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How Are United's Int'l Flights From JFK Doing?  
User currently offlineORD747CLE From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 240 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3932 times:

United dropped EWR > LHR a few months ago. How is United doing on it's JFK>LHR and JFK>NRT routes? These are pretty competitive and don't seem to fit into United's overall structure.

Does anyone have any info or insight into this?

Ord747Cle

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User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1603 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3921 times:

I don't know how they're doing, but it wouldn't surprise me if these routes are eventually dropped. As you say, "focus cities" just don't seem to fit into UA's plan anymore. They seem to be focusing on strengthening their hubs these days (like cutting service at MIA).

Unless these flights are wildly profitable, I would think their respective slots could be put to better use elsewhere.



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User currently offlineUniTED From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3890 times:

Remember, though, that New York is a city of 8-9 million people... there is high demand for O&D traffic as stated in a recent thread about DL's international routes.

Chris.



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User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1738 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3878 times:

JFK is more a spoke from the NRT hub, plus were talking New York to Tokyo here..many people fly this route. As for LHR, well if UA cant make NYC-London work, theyve got little chance for long term survival.


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User currently offlineFA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3874 times:

I heard a little while ago the double daily JFK-LHR flights are doing fine. I heard that ridership is up after we cut EWR-LHR. (from a posting on United's intranet)

This route doesn't make too much sense at first glance but when you think about it... other then UA, no Star Alliance carrier flies between these two VERY IMPORTANT cities. If one is doing business in NY and needs to get to London, what Star Carrier can get you there in a hurry? Plus there is a bit of passenger feed from our transcons as well as feed from British Midland at Heathrow.

FA4UA



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User currently offlineTriJetFan1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3864 times:
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Why doesn't United make JFK a hub?


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User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1603 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3854 times:

Why doesn't United make JFK a hub?

Because an already-established hub is right down the road at IAD. Plus, it would be hard to signifcantly increase presence at JFK with B6, AA, and DL controlling the scene there.



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User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1738 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3849 times:

United at this point, has no chance of making JFK a hub. AA, B6, and DL are all strong, and expanding at JFK. No room for UA.


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User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2167 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 3593 times:

I really hope that a Star carrier will continue on this most important intercont route in the world.

User currently offlineTRENT500 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3564 times:

Flew JFK-LHR on UA 777 in december, the flight was full. As was LHR-ORD outbound.

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