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Delta 767-200s How Much Longer?  
User currently offlineSushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 15
Posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4017 times:

How much longer will the 767-200s be around at Delta? I am trying to figure out a time to take a trip to DTW and I must fly on a 767-200!  Big grin

Also are the current -200s all ERs? Are there any non ERs?

Thanks


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User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3179 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3993 times:
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While I dont know the date or time, if you miss DLs you can always fly COs! They do fly intercontinentally between EWR and IAH, alongside the 777,764, 757, and 733/5/G/8/9.


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User currently offlineSushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3955 times:

I would like to try CO, but this trip will be a mileage run on Delta.


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User currently offlineTOLtommy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3304 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3910 times:

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but none of Delta's 767-200's are ER models. I believe all of Delta's transatlantic 767 flying is done by the -300ER model. The -200 is strictly for domestic flying. If you want a -200ER, I believe you'll have to fly CO. And I believe that DL's -200's are among the oldest in the -200 fleet.

User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3863 times:

Delta's 767-200 are among the first (in fact, one of them I believe is the first) to roll off the Renton assembly line. No, none of them are -ER models and they do not operate on transatlantic flights.

Continental's 767-200's are much newer. They were delivered in 2000 up until 2001 (all 10 models). They have 777 style cabin architecture on the inside and upgraded avionics. They fly mainly from Newark to Europe and South America, as well as from Houston to Sao Paolo. The routes are:

EWR-MXP
EWR-FCO
EWR-BRU
EWR-LGW
EWR-GRU
IAH-GRU
EWR-GVA
EWR-ZRH

They are also scheduled to operate two of the six daily EWR-LAX flights in the spring time.

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3817 times:

i don't think the 767-200 will be retired for a while...the 762 is the "Spirit of Delta" (i'm refering to that perticular aircraft and not all 762s) and has a place in the heart of employees and FFs.

They will AT LEAST keep the spirit in service as long as humanly possible.


User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4514 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3784 times:

of course you can always catch a ride in an AA 762! I think that one of the AA 762s is no.2 off the line.

alternatively, you could buy one of the UA ones that is up for sale...and it would be your very own!  Smile



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User currently offlineFutureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3775 times:

I would expect to see the 767s, all series, in service at the very least until the 7E7 arrives, and then possibly a gradual retirement of their 767 fleet as they transition to the 7E7. Depending on how they continue to perform as the years and hours build up, we may see them for many years to come.

Just my thoughts!



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User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2690 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3725 times:

Futureualpilot, my sentiments exactly. The 767-200, both the non-ER and ER models, will begin to be disposed of upon arrival of the 7E7. UAL has already retired a number of their 762s, some of the oldest 762s in the world. If I am correct, UAL's 767-200s are all non-ER models as well, right?


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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16335 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3720 times:

Of the 15 DL 762's, at least 5 are currently in storage according to Av Letter. No indication whether this is short term or long term storage.






Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16892 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3700 times:

EWR-BRU and IAH-GRU are both 767-400s.


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User currently offlineFlybynight From Norway, joined Jul 2003, 1024 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3655 times:

I believe DL was the launch customer for the 762 in 81 or 82.
UA also has 762 ER's and I think AA does as well.



Heia Norge!
User currently offlineSushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3651 times:

Thanks for the replies. Im going to try for next month.

I thought United had the first 767??

Also Delta 767-200s have flown on trans Atlnatic flights before. I remember in 95 they were all over Europe. They also used to fly to Moscow.




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User currently offlineFlybynight From Norway, joined Jul 2003, 1024 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3633 times:

Sushka - Let me correct myself.
The first three 762's were UA. The fifth plane was DL's, and flew on 2/19/82. However, DL was the first to use GE engines, so they were the launch customer for the Boeing/GE variation. I believe Ethopian Airlines, of all airlines, was the first to get the 762ER, in 5/84. JL placed the first order for the 763 in 1983. AA was the launch customer for the 763ER.



Heia Norge!
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16335 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3621 times:

I thought United had the first 767??

Correct. UA was the first customer to order & receive the 762.

Also Delta 767-200s have flown on trans Atlnatic flights before.

Nope. The DL 762's are non-ER. Unless they were used briefly on the intra-Euro services. They were NEVER used transatlantic.






Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineSyncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 2039 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3598 times:
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If your going on a mileage trip, correct me if I'm mistakin, but you still could take CO.

User currently offlineSushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3597 times:

I swear there are pictures
...................

[Edited 2004-02-11 05:18:58]


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User currently offlineSushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3597 times:

At Moscow...

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Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Alastair T. Gardiner




What is a Intra-Euro service?



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User currently offlineFutureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3574 times:

Hey Thrust, just a quick question for you, did UA retire some of their 762s or just park em in the desert for a little while?

Thanks for the answer, I'm just curious.



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User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2690 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3558 times:

Thanks for telling me UA does operate 762ER's? I figured some had to be ER's because they were seen at Frankfurt and London-Heathrow frequently in the early 1990s. By the way, AA operates only 762ERs now. Their eight 767-200 non-ER models are all in storage for the time being. AA 762ERs N312AA through N339AA, and N301AA through N308AA are non-ER models.


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User currently offlineHirisk From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3552 times:

i can back up sushka's story up.i flew out of moscow on a 762.they fly them between jfk and moscow.that was in april of 95.much better then the L-1011 i flew over in!


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User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3529 times:

they fly them between jfk and moscow.

DL's 762 are not -ER and therefore could not have possibly flown JFK-SVO. However, DL did base some 762 in Europe and they may have flown FRA-SVO.


User currently offlineSushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3520 times:

Hirisk did they fly the L1011 ever to Moscow? I have also seen other pictures at other places of 762s at Moscow.

Futureualpilot, There was a post about United selling the 762 earlier. Apparently all but three are for sale right now



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User currently offlineAv8rDAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 463 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3427 times:

Delta did have a hub in Europe at one point in the 1990s at Frankfurt. Not sure about the routes on which the 762's were used, but I found a few shots of 727s among the 777s, 763s, MD11s, L1011s, and A310s from Pan Am that Delta either formerly or currently uses for FRA routes. 762s could have been operated from here, as it is one of the major hub airports in Europe next to LHR, CDG.


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Photo © Oliver Brunke



[Edited 2004-02-11 07:06:33]


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User currently offlineBucky707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1028 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3382 times:

"Of the 15 DL 762's, at least 5 are currently in storage according to Av Letter. No indication whether this is short term or long term storage"


All of Deltas 762s are coming out of storage by summer.


25 Post contains images Hirisk : sushka,they flew the L10's to FRA then you hopped an airbus of some sort(can't remember which one.maybe a 310?)on to moscow.i might be wrong about the
26 Post contains links TriStar500 : Here's some more info regarding DL's former hub at FRA and also some more details about the use of DL's 762's on intra-European services from this hub
27 Rb211 : Doesn't DL still fly the 762 to MSY regularly out of ATL? Mardi Gras has already started and I wanted to take a chance before Fat Tuesday.
28 Cmckeithen : Why don't the USA based airlines just go with the 737-800/900; 767-300ER/400ER: and the 777-200/200ER/300 aircraft. Those are the newer verisons. In m
29 Cmckeithen : Yes....that is primarly the A/C choice by DL out of MSY-ATL they have 1 maybe 2 they use the 767-300. The rest of the flights are done by 767-200s or
30 Cmckeithen : At MSY you could see any one of the following A/C parked at terminal D: CO: CRJ's 737-300 737-700 757-200 757-300 (Seems to be only during Mardi Gras)
31 Cmckeithen : Rb 211 here is what DL operates out of MSY-ATL: Delta 1156 5:00am New Orleans (MSY) 7:20am Atlanta (ATL) Boeing 737-200 Delta 760 6:00am New Orleans (
32 Dvk : I don't think UA's 762's are ER's. That would not keep them from having flown trans-Atlantic in the past. TWA flew non-ER 762's on trans-Atlantic rout
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