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Boeing SST In Florida?  
User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 5722 times:

In the Time Life series of books made in the 80s "The Epic of Flight", I was reading in the book "The Jet Age" that the full scale mockup of the Boeing SST was sold at an auction for $31,000 to someone in Florida where it is being used as a tourist attraction.

Is it still on display at some museum somewhere?

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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5612 times:

Hey

you might want to google it. I have never heard this before. I thought it was still at Boeing in Seattle.



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User currently offlineRareBear From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 553 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5570 times:

There is a 90-foot section of the Boeing SST mock-up at the Hiller Aviation Museum in San Carlos, CA


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User currently offlineSLCPilot From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 582 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5517 times:

B2707 will probably have a LOT more to say about it, his comments and knowledge are always very interesting.

The mockup remains you are looking for are probably here....

http://www.hiller.org/exhibits/online-exhibits/sst/sst.html

SLCPilot



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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5494 times:

hey

the SST looks prettey beat up. I think it would have looked nice in Pepsi colors as i looks now.



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User currently offlineDAirbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 593 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5281 times:
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Here is the story as far as I know. After the B2707 was cancelled, Boeing sold the mockup to a promoter who planned to use it as part of an amusement park/entertainment complex in Kissimmee, FL. The promoter ran out of money before finishing his plans although he was able to move the mock-up to Florida and set it up inside a large warehouse looking building. The building was latter sold to a church with the mock-up still inside it.

Around 1990, the church needed room to expand so they were trying to sell the mock-up to anyone who wanted it or scrap it otherwise. I was going to school in Daytona Beach at the time so my roommate and I drove to Kissimmee after hearing about it in a newspaper article. I still have a picture of the mock-up with me standing in the cockpit.

I never did find out what happened to it afterward but I am glad it ended up in a museum instead of being scrapped.

Regards

DAirbus



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User currently offlineB2707SST From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 1369 posts, RR: 59
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5182 times:

DAirbus is pretty much spot on. I have a Seattle PI article on the mockup's move to Hiller in hard copy and am trying to find it online.

Just a couple of comments: the original 2707-100 mockup was life size and included moving swing wings, retractable flaps, and a furnished cabin with in-seat PTVs (hard to believe for 1966). A separate nose mockup had a simulator cockpit and a pivoting nose, and a third exhibit showed off the SST's GE4 turbojet engines and nacelle installation features. All were destroyed after Boeing switched to the 2707-300 fixed-wing design in late 1968. No one seems to know what happened to the mockups or where the remains went. They just disappeared.





The people standing around and under the mockup give a good sense of scale; this was to be an enormous aircraft.

Apparently for many years, a full-scale mural of the 2707-100 adorned the side of one of Boeing's buildings at BFI. I'm not sure which one; the mockup was located in the Developmental Center at BFI, which is where prototype assembly was scheduled to occur. Production likely would have been in Renton or perhaps BFI.

The 2707-300 mockup was not quite as elaborate and was disassembled after the SST was cancelled in 1971. Boeing nearly sold it for scrap, but as mentioned, a buyer in Florida stepped in and saved it. The two SST prototypes were 15% completed when the SST was axed. Boeing employees kept some pieces as souveniers (occasionally bits of the 2707's titanium spars or skin panels come up on EBay) but no larger sections remain.



The Hiller Museum has the cockpit and the first 70 feet or so of the cabin, but I'm not sure if they saved the rest of the fuselage and wing. The structure was badly corroded, as you can see below, but had been restored nicely, according to later photos. I haven't been to Hiller myself, but I imagine it's worth a visit, since that mockup is basically all that's left of a nearly $10 billion program.



http://www.hiller.org/exhibits/online-exhibits/sst/sst.html

Lockheed's L-2000 mockup was located in Burbank. After Lockheed lost the SST competition, it was sent to a FAA facility in Oklahoma City and used for fire evacuation testing before being destroyed. Like the 2707-100 mockup, no trace of it remains. Lockheed wiped out almost all references to its SST program after it lost to Boeing.



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User currently offlineTu154m From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 682 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5068 times:

When I lived in Daytona, I was down the coast by Patrick AFB one day, as there were some U-2s flying out over Haiti(early 1990s). As I got closer to the Kennedy Space Center, on A1A there was a long, blue fuselage looking object on the inland side of the road, behind a fence. After asking around a little, someone said it was the fuselage to a SST mock up!!!!! It was minus the cockpit, and had what looked like wing attach points. Looking back, I really wish I had taken a picture of this!!!!! I must say, after seeing the nose section mentioned above, the blue looked the same and it was in prettty sad condition. Has anyone else heard anymore of this??
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User currently offlineExitRow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4827 times:

What a shame. Destroying all that history. You'd think, of all programs, an SST one would be a little more forward-thinking than that.

For what it's worth, in Seattle's Fremont neighborhood, there's a bar called "The Triangle." Not sure if they're still there (haven't been back for beers there in a while), but above the urinals in the men's room are a series of circa 1960s artist's renderings of a futuristic Seatac airport, complete with departing, arriving and taxiiing Boeing SST's.

Sad. Just plain sad...




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