, since the Bay Islands were a British colony well into the 19th century. Their strongest cultural ties are with Belize, Jamaica, and the Cayman Islands, not with the Honduran mainland.

Roatan is *definitely* safer than Belize City. It's not particularly developed; the Honduran government pursued a policy of (at best) benign neglect for decades. With the increasing popularity of scuba diving and sport fishing, the government has taken a greater interest in promoting tourism in the region.


User currently offlineLt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3083 times:

sidenote: BZE is a fine little airport, you should have no problems.. Though if you are flying to other spots in the country, take the muni airport as it can be cheaper on Maya Island, or Tropic air. There are several flights a day from IAH to BZE on CO and TACA.

Ditto what scotttb said BTW.

Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
Capt-AWACS, Yankee Air Pirate


User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3175 posts, RR: 19
Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3054 times:
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Good news for Honduras, and for Continental with their expansion into South America... 124 seats, presumably a 737-500?

JBLU


User currently offlineScottb From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6573 posts, RR: 32
Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3043 times:

Nope, the 735 only seats a bit over 100. It'll be either a -300 or -700, probably depending on what's operationally available.

Honduras isn't in South America (it's in Central America).


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