Mark_D. From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4100 times:
I guess it's still too soon to say what the overall count worldwide is going to be -- probably at least a dozen or so airports still taking a 'wait and see' attitude since they're not even sure if they're even going to get A380 flights in or not. But in Montréal's case anyway it looks like the airport -- after some four decades straight of having almost consistently bad luck and timing and even stupidity with the airport infrastructure decisions made -- seems to be finally on a roll now the other way with current construction plans and their suitability both now and into the future.
The transborder pier opened up almost exactly a year ago was one of the first major pieces of world airport infrastructure to cater to post-Sept.11 U.S. Department of Homeland Security requirements almost from the ground up , and in addition it's just about tailor-made for the traffic mix it gets and may ever be expected to get (a few turboprops at the back end, a few small mainline narrowbodies at the main facade, and a whole pile of RJ traffic in-between).
And now with the new adjoining new International pier adjoining it, due to open in about sixteen months' time, the gate and lounge facilities for the soon-to-be AF A380 gate just about being enclosed by windows and insulation by the workers now. YUL-CDG is supposed to be one of the very first --if maybe even the first -- A380 route going, so getting the gate infrastructure ready by the middle or even third quarter of next year will fit in nicely if the plane's ready for service in time for the summer rush of 2006.
For the airport runways and taxiways it seems there'll be almost no accommodation work to do for it, as taxiway echo is super-wide right now (it used to be a runway itself once), and for the runway they'll almost be forced to use 11,000ft 24R/06L exclusively which should be good enough, as is. The turnbacks at either end seem wide enough for an A380 right now, as well.
So all in all at YUL the A380 capability seems quite well-integrated with the current construction work underway generally.
A3xx900 From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4069 times:
Since Lufthansa ordered some of them, they designed the new Terminal 2 at MUC to accommodate the A380. I'm not sure tho if T1 is capable of handling it so other airlines than Star Alliance can fly the A380 to Munich. But there won't be a market to do this in the near future anyway.
But, MUC is ready for the big bus!
Fuffla From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4074 times:
Thanks for the information Mark, it was very helpful. Sydney Airport knows it will get A380 traffic because it is the QANTAS main hub and is probably prepared to make adjustments. If anyone knows anything about A380 arrangments and Sydney Airport, please inform me!!!
FLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3762 times:
What do you mean by "ready" ? Terminal ? jetways ? Taxiways ?
Concerning CDG, runways & taxiways have already been enlarged. The new terminal 2E has already 2 parking stand especially designed for the A380 where jetways can be positioned on both decks.
The new extension of Terminal 2E, called Satellite S3, is under construction and will be designed to receive additional A380's parking stand. It is scheduled to enter service in 2006, with the A380 for AF
Jcded From Switzerland, joined Jan 2004, 213 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3605 times:
The new Terminal E (Midfield Dock) at Zurich's "Unique" airport (no idea how they came up with that name) was designed to accomodate A380s at the 4 corners of the terminal. The thing is I don't see who would want to fly a 380 in to ZRH, almost half the airport is closed to traffic due to over capacity.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8016 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3540 times:
At SFO, the new International Terminal (Concourses A and G) are ready to handle the A380-800, thanks to gates at the end of both concourses that have 80 x 80 meter spacing and jet bridges that took into account the size of what was then called the Airbus A3XX. The reason is simple: when the new International Terminal was being designed and built one of the important considerations was accommodation of future larger airliners, and given that by 1997 the A3XX had pretty much settled into its current A380 configuration the architects of Concourses A and G were able to include the 80 x 80 meter gates. Having seen those gate areas (pre 9/11/2001), they could probably upgrade easily to accommodate dual-level jet bridges.
Believe me, SFO will get a surprisingly amount of A380 service. Singapore Airlines' SQ 001/002 flights (the most lucrative flights on SQ's route system) could right now use the A388, Lufthansa could use the A380 on the LH 454/455 flights (it's nearly impossible to get tickets on this flight even with Lufthansa using the 747-400), and Virgin Atlantic could fly the A380 on the VS 19/20 route (a VERY lucrative route for Virgin Atlantic--hence the reason why it was among the first routes to roll out Upper Class Suite premium class seating).
HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3529 times:
DTW Midfield terminal in a couple international arrivals gates is supposed to be able to handle it so I am told by Northwest personnel. Several international gates have double jetways that can raise to different levels and it is definitely wide enough. Although, I do not know who will be flying an A380 into DTW anytime soon.
AirbusfanYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2002, 1434 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3401 times:
The Greater Toronto Airport Authority is claiming that the International Pier in the new Terminal 1 at YYZ will have gates that can accomodate the a380. But again we'll hafta see who actually brings the big bird into Toronto.
Fuffla From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3278 times:
What I mean by airports being ready is everything, upgrading terminals to withstand the giant leap in passenger arrivals and departures, strengthening or widening or lengthing taxiways and runways. Making room at gates for the longer and wider plane!! Bacically every category!
Adria From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 3242 times:
Taxiways and runways don't need to be upgraded. Well all in all it is not that big deal if you look at the capacity increase of only 35% compared to the 744. When the 747 came out the increase was more then 50% compared to the 707. So airports will not have huge problems to accommodate the A380
Ssides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3011 times:
upgrading terminals to withstand the giant leap in passenger arrivals and departures
The "leap" won't be so "giant" with the possible exception of Asian airports. The first A380s will have a capacity of 555 passengers, which is only about +/- 150 than the 744. True, it will take longer to board and deplane, but I don't think that type of a passenger jump will make the burden on terminals much more significant. Customs halls may need to open an additional clearance line, and some baggage handling may need to become more efficient, but in terms of major renovations, few (if any) will be necessary.