RedEye From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 79 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2598 times:
When both airports complete their international expansion projects, which city do you think will experience the most growth in international carriers/traffic?
Even though DFW is building a massive new terminal, it seems IAH will actually still have more international gates since all of Terminal D and E will be connected to the new FIS complex. This would give IAH 35 gates (23+12) vs. DFW's 23, correct?
Many analysts (and previous threads) have predicted significant European and Asian growth for DFW and African and Middle Eastern expansion for IAH. The future OneWorld vs. Skyteam competition between these 2 airports should also make for some interesting growth. Thoughts?
Ssides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 23 Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2436 times:
IAH will probably take the lead as CO expands further into Latin America. Unlike AA, CO doesn't have another southern-US hub from which it can route traffic southward. AA will probably grow in Latin America as well, but this traffic will be mostly routed through MIA.
As far as international carriers are concerned, I wonder what type of "expansion" you guys are talking about. If you think DFW and IAH are going to start looking like LAX, JFK, MIA, or even ORD, I'd suggest you reconsider. The expansion/construction of both aiports' international terminals will likely bring some new international service, but international growth will not be exponential. I'd say DFW might attract 2-4 international carriers over the next 10 years (Cathay Pacific or Eva Airways, Qantas, Air France maybe), whereas IAH's international growth will mostly come from new CO routes. I'm always hopeful that both these airports will attract new international service, but the reality is a bit sobering. Given the current economic climate, don't get your expectations up too high.
Bartond From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 788 posts, RR: 3 Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2428 times:
AA61, I asked this same question about China Eastern a while back and did not get a reply but I think it is supposed to start in the next week or two. I thought one of the news stories said that it would be Feb. 10th or 14th but it might be early March before the MD11 shows up here.
As far as DFW vs. IAH I think Concorde is probably right - the oil industry will continue to feed international pax to Houston so they will probably get a few middle eastern and/or asian carriers at IAH. Maybe Korean will startup service there or continue on from DFW due to CO's involvement with Skyteam carriers. As far as DFW is concerned, it won't be an influx of new carriers but I'm betting they'll announce one or two new carriers when the int'l. terminal opens - I'm guessing JAL and Eva, whom there have been quite a few rumblings about starting up a combi/pax service to DFW. Eva came here a few years ago with cargo service and now controls about 17% of the international cargo to DFW. Korean cargo grew 25% over last year so maybe they'll consider an extra flight or two a week with 744 combis. The only other carrier that seems like it might warrant service is QF, but if they ever come I doubt it would be more than 3x weekly - there's just not enough potential business to warrant a daily 744. And if they can get the rights and if the cargo service does as well as expected, maybe China Eastern could try pax service.
Whatever happens, you can bet AA will try to sideswipe any carrier that tries to startup service to DFW, unfortunately. Should be interesting.