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WestJet's Summer Schedule & Scheduled Transborder  
User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2959 times:

FEBRUARY 4, 2004 - 13:57:26 ET
CALGARY, ALBERTA--WestJet today announced the introduction of its 2004
summer schedule, including the addition of 120 non-stop flights per week
between cities throughout its current network and the introduction of
scheduled transborder service in the fall.

WestJet's new summer schedule will be introduced in four phases with new
services commencing on the following dates: May 1, 2004, June 15, 2004,
June 26, 2004, and July 5, 2004. A complete list of WestJet's schedule
changes is available in the accompanying Schedule Change Backgrounder.

WestJet will begin transborder service from Canada to destinations in
the United States commencing in early October 2004, offering regular
scheduled service between Canada and Los Angeles, California; Ft.
Lauderdale, Florida; and Orlando, Florida. In the fourth quarter of
2004, WestJet will also add seasonal scheduled service between Canada
and Phoenix, Arizona and Palm Springs, California.


Clive Beddoe, WestJet's President, CEO and Executive Chairman,
commented: "I am very pleased to announce the further details of
our 2004 schedule enhancements. With the addition of these flights,
WestJet will offer a very strong schedule of service from the cities of
Montreal, Toronto, Halifax, and Vancouver. As of July 5, 2004 WestJet
will be operating 1700 weekly departures, offering 240 city pairs and 24
destinations.

"Beyond the enhancements we are making to our domestic schedule,
the timing is now ideal for WestJet to begin transborder service.
Canadians have been asking WestJet to provide our low fares and unique
service into the United States for many years. We are now at a stage in
our growth where transborder service is a prudent, logical next step.
Our schedule will offer convenient service to the cruise ship markets in
Florida, the theme parks and warm weather of California, and the golf
and sun destinations of Arizona."

Details of the departure cities for the United States destinations and
the date that flights for these routes will go on sale will be provided
in the coming weeks pending airport negotiations. With today's summer
schedule enhancements, WestJet will utilize six new Boeing
Next-Generation 737-700 aircraft.

WestJet currently operates a fleet of 45 Boeing 737 aircraft, 26 of
which are state-of-the-art Next-Generation 700-series aircraft equipped
with leather seats and enhanced legroom. WestJet will be installing live
seatback satellite TV on its entire fleet of 737-700 aircraft with
completion expected by mid-2004. By the end of 2004 WestJet will be
operating a fleet of 36 737-700 series aircraft and 18 737-200 series
aircraft.




[Edited 2004-02-04 20:55:28]


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33 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2933 times:

Here's a link to the Press Release;

http://www2.ccnmatthews.com/scripts/dnrp/release.asp?d=/cnrpxml/2004/2/4/211763_1_0204200424046PM.xml&t=WJA



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User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5251 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2916 times:

It would be nice if WestJet also included some northern U.S. cities, such as New York and Chicago. Out of ORD, AA only flies to YUL, YOW, YYZ, YYC, and, seasonally, YVR. UA only flies to YYZ and codeshares with Mapleflot to the other Canadian destinations.

WestJet could do for transborder flying what WN and TZ have done for domestic flying.


User currently offlineSuperdawg From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 347 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2887 times:

Not only do the majors (Air Canada, Alaska (YYC/YVR-LAX) etc.) have to watch out for Westjet, but Ft. Lauderdale and Orlando will more then likely be served from the east so Jetsgo and Canjet will have to watch out as well.

User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4983 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2870 times:

This is the official word for the YUL station:

Highlights:
New routes to YWG/YQM/YYZ
-YYZ 7 new flights
-YWG 1 flight
-YQM 1 flight
-YVR 2 flights now
-YYC 1 flight + 1 extra freq on Sundays
-YHZ 1 flight.

13 daily flights!! This up from 6 flights!

The highlight will be nice to see 3 WS planes on the ground at the same time at around the 730p hour.  Big thumbs up

Go WS!

Mark


User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2860 times:

Not bad for a uni-dimensional company.......  Nuts


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User currently offlineWestjet_8 From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 451 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2815 times:

What Canadian cities are these routes going to be from? Calgary hopefully.


Canadian. RIP 1999
User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4983 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2797 times:

I fear WS may be over-ambitious, especially trying to kick SG and AC off YULYYZ where they have a combined 35 daily flights.

Mark


User currently offlineA340pilot From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2784 times:

Does this announcment mean that WN, F9, Jetblue, and spirit will have to compete with WS and start flying to Canada? I could see F9 doing it as right now they has service in Mexico!

Best regards,
a340pilot



Go! Canucks Go!
User currently offlineCanadaEH From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 1341 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2758 times:

Hey Mark, its not 35 weekly flights, not 35 daily.

Summer changes/highlights include (in weekly departures)

Changes Effective May 1, 2004:
Ottawa to Vancouver 0 flights to 7
Vancouver to Ottawa 0 flights to 7
Vancouver to Saskatoon 1 flights to 6
Saskatoon to Vancouver 1 flights to 6

Changes Effective June 15, 2004:
Ottawa to Toronto 34 flights to 40
Toronto to Ottawa 34 flights to 40
Vancouver to Toronto 19 flights to 26
Toronto to Vancouver 20 flights to 27

Changes Effective June 26, 2004:
Toronto to Victoria 0 flights to 7
Victoria to Toronto 0 flights to 7
Halifax to Calgary 0 flights to 7
Calgary to Halifax 0 flights to 7

Changes Effective July 5, 2004:
Montreal to Vancouver 7 flights to 14
Vancouver to Montreal 7 flights to 14
Montreal to Toronto 39 flights to 46
Toronto to Montreal 39 flights to 46
Calgary to St. John's 0 flights to 4
St. John's to Calgary 0 flights to 4
Calgary to Moncton 0 flights to 3
Moncton to Calgary 0 flights to 3



EH.
User currently offlineFLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4983 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2747 times:

CanadaEH.

I said that on peak days, SG and AC together have close to 35 daily flights.. AC offers anywhere from 24-28 pending operational days, and SG has 8.

Mark


User currently offlineWrenchBender From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1779 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

Still no flights to YXY or YZF though, WS is missing out on a lot of traffic by not serving the North of their own country.
If you can get them out of the north for a decent price people would be more willing to use WS for the rest of their trip.
I am looking forward to see what they do next.....



Silly Pilot, Tricks are for kids.......
User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2693 times:

I wouldn't doubt that they've considered it, WrenchBender..... but perhaps the yield isn't there for service with a 737-700.... especially not when WestJet would be competing with Air North and Canadian North on the same routes, and Canadian North has a 732 Combi which can increase the return with cargo, much more than WS can with their current 737-700s.


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User currently offlineWrenchBender From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1779 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2667 times:

Goose.
But if they set up service to cover the mine rotations at Ekati and Lac du Gras (2 weeks in 2 weeks out) Thursday is rotation day for most people they can easily fill a -700.
I lived up there for 3 years and prices were between Can $500 and $1350 just to get from YZF to YEG. Not a lot of cash left to go anywhere else after that. I agree that First Air and Canadian North provide a valuable service but they have limited service if you want to connect out of YYC or YEG.

WrenchBender



Silly Pilot, Tricks are for kids.......
User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1726 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2590 times:

I guess, WJ is after the holiday market. These are all destinations that Canada 3000 used to fly to (LAX PHX and Florida).

The florida flights..... They will be too much competition. JETsgo, AC, CanJet, Air Transat, Skyservice and all the US carriers offer cheap flights there. What kind of yields are they planning to generate.

The California and Arizona markets.... I am not sue how much money they can make. You just need to count how many flight to Cali there are from YYC and YVR.

Phoenix .. two flights a day to YYC on HP and one A310 on AC. CRJ 900 from PHX to YEG and two HP flights daiklt to YVR.

Clive is losing it. Unless he expects to drive all these carriers out of those markets.....


I have said this before and I will say it again... WJ is digging its own grave


User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2559 times:

Ah but Clive & CO could strike gold by serving Florida where the others don't, or do serve, but serve poorly. In other words, the YOW's, YXU's, YQG's and YHM's of the world.

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16285 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2543 times:

I fear WS may be over-ambitious, especially trying to kick SG and AC off YULYYZ where they have a combined 35 daily flights.

Naw....WS is moving incrementally into YYZ-YUL...they will continue to add addl dailies as more traffic comes their way. Unless the market grows, AC will see their biggest route shrink. Initially, the WS presence will be relatively small.

As for the US, I'm surprised that EWR, LAS and MDW were not mentioned. Im sure this transborder expansion will have AC quaking. If WS adds LAX from YYZ, YYC and YVR, it will do major damage to LAX for AC.








Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1726 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2517 times:

YOW,

You really believe that WJ will be operating flights to the US from secondary airports. I don't think so...


User currently offlineYOW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2517 times:

Just like they've done on YOW-YYZ, widebodies on YUL-YYZ will become further reduced if there isn't an increase in traffic. But remember, WestJet is historically known as a traffic stimulator.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cyowspotters/


User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1726 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2502 times:

YOW,

These markets are already saturated.... And as it is now, there's plenty of cheap flights.


User currently offlineCanadaEH From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 1341 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2477 times:

Who are you to say that WJ won't do well on those routes? I think a CEO of an airline would have a better idea on where to fly his planes than you would..


EH.
User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1726 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2461 times:

CanadaEH
We shall see how long before WJ records its first losing quarter


User currently offlineSebwhite From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2438 times:

LAX-Canada is a huge market. In fact, there are only four cities in Canada that have a larger Canadian population than exists in Los Angeles!

User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2417 times:

Clive seems to have a solid team of advisors and planners behind him, not to mention a reputation and brand recognition second to none among airlines in Canada; if anyone in the Canadian industry is to make a solid, profitable go of transborder service.... it'll most likely be WestJet.

I don't think this spell the end of WestJet's winning streak; just because they take more risks than you would doesn't mean much - they've been a rounding success so far. They're pretty careful about their growth, but again.... they take risks. Some have paid off big. Some, not so well - but WestJet has always been able to evaluate risk and not be afraid to figure out when the yields don't justify continued service; read YSB, YAM and YBR. They're quite cost-conscious in that regard...... as well as in their operational side.



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User currently offlineLasbagman From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2353 times:

I used to work for Canadi>n in PSP. (Palm Springs, California ). Our flights were
always full . Canadi>n flew of course only during fall through spring, but we had good loads. Its nice to see transborder service returning to PSP.


25 Post contains images ScottysAir : Also, this is very good news for WJ is going to FLL & PHX flight, too. It would be wonderful news for the canadian passengers goes to PHX & FLL, too.
26 YOW : YOW, You really believe that WJ will be operating flights to the US from secondary airports. I don't think so... Yegbey1, nope, I didn't say I believe
27 Gmonney : Where will WS fly MCO or SFB in Orlando? I was just in Orlando and took SG and i was not impressed, among other stories of theirs that i will not get
28 CanadaEH : What I'd like to know is who is going to do our ramp and our customer service. Will we contract it out WFS/Globeground style or will we have JetBlue/S
29 CanadaEH : Gmonney, some articles I've read today state that the airports have yet to be determined. Los Angeles has a couple to choose from as well (LAX, ONT, L
30 Yegbey01 : CanadEH, There's also Orange County (Anaheim).
31 Hockey55dude : Is WestJet planning on flights to San Diego? Flights To Calgary would be great!
32 Goose : What I'd like to know is who is going to do our ramp and our customer service. Will we contract it out WFS/Globeground style or will we have JetBlue/S
33 Sebwhite : AS already flies PSP-YVR on weekends.
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