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Air Transat A310 Decision  
User currently offlineCtflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 89 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3883 times:

At the time when Air Transat selected the A310, the airline operated a fleet of Boeing 757's. Then why did the airline select the A310? What factors influenced their decision? Why did the airline not select the 767 and take advantage of the common crew rating with the 757 which could have resulted in crew cost savings? Is the airline satisfied with the performance of the A310? The airline has leased the A320 for the winter season. Should the airline acquire either the A320 or the A321 for its short to medium haul flights?

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User currently offlineVio From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 1435 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3782 times:

That's something that I never understood... didn't they get the A310 that Royal had?... or was that Canada 3000? (man i was too young to remember those facts)


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User currently offlineYUL332LX From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 820 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3676 times:

They probably had a very good deal from the lessers for the first batch of A310 planes and the decision was possibly taking around the same time they decided to go with the A332/333 to complete the fleet with the older L1011s

And now, they seem to be satisfied since they will be getting at least 4 more A310s in the next few months to replace L1011s and then have a small but all Aibus fleet. As for the A320s, they only have two right now and they are owned by Star airlines, a french subsidary of AT in France. In return, Star ailines got an AT A332 for the winter.

Regarding the A310, I had the BADluck to fly on one of them last summer (YMX-NCE) on a flight that took off more than 6 hours late (take off was scheduled at 11PM but was delayed until 5 AM because of an apparently minor problem with the breaking system). Had to spend the entire night in Mirabel... So my first and only impression of the A310 is rather bad...



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User currently offlineWhiteguy From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 799 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3658 times:

The A310s that Transat got came from the middle east, I think from Saudi Arabia. The ex-Royal A310s did stay with C-3 until they went under. After that I'm not sure where they all went, I know couple did go into storage in the U.K. to be broken up or sold.

User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3657 times:

Just to shed some light on this topic, with some facts, and some rumours.

Air Transat is not 100% satisfied with the A310, and they actually wanted the 767 instead. But they got a better deal on the A310's. None of their A310's came from Royal though. One of the Royal A310's is flying for SATA, one is being chopped up, the other two I'm not sure. Canada 3000 got the Royal A310's since they took over Royal Airlines.

From what I hear, the A310 will stay in the fleet for a relatively short period of time at which point Transat might want something newer, and again, they like the 767. I'm not sure what advantages the 767 might have, but one of their goals is to have less types in the fleet. This might give rise to a 757 and 767 fleet down the road. Yes, they might get 757's again in the future. This is what is being told to me by a few people, although I have a hard time believing it, because they talk about the end of the decade as the time frame. At that point, any advantages the 767 and 757's may have will be gone, in my opinion.

Bottom line? Who the heck knows what they're going to do. They probably don't know yet either. But don't be too surprised to see fleet changes announced in the next 5 years or so.



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User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1726 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3645 times:

Whiteguy,

The A310s came from Emirates (EK).


User currently offlineWhiteguy From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 799 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3484 times:

Yegbey01

Thats right, now I remember. Thanks.


User currently offlineIvo From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 470 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3312 times:

Hi,

They recently got there hands on 2 A310-304 from Lufthansa.
They are now in Hamburg for checks and painting at LHT.

The ex Emirates A310 have a superior interior and personal entertainment.

Ivo


User currently offlineBOEING747-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3218 times:

WOw 310-304? dont they operate the 310-308? Is is wise to opearte a diffrent varent or does it matter?

User currently offlineBy738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2334 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3205 times:

Dont think its a different variant, is that not just indicative of a different customer order number. I remember Boeing used to do that.

User currently offlineYUL332LX From Canada, joined Feb 2004, 820 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3133 times:

It's a different variant of A310 but they already have both right now.


A310-304:
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And for the different variant identifications, only Airbus does that. Boeing indicates the custumer number as By738 said.



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User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3097 times:

Some of their A310's came with the vacuum lavs and others with the regular lavs, but I hear they are converting them all to non-vacuum lavs.


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineJutes85 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2989 times:

Had the pleasure of flying on one from YVR to PUJ. Return flight was almost 9 hours due to traffic and holding. Imagine spending 9 hours in economy with a 3-3-3 config. I'm 6'3" and it was a tight fit, but it did not bother me too much. For some reason I feel safer on an Airbus, ecpecially the A310, than a Boeing, don't know why.

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