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Question On SAS 737 Fleet/destinations  
User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2182 posts, RR: 13
Posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3148 times:

I have a question on Scandinavian's 737 fleet. They operate the -600, -700 and -800 series. Is there any pattern as to in which country they are registered (e.g. Denmark all the 600s, Norway all the 700s, etc; or each country has a mix of them), and is there any pattern as to the routes on which they are used? I seem to see the -600s used out of Stockholm a lot on both intl and domestic routes, but what about the others?

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User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2182 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3120 times:

Actually, what I forgot to add to my question.

Am I right in observing that the -700s are operated mostly out of Oslo?
Why is the medium and shorthaul traffic out of CPH mostly on MD-8xs and MD-90s rather than on the 737NGs?


User currently offlineBMAbound From Sweden, joined Nov 2003, 660 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3101 times:

Yes, I very rarely spot a -700 at ARN. They stick to Norway usually.

Also, I belive the SAS aircraft are registered (or insured??) according to this system:

Sweden: 3/7
Norway: 2/7
Denmark: 2/7

This info is rather old, so please correct me if anything is wrong.

johan



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User currently offlineFlyboy_se From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 812 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3082 times:

http://www.sasflightops.com
there they have all the info and regs on sas fleet

most aircraft operating out of stockholm are norwegian or dansih registered.



I prefer to be crazy and happy rather than normal and bitter
User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3805 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3072 times:

For information concerning the number of each 737NG type in the SAS fleet, and country of registry, go to airfleets.net. From their home page, select search by operator, and type in SAS. If their 737s follow the pattern of other types operated by SAS past and present, registrations are changed periodically -- probably to maintain the resepective ownership ratios of Denmark, Norway and Sweden.

From the fairly extensive research I have done, the -600s are the main 737 type used by SAS on routes from BGO/OSL/CPH/GOT/ARN to international destinations. Except for -800s allocated to Snowflake or operating charter flights, the -800s are seldom seen outside of Scandinavia. The -700s are operated on a handful of routes outside of Scandinavia and are, indeed, used primarily within Norway (perhaps for their outstanding high altitude/short runway performance?)


User currently offlineTavve From Sweden, joined Sep 2003, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3005 times:

I just have my own experience to refer to. When I fly SK from GOT it's almost always a 738 domestic or an MD90 international.

http://www.sasflightops.com could have been a good site but the info seems to be from the stone age. Well, at least it's far too old to be reliable.



GOT, that's where I live
User currently offlineGOT From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 1912 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2929 times:

Both -600 and -800 are configured in both domestic and European configuration, operating out of ARN, CPH and OSL. The -700 was mainly bought because of its good field performance, to operate from short and slippery runways in northern Norway.

As a side note: the system with 3/7 registered in Sweden and 2/7 each in Denmark and Norway has been scrapped. Nowadays, SAS register the plane where it is cheapest. For example, it is cheapest to import new a/c to Sweden, but since the Swedish rules doesn't allow sale and leaseback deals the a/c are re-registered in Norway for this transaction. I also believe that taxes and other costs are generally cheaper in Norway.
If you have a quick look at sasflightops you will notice that a majority of SAS' a/c are registered in Norway, but only a small minority in Sweden.

The 3/7, 2/7, 2/7 rule is dead!

Cheers,
GOT



Just like birdwatching - without having to be so damned quiet!
User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2182 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2890 times:

What do you mean by "domestic" and "European" config? Don't they have the same seats and just remove the separation curtain when they use as a single class plane on domestic routes? What other differences are there b/w the two configs?

User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2883 times:

What´s bugs me is this: why did SAS get A321 when they got B738???
I mean, the configuration is (nearly) the same, or?
And have the SASboard decided what a/c it will be in the 100-seaterclass?
Reading "Flygtorget & Flygrevyn" but nothing in there.....
Hjälp mej, snälla!
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Michael//SE



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User currently offlineGOT From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 1912 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2845 times:

@ Mozart:
The different configurations have different seat-counts. For the 738 the Euroversion is 156 and domestic 179 seats, while the 736 takes 91-103 in Euro and 116-134 in domestic configuration.

@ Solnabo:
The A321 was chosen to fly on SAS' heavier routes, between the Nordic capitals and on trunk routes in Europe such as LHR, CDG, FRA, AMS and so on. However, only this week a rumour popped up that SAS was looking for a new home for these a/c, while another rumour says they decided to keep them for now due to the soft market.
Another rumour says that SAS won't participate in the Star-order for regional jets after reaching an agreement with pilots to fly 30 736s under RJ-terms.

What will happen... Only time will tell.

GOT



Just like birdwatching - without having to be so damned quiet!
User currently offlineFlyboy_se From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 812 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2787 times:

The 737-800 that are configured in the euro version are flying the snowflake flights.They only have 4 of them left.The domsestic configurated 737-800 fly mostly swedish domestic flights and ski charters in the winter aswell as some intrascandinavian flights.
on euro versions they have transformable seats that can go from 3-3 to 2-3.on domestic version its fixed seats that cannot be changed.On Md 80 s and Md90 the seats are the same



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6568 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2788 times:

I was looking at flights from ARN to OSL and almost every flight is currently a 73G so they do make it out of Norway.

The777Man



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User currently offlineMikkel777 From Norway, joined Oct 2002, 370 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2762 times:

777Man, not almost every flight is 73G. It seems to be a 50/50 mix of 737 and MD80 at the moment. I've never seen a 73G on the OSL-ARN route, but I don't say it never happens. It's probably a mix of MD80, MD90, 321, 736, 738 and it varies over time. I think amadeus shows all the flights as 737, not 736, 73G and 738 as it did before

User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6568 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2688 times:

Mikkel777: yes, the CRS show the 736, 73G and 738 all as "737". However when I booked flights in Apollo and looked at the seatmaps, most of the 737 flights ARN-OSL on the 19 Feb, were 73G. This seemed to be the same on other days that I checked in the same timeframe. I'm sure the equipment varies a lot from month to month but February seems to be a good month for SK 73G's at ARN.


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User currently offlineHeisan67 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2599 times:

And to make the picture totally confusing:

SAS will try to make OSL the hub for their 737, ARN and CPH will have MD and Airbuses.

SAS register the aircrafts were the taxes are lowest (naturally), and for some reason Norway is the cheapest at the moment.

SAS B737-700 bought to serve slippery runways in Northern-Norway?? SAS only fly 3 flights between Oslo and Northern-Norway. Braathens on the other hand fly approx. 26 return-flights from Oslo to Northern-Norway each day. Braathens use B737-400-500-700.


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