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What If EK Acquires MEA...  
User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1723 posts, RR: 3
Posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 1631 times:

As we all know, the Lebanese government would like to sell MEA if the rpice is right.

Now, what if EK buys MEA. how would you feel?

I like to think that it would be a good combination. It would give MEA the aircraft it so needs and will allow the combined company to open up a bunch of routes...

Here are a few that EK would really benefit from the BEY potential:
DXB-BEY-BER
DXB-BEY-BRU
DXB-BEY-CPH
DXB-BEY-ARN
DXB-BEY-AMS
DXB-BEY-MAD

dedicated BEY routes:
BEY-SYD
BEY-GRU
BEY-DKR
BEY-ZRH


Any thoughts...

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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 1607 times:

I think Mohammad El-Hout that they want to sell MEA to Lebanese investers only to keep it a "home" airline.

So I think Emirates or any foreign airline is out of the question. I believe they want multiple Lebanese investers to take a piece of MEA rather than 1 big airline or company owning it.

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4506 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 1575 times:

What if MEA acquires EK? That would be nice.

Actually I believe that Mohammed El-Hout said that MEA is not quite ready for privatization and then he doesn't anticipate it happen for at least 5 years (this was in 2002).




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User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1723 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 1575 times:

BA,
I wasn't aware of the fact that they would only want to sell it to local investors. Air France was a part owner until a few years ago. Maybe, they will want back in.

AirxLiban, Thanks for the info.



User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1557 times:

Yegbey01,

Air France had a 20% stake in MEA, but I am pretty sure their plan was always to sell it back to the Lebanese government.

Air France was basically "hired" to "fix-up" MEA and that it why they formed the partnership back in 1998 and that's why they had a 20% stake for a while.

France still looking after Lebanon.  Smile

One good thing about colonialism.  Big thumbs up

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineToBEYwithMEA From Lebanon, joined Feb 2004, 304 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1515 times:

I know MEA is owned by the the Central Bank of Lebanon well not all of it 99.3% who own the other 0.7%
toBEYwithMEA



MEA FLYING HIGH AND RETURING TO IT FORMER GLORY!
User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1723 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1498 times:

BA probably know the answer to this.

User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1490 times:

The 0.7% is various private investers. I believe Rafik Hariri has part of that 0.7%.

Anyways, 0.7% of private investers certainly isn't enough to call it a privatized airline.  Smile

I don't think you'll see MEA privatized until at least sometime in mid to late 2005 at the earliest.

Regards



"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineToBEYwithMEA From Lebanon, joined Feb 2004, 304 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1474 times:

BA,
I'm a Airbus fan. If MEA do become privatized is there a chance that it will buy Boeings
toBEYwithMEA
Hey Yegbey01,, BA knows the answer to everything!!



MEA FLYING HIGH AND RETURING TO IT FORMER GLORY!
User currently offlineAzmi From Lebanon, joined Nov 2003, 111 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1451 times:

If EK acquires MEA,will we still see the (arzi) on its tail?


fly all airlines,visit all countries
User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2162 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1435 times:

If Emirates bought ME - which, based on what was said above, sounds rather hypothetical - then maybe EK would finally join an alliance: EK and ME both in Skyteam!

Also, maybe EK would not fully acquire ME, but what if EK bought 49%, and the rest staid with a Lebanese-owned fund or something like that. This relationship could then develop into something like SQ-VS (hardly any commercial/marketing links, an almost purely financial stakeholding), something like LH-BD (distinct brands, but in the same alliance and systematic code-sharing), into something like EK-UL (turning a so-so airline into a premium player, with some commercial cooperation).

Or maybe - although less likely - ME could be taken over by Lebanese investors and then enter into a cross-shareholding with EK.

In any case, right now I am less worried about who could invest into ME. I would first like to see them on a stable and sustainable growth path, i.e. grow the network and the fleet, establish a premium reputation, and like this make itself more attractive to potential investors. A final thought: given the strong seasonality of ME's business on many routes, the ideal investor would be one that has a seasonal business as well, but in winter - great complementarity. Which would be such an airline?


User currently offlineToBEYwithMEA From Lebanon, joined Feb 2004, 304 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1413 times:

You can't find an airline like that Mozart, well at least not in the area.

toBEYwithMEA



MEA FLYING HIGH AND RETURING TO IT FORMER GLORY!
User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2162 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1362 times:

toBEYwithMEA, I am afraid you are right, otherwise I would have come up with one already... Even outside the region I cannot think of any airline whose peak is in Northern Hemisphere winter, unless maybe some small commuter airline flying to some ski resorts. But that would be no good for MEA...

User currently offlineToBEYwithMEA From Lebanon, joined Feb 2004, 304 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (10 years 5 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1353 times:

You see my point

toBEYwithMEA



MEA FLYING HIGH AND RETURING TO IT FORMER GLORY!
User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7401 posts, RR: 57
Reply 14, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1299 times:

MEA will never be sold to EK. First because there is no interest for EK to buy MEA... and because even privatized, Lebanon needs a national airline, and MEA will remain in the hands of private Lebanese investors, and will remain THIS national airline. Member of SkyTeam  Wink/being sarcastic

User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1247 times:

Lebanon hardly needs it own airline. Other countries provide enough air service.
It's a miserable operation, anyway.


User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1723 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1215 times:

Greg,

When was the last time you ever flew MEA to call it "miserable". Their product is as good as EK. Brand new planes. what are you talking about?


User currently offlineToBEYwithMEA From Lebanon, joined Feb 2004, 304 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1215 times:

Keep thinking that Greg, Keep thinking that
toBEywithMEA



MEA FLYING HIGH AND RETURING TO IT FORMER GLORY!
User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8031 posts, RR: 54
Reply 18, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1211 times:

Emirates aren't going to buy MEA. I think MEA are doing fine, the fleet is gradually expanding and new long haul routes are being considered ie Brazil (presumably via W Africa) and if Air Canada aren't allowed to serve Lebanon, why can't MEA serve Canada (with an AC codeshare)? Wasn't the supposed reason for AC not being allowed to fly last year a function of the aircraft apparently being unsafe while on the ground at Beirut? Therefore, why not operate the flight with MEA metal?

I wouldn't take Greg's comment too seriously. They're one of the best airlines in the world for comfort, service, food, you name it. 149 seats on an A321 says it all. I don't think MEA fly within Texas so I doubt Greg knows what he's talking about.



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User currently offlineToBEYwithMEA From Lebanon, joined Feb 2004, 304 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1209 times:

No, Yegbey01 let Greg think like that. You're missing out on the most underrated airline in the world Greg give one more shot if you don't like it then sorry man, somethings wrong

toBEYwithMEA



MEA FLYING HIGH AND RETURING TO IT FORMER GLORY!
User currently offlineMEA310 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2002, 660 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (10 years 5 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1185 times:

Greg

If so,why not suspend AA,UA,CO...the US has enough air service from major airlines worldwide..Weird comments out there  Wow!

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