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User currently offlineVSLover From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1897 posts, RR: 22
Posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5193 times:

get those bread trucks off the runway! hehe.
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Bush's Jet Aborts Landing
By THE NEW YORK TIMES

Published: February 6, 2004

BOARD AIR FORCE ONE, Feb. 5 — President Bush avoids most of the inconveniences that plague ordinary air travelers, like delays, lines and baggage searches. But on Thursday he got a taste of one: an aborted landing approach.

In early afternoon, returning from South Carolina, the pilot of Air Force One was forced by a vehicle on the runway at Andrews Air Force Base to pull up and circle for a second effort to land the president's plane.

The Air Force said it was "routine," and it certainly felt that way. Reporters in the back of the plane barely noticed.

But given the security that surrounds the president's comings and goings, it was a highly unusual event, especially on a clear day.

Mr. Bush seemed unperturbed when he got off the plane. But one White House official on the plane noted later that the plane "had a smoother time getting into Baghdad" on the president's secret Thanksgiving trip.

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User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5113 times:

So what ?

Thousands of aircraft abort landing and go around every day, in the world...

anything special there ?  Insane


User currently offlineTYSGoVols From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 634 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5020 times:

Just the most powerful man on the planet was one board.

In Christ
Garen B.



Rocky Top You'll Always be home sweet home to me, Good ole' Rocky Top WOOOOO
User currently offlineSlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 68
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4865 times:

Will there be career consequences for the person driving the vehicle. The Whitehouse staff likes the timing to go better than that.



Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4844 times:

FLYSSC;
Relax, my good man. It's aviation related... And that's why we're here, isn't it? If it's news enough for the New York Times, It's news enough for Airliners.net :-]

regards
AW


User currently offlineTrident2e From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4698 times:

Again, so what? President or peasant - what difference does it make? Must be a slow news day.

User currently offlineDeltaMD11 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 1701 posts, RR: 32
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4646 times:

It's not everyday that a runway obstruction forces a Presidential aircraft to make a go-around whether it be President Bush or the leader of another country. Have a chill people  Smile


Too often we ... enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought. - John Fitzgerald Kennedy
User currently offlineNavairjax From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4618 times:

Definitely a slow news day since a similar situation occured at NAS Jacksonville last summer and I don't recall hearing about it until the controllers discussed it at work.

User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12898 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4586 times:
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Just the most powerful man on the planet was one board.

No, stop it. You're scaring me! Big grin



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User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4577 times:

Thanks for posting. Positive contributions to the website are better than negative contributions. And welcome to airliners.net!  Smile


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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4512 times:

Not that I care about the news article - it is interesting though - but the point is it's Air Force 1.

Let's get off our high horses. Because it's Air Force 1 - that's why it gets so much attention. And as DeltaMD11 said, it's not everyday that the President is obstructed (regardless of whether him or reporters on board knew or not).

Open up people!



Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineUshermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2969 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4318 times:

Wow!

Finally I have another thing with GWB in common, besides not going to the army. Now we both had an aborted landing in a Boeing 747-200 (okay, with other specifications but who cares)!

What a great day!

 Laugh out loud



Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offlineSkymileman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4226 times:

Just a comment: have you noticed that the majority of the people complaining about this thread are from Europe! Leave it to the europeans to complain about anything that has to do with the USA. No offense to you europeans who aren't complaining.

User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12599 posts, RR: 34
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4104 times:

I'm European (although I was born in New Jersey, which still counts as America, unless George has added it to the axis of Evil) and I'm not complaining! Yet.

Anyway, getting back to the subject, I think it is highly unlikely and as for that driver, ooh . . . is he in trouble! Unless of course he had prior clearance to cross. This really is most unusual for Air Force one and I'm sure the reasons will be looked at.


User currently offlineMoPac From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4032 times:

Just the most powerful man on the planet was one board.

*Slaps TYSGoVols*

Don't you ever, ever, e v e r tell a Frenchman who the most powerful man on the planet is!!! On behalf of our French friends on this forum I will not have you shame Mr. Depardieu and Mr. Lewis in such a manner!

*Slaps TYSGoVols again*



Seriously though, I'm sure this isn't the first time AF1 has had to execute a go-around, but notable in any case.


User currently offlineTYSGoVols From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 634 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3886 times:

Actually I say this with shame and regret but I have French heritage. My last name is Blanchard for heavens sake. If he was so unelected by our electoral college then why is the Secret Service still letting him into the white house let alone on AF1. I personally can't see that he is ignorant I believe he is a brilliant prez definitely better than the last prez we had in this country and certainly better than Gore would have been and this coming from a Gore fellow Tennyson, but then again political opinion does not belong on this particular post.

In Christ
Garen Blanchard



Rocky Top You'll Always be home sweet home to me, Good ole' Rocky Top WOOOOO
User currently offlineCarduelis From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2001, 1586 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3866 times:

What makes you think that Europeans are 'complaining' about the thread?

If anything at all, don't you think it may have been the 'description' of one of the passengers?




Per Ardua ad Astra! ........ Honi Soit Qui Mal y Pense!
User currently offlineJjbiv From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1226 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3782 times:

Must have been the democrats  Wink/being sarcastic

I wonder: how long will it take for the "real" story to come out?

joe


User currently offlineAriegel From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3543 times:

Mr. Dean, you are cleared to cross the runway...

User currently offlineBritman From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3313 times:

i got the impression that the most powerful man on the planet was a certain mr Bin laden, he seems to have the world at his mercy, hes changed aviation as we know it forever,thats for sure.

User currently offlineHNLFlyboy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2912 times:

Ok, interesting how so many replies are NOT of an aviation nature. People, CHILLLLLLLLL. VSlover the article in the Times you quote as saying....

"one White House official on the plane noted later that the plane "had a smoother time getting into Baghdad" on the president's secret Thanksgiving trip"

I thought he took another type of a/c on that trip? I mean, wouldn't it be kinda obvious who was coming into Baghdad International if you were on guard and saw AF1 landing? BTW, does anyone know the call sign that flight operated under for the trip? Or was it AF1? It is suppose to be, if indeed he took one of the 742's out for a "spin" that day. Enlightenment awaits!


User currently offlineN754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2522 times:

I'm sure they used another flight number.

As for landing just switch all lights off, then you can't be seen.... heard but not seen.


User currently offlinePilatusguy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2004, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2385 times:

The article refers to an "aborted landing approach" which isn't really unusual - if the reporters at the back of the plane didn't realize, it was defenately not a last second go around, everyone in here knows that a "real" go around in a 747 is most defenately noticed by all people on board!
So what... just another standard situation, no matter who's on board!


User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5426 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2151 times:

I thought he took another type of a/c on that trip? I mean, wouldn't it be kinda obvious who was coming into Baghdad International if you were on guard and saw AF1 landing?

Bush did indeed take the VC-25 to Baghdad, operating under a different callsign than Air Force One.



South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlineHirisk From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

i would hate to be the guy in the truck!look out the window and see AF1breathing down your back! Smile/happy/getting dizzy


happy contrails
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