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User currently offlineCmckeithen From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 617 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2523 times:

Increase in travelers bucks national trend

Tuesday February 03, 2004

By Matt Scallan
Kenner bureau

Although it was a tiny move, passenger traffic at Louis Armstrong International Airport last year posted the first increase since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks brought the air travel industry to a standstill.

The increase was about three-tenths of 1 percent, but airport officials said any increase compares favorably with a 2.7 percent decline nationwide, as reported by the Air Transport Association, a trade group that represents airlines.

In all, 9.28 million travelers passed through Armstrong's terminals last year, up from 9.25 million in 2002.

Though last year's total was 6 percent less than in 2000, the airport's busiest year, Aviation Director Roy Williams is optimistic about this year.

"Based on the strong numbers we had in October, November and December, I'm expecting a strong percentage increase in the single digits this year," he said.

Armstrong was the nation's 40th-busiest airport in terms of the number of passengers boarding planes in 2002, the latest year for which comparable data are available, according to the Federal Aviation Administration.

Though Southwest Airlines, the airport's market leader with a 31 percent share, posted little growth, other carriers significantly boosted their passenger totals. AirTran showed a 13.2 percent

increase in passengers, followed by American and American Eagle, with a 12.9 percent increase.

Williams said that United Airlines' low-fare carrier, Ted, will begin service to Armstrong soon, and that he thinks Song, Delta Air Lines' entry into that market, will begin serving the airport next year as well.

Even though passenger traffic was flat, airlines' increasing use of smaller "regional jets" led to an 11 percent increase in takeoffs and landings at the airport in December and a 2.1 percent increase for the year. Regional

jets, which have 50 to 90 passenger seats compared with 150 on a traditional passenger aircraft, are cheaper to operate and can add flexibility to airline schedules.

The number of air carrier flight operations in New Orleans increased from 116,708 in 2002 to 119,127 last year.

The amount of air cargo passing through the airport in 2003 dropped 3.9 percent to 80,831 metric tons compared with 2002.



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User currently offlineVC745D From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 214 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2503 times:

three-tenths of one percent--I still don't think you're going to see alot of DL 777s at MSY....

User currently offlineCmckeithen From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 617 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2481 times:

I was not going there with this post. ASSUMPTIONS.

User currently offlineCmckeithen From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 617 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2477 times:

Since you brought up DL 777's, what baffels me is that CO has more 777 than DL. You would think that since DL and CO are codeshare partners, you would see them using thier 777's together. DL only has 7 777's where as I think CO has 22.

User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2458 times:

Chris,
FYI, same topic:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1382329.

Also, I tried to reply to your email, but it got sent back to me as undeliverable. The answer to your question is "nobody that I know of currently".

Tom at MSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offlineCmckeithen From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 617 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2441 times:

Thanks for the imput Tom and the answer to my question. I will keep trying to apply to the airlines.

User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2425 times:

I was not going there with this post. ASSUMPTIONS.

I totally agree! Here's the service I think MSY is entitled to:

AA:
777 to LIT

UA:
744 to BTR

DL:
777 to SHV

NW:
744 to LFT

CO:
777 to AEX

US:
333 to MLU


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2403 times:

You would think that since DL and CO are codeshare partners, you would see them using thier 777's together

DL and CO are competitiors, they cannot share material in such a manner.

That, and CO's 772ERs are GE90 powered, whereas DL's use the Trent800


User currently offlineCmckeithen From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 617 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2400 times:

IndustrialPate you are so rude to everyone on this fourm. I mentioned nothing about 777's to MSY in this post. It happens that VC745D stated his opinion about 777's at MSY. I replied back to him saying (well if you read the posts) you will see what I replied back to him. But obvisouly you don't, so here is what I said back to him "I was not going there with this post." There being 777's to MSY. So get your facts straight before you start laying into people. Your reply was TOTALLY uncalled for and directed to the wrong person. But if you want a comment from me about 777's at MSY heres one:

I bet by 2006 we will have 777's to MSY if not earlier.

[Edited 2004-02-03 20:47:00]

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2380 times:

hmm, we have 'em all the time... just never mainline scheduled (yet)  Big grin

User currently offlineCmckeithen From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 617 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2376 times:

We have what? 777's here all the time.

User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2355 times:

Oh come on now IP...UAL could fill a 744 to BTR on Friday evenings during LSU football season!  Smile

Cmckeithen, yes, we have had numerous 777 visits here, all charter flights or diversions. I wouldn't hold my breath for scheduled 777 service into MSY by 2006. Perhaps 7-10 years down the road, but not by '06. Look for more 757/67 flying before we see the big boys.


Steve/New Orleans


User currently offlineVC745D From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 214 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2355 times:

Cmckeithen--you're an easy one to tease. I was born on Prytania St, remember flying Capital and others from the original quonset hut, spent many days hanging out at MSY from the time I could take a streetcar and two buses to get there, all the while dreaming of NOLa becoming a major destination, with 707s (of which there were few) and DC8s nonstop to everywhere on earth. Once I moved to NYC after college in 1979 I realized that as much as I love it, N.O. is a small city. If you want big planes, move to a big city. At least until 2006.

User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2339 times:

The market here currently is not suited for scheduled 777 service. Should, and I reiterate should, an airline choose to start a Europe nonstop, it would probably be with 763ER or A332 equipment. The 777 has way too many premium seats for our market. Sure the economy section could probably fill, but not up front.

As far as I would LOVE to see 777's here on a daily basis, our population and business base is not at the level for it to remain feasible at this time.

Give it time. As VC745D said, we are not a big city in the grand scheme of things, but what it boils down to is this: Having a certain type of aircrft fly to your airport does not make the city a better or worse place.  Smile


Steve/New Orleans





User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2302 times:

Give it time...

NOLA is currently the USA's 4th largest O&D market without scheduled transoceanic service, and its largest O&D market that's not a hub for any airline.


That aside.... I can also tell you that you jussst might get your wish, and well before 2006. Only "problem" is, the particular route being considered is NOT international, but still a 777 nonetheless  Big grin


User currently offlineTrey From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 250 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2293 times:

what is the route being considered for 777 service?
HOU, ATL?


User currently offlineCmckeithen From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 617 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2257 times:

Its all rediculous. Yall can tell me that we are situated between the IAH, DFW and ATL markets. Yall can tell me that its not all about pax's. Yall can tell me that I am out of my mind. But that won't set my mind in a different direction. We can and we will support 777 service (and whatever big boys yall want to call it). I see this happening by 2006. And we will also see more international travel by 2006 or 2007.

Every one is just afraid to admit that we will see this happen rather quickly. It is not un-realistic.

To tell you the truth...I believe that CO should operate a 777 from MSY-EWR on one of thier daily non-stop flights. If not that a 764 or even a 753. Since DL opereates 763 to ATL from MSY, CO should operate 7674's from MSY-IAH.

[Edited 2004-02-04 02:05:40]

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2240 times:

CO should operate 7674's from MSY-IAH

CO already operates 753s here, which have only 13 less seats, but are much more closely suited to our market style.


User currently offlineVC745D From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 214 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2225 times:

Once the idiots at CO wake up and realize the gigantic overlooked potential of N.O. by putting 20 777s a day EWR-MSY I'll still look for a n/s from LGA first. I don't know anyone in NY who'd fly anywhere from EWR or JFK if they couldn't get on a n/s from LGA, especially on a short trip such as NYC-MSY.

User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2207 times:

Cmckeithen,
Yall are so right. I believe VS should operate an A380 MSY-CWL!


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