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Iberia A319 @ MIA?!?!  
User currently offlineSwissINTLA340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 87 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3802 times:

In this picture, in the top left hand corner you can see a Iberia A319 taking off. Why does Iberia fly a A319 to MIA and is it capable of that range?


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User currently offlineN754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3765 times:

This has been asked before, if you check you will find they operate or did operate around that area to feed the flights to Spain. Before they used the MD-87, I think!

User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12254 posts, RR: 35
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3761 times:
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My guess is inter Caribbean flights.


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User currently offlineCopa737 From Panama, joined Jan 2002, 331 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3752 times:

Iberia have a mini-hub in Miami to serve Central American destinations. They operates four Airbus 319s.

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User currently offlineAA54Heavy From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3743 times:

Iberia basically has a mini-hub type deal at MIA where they have some A319s stationed (they don't fly over from spain) to continue their two daily MAD flights to various destinations in central america, they also have local trafific rights to take people from the mia area to those desitnations....someone else any more specific information?


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User currently offlineMckennasmall From Canada, joined Dec 2003, 249 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3740 times:

You know I was going to post something simular like that. I wonder why it is there. It is the same with this photo

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User currently offlineCopa737 From Panama, joined Jan 2002, 331 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3733 times:

They have used dc-9 and Md-87 in the Miami Hub.

Copa737



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User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3647 times:

Talk about a topic beaten to death!

IB has a mini hub in MIA. A319 feed people from Guatemala, Mexico, Costa Rica, and I think the other country is El Salvador, or Honduras, into MIA, then take the 74 to MAD.

KdX


User currently offlineAirliner777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3648 times:

SwissINTLA340:

Iberia operates thier A319s to and from MIA to:

Cancun, MX
Guatemala City
San Jose, Costa Rica
San Pedro Sula, Honduras
San Salvador
Panama City

Iberia operates two (2) daily flights to MAD using the B747-200 in the afternoons, and the A340-600 at nights.


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Adel





User currently offlineMr AirNZ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2002, 871 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3632 times:

Actually the Air New Zealand A320 is simply on its delivery flight to New Zealand.

User currently offlineB752fanatic From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 918 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3628 times:

The search tool for this forum could be good use.

This topic and this question has been raised at least 2 times a month.



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User currently offlineTriJetFan1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3575 times:
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I asked this same question in another thread and someone said that Miami is IB's hub for South American travel.
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User currently offlineMd11lover From Switzerland, joined Oct 2003, 444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3539 times:



For those of you who dont like to the topic...just dont read it!! SwissIntnlA430 was just asking a simple question and he has the right to. Who cares if its been asked before.

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User currently offlineTriJetFan1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3512 times:
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Agreed with Md11lover- this is a legitimate question and when I asked it people got on my case too. Don't worry it happens to everyone. Happened to me about 3 times in my first 10 posts. But I learned!  Smile


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User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3498 times:

Iberia uses MIA as a mini-hub, to feed traffic onto its flights to/from MAD. The airline has A319 and MD87 aircraft operating to Guatemala City, San Pedro Sula, San Salvador, Panama City, and Cancun. The hub was nearly scrapped after 09/11, but given AA's huge presence at MIA and its partner ship with AA, through OneWorld, my guess is Iberia will continue to use it. The MIA hub for IB was first established in 1989 or 1990.



User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33033 posts, RR: 71
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3465 times:

This topic does come up on a weekly basis. I'll add some info, since the complete list of destinations has yet to be posted. Iberia has 4 A319s, as mentioned. They fly to seven destinations, five with local traffic rights. The five with local traffic rights are Guatemala City, Managua, San Jose, San Pedro Sula, Panama City. They also fly to Cancun and San Savador, but without local traffic rights. The hub remains, despite this age of codesharing, for the simple fact that is a very profitable operation for them. They do not codeshare on AA flights between Miami and LatAm and AA does not codeshare on Iberia's MIA flights between Miami and Central America/Mexico. They attempeted to start a codeshare deal, but it was rejected by DOT, for the same reasons AA is not allowed to codeshare on any TACA or LACSA flights out of MIA: It is already too high fare of a market, and codesharing would do nothing positive for the customers.


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User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3395 times:

Are there still ERJs operating out of MIA in Air France colors? I know a different company operates the ERJs to places like Haiti or some French colony, but I am surprised no one has asked why there are Air France ERJs at MIA.

User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3264 times:

Hey

with the AZ A320 probally on a delivery flight. IB has a caribbean and a south america hub in MIA and opperate to the Caribbean and South America. I have seen the 320 at SJU with a 340 there to at the same time,.



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User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3188 times:

in the top left hand corner you can see a Iberia A319 taking off.

Hmmmmm I don't see anything in the top left corner.

Do you mean the top RIGHT corner?  Big grin

FB05

[Edited 2004-02-11 16:07:09]


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User currently offlineGOTbound From Sweden, joined Oct 2006, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3170 times:

>>> HlyfwdCatft

No AF ERJ, but a AF A320. I just saw it last Saturday, se my post about it. I was suprised to see it anyway.

rgs.GOTbound


User currently offlineAirliner777 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

Air France operates both ERJ-145s and A320s out of MIA to PAP (Haiti). I don't know why they alternate.

User currently offlineKevin752 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 727 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2731 times:

IB A319's at MIA are doing IB flights to SAP and other Southern American services. I can not remember the flight numbers. I think one is IB6132 to SAP from MIA. But I still am unsure of the flight #'s.


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User currently offlineAirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 886 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2623 times:

Air France (AF) operates both ERJ-145s and A320s out of MIA, daily, to PAP (Haiti), PTP (Guadeloupe), FDF (Martinique) and CAY (French Guyana).

Daily flight at 8am.


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ERJ-145s are operated by Air Caraibes, based in Guadeloupe and Martinique.


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User currently offlineBDRules From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 1501 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2420 times:

Aerolineas Argentinas has a mini hub in MAD operating MD80's around Europe inc LGW to connect with the flights to EZE. This is the same concept as IB in MIA.

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User currently offlineA3xx900 From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2371 times:

How is it possible that non-US airlines are allowed to operate flights with their own aircraft in the US? Are there more examples than AF and IB in MIA? Are they just allowed to do that when the flights go out of the US? I could imagine that it is pretty difficult for e.g. LH to get operating rights for a flight like DEN-LAX to feed their flights to FRA and MUC.
And are those IB aircraft really IB planes or just operated for IB like the ERJs for AF by Air Caraibes?



Why is 10 afraid of 7? Because 7 8 9.
25 MAH4546 : How is it possible that non-US airlines are allowed to operate flights with their own aircraft in the US? It's not (with traffic rights), and they don
26 Gigneil : Both AF and IB have full rights to carry passengers from MIA to any of their destinations. You don't have to originate in MAD or CDG, for example. But
27 Post contains links and images Sabena332 : Are there more examples than AF and IB in MIA? NW has an A 320 based at NRT: View Large View MediumPhoto © Christophe Van Lint Patrick
28 Post contains links and images Flyboy36y : Pan Am used to do this alot. They operated 737s and 727s all over Europe. TWA as well. View Large View MediumPhoto © Eduard Marmet View Large Vie
29 B4real : Also add IB's route MIA-MGA (Augusto C Sandino, Managua, Nicaragua)
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