AA54Heavy From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3721 times:
Iberia basically has a mini-hub type deal at MIA where they have some A319s stationed (they don't fly over from spain) to continue their two daily MAD flights to various destinations in central america, they also have local trafific rights to take people from the mia area to those desitnations....someone else any more specific information?
TriJetFan1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1128 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3490 times:
Agreed with Md11lover- this is a legitimate question and when I asked it people got on my case too. Don't worry it happens to everyone. Happened to me about 3 times in my first 10 posts. But I learned!
ContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3476 times:
Iberia uses MIA as a mini-hub, to feed traffic onto its flights to/from MAD. The airline has A319 and MD87 aircraft operating to Guatemala City, San Pedro Sula, San Salvador, Panama City, and Cancun. The hub was nearly scrapped after 09/11, but given AA's huge presence at MIA and its partner ship with AA, through OneWorld, my guess is Iberia will continue to use it. The MIA hub for IB was first established in 1989 or 1990.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32782 posts, RR: 72
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3443 times:
This topic does come up on a weekly basis. I'll add some info, since the complete list of destinations has yet to be posted. Iberia has 4 A319s, as mentioned. They fly to seven destinations, five with local traffic rights. The five with local traffic rights are Guatemala City, Managua, San Jose, San Pedro Sula, Panama City. They also fly to Cancun and San Savador, but without local traffic rights. The hub remains, despite this age of codesharing, for the simple fact that is a very profitable operation for them. They do not codeshare on AA flights between Miami and LatAm and AA does not codeshare on Iberia's MIA flights between Miami and Central America/Mexico. They attempeted to start a codeshare deal, but it was rejected by DOT, for the same reasons AA is not allowed to codeshare on any TACA or LACSA flights out of MIA: It is already too high fare of a market, and codesharing would do nothing positive for the customers.
HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3373 times:
Are there still ERJs operating out of MIA in Air France colors? I know a different company operates the ERJs to places like Haiti or some French colony, but I am surprised no one has asked why there are Air France ERJs at MIA.
AlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 3242 times:
with the AZ A320 probally on a delivery flight. IB has a caribbean and a south america hub in MIA and opperate to the Caribbean and South America. I have seen the 320 at SJU with a 340 there to at the same time,.
Kevin752 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 726 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2709 times:
IB A319's at MIA are doing IB flights to SAP and other Southern American services. I can not remember the flight numbers. I think one is IB6132 to SAP from MIA. But I still am unsure of the flight #'s.
A3xx900 From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2349 times:
How is it possible that non-US airlines are allowed to operate flights with their own aircraft in the US? Are there more examples than AF and IB in MIA? Are they just allowed to do that when the flights go out of the US? I could imagine that it is pretty difficult for e.g. LH to get operating rights for a flight like DEN-LAX to feed their flights to FRA and MUC.
And are those IB aircraft really IB planes or just operated for IB like the ERJs for AF by Air Caraibes?
Why is 10 afraid of 7? Because 7 8 9.
: How is it possible that non-US airlines are allowed to operate flights with their own aircraft in the US? It's not (with traffic rights), and they don
: Both AF and IB have full rights to carry passengers from MIA to any of their destinations. You don't have to originate in MAD or CDG, for example. But