ORD747CLE From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 239 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2284 times:
United dropped EWR > LHR a few months ago. How is United doing on it's JFK>LHR and JFK>NRT routes? These are pretty competitive and don't seem to fit into United's overall structure.
N670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1595 posts, RR: 8 Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2273 times:
I don't know how they're doing, but it wouldn't surprise me if these routes are eventually dropped. As you say, "focus cities" just don't seem to fit into UA's plan anymore. They seem to be focusing on strengthening their hubs these days (like cutting service at MIA).
Unless these flights are wildly profitable, I would think their respective slots could be put to better use elsewhere.
UniTED From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 311 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2242 times:
Remember, though, that New York is a city of 8-9 million people... there is high demand for O&D traffic as stated in a recent thread about DL's international routes.
Flyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1691 posts, RR: 4 Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2230 times:
JFK is more a spoke from the NRT hub, plus were talking New York to Tokyo here..many people fly this route. As for LHR, well if UA cant make NYC-London work, theyve got little chance for long term survival.
FA4UA From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 812 posts, RR: 21 Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2226 times:
I heard a little while ago the double daily JFK-LHR flights are doing fine. I heard that ridership is up after we cut EWR-LHR. (from a posting on United's intranet)
This route doesn't make too much sense at first glance but when you think about it... other then UA, no Star Alliance carrier flies between these two VERY IMPORTANT cities. If one is doing business in NY and needs to get to London, what Star Carrier can get you there in a hurry? Plus there is a bit of passenger feed from our transcons as well as feed from British Midland at Heathrow.
FA4UA
The debate continues... Starwood or Hyatt... which is better
TriJetFan1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 8 Reply 5, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2216 times:
N670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1595 posts, RR: 8 Reply 6, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2206 times:
Why doesn't United make JFK a hub?
Because an already-established hub is right down the road at IAD. Plus, it would be hard to signifcantly increase presence at JFK with B6, AA, and DL controlling the scene there.
Flyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1691 posts, RR: 4 Reply 7, posted (9 years 4 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2201 times:
United at this point, has no chance of making JFK a hub. AA, B6, and DL are all strong, and expanding at JFK. No room for UA.