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Did Embraer Consider 30 Seat Jet?  
User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2276 times:

I realize that this would be a design that would have weight issues, but did Embraer actually study a 30 seat version?

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User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2234 times:

It's called the ERJ 135 I believe.

FB05



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User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2224 times:

The 135 is designed for 37 passengers. I'm wondering about a 30 seat variant.

User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2210 times:

I know the 135 is designed for 37, but a plane seating 30 would be too close in comparison to the 135 I believe. I'm sure they would have built one if there was a market for it.

FB05



Never Trust Your Fuel Gauge
User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2197 times:

True, but that's also the case between the 140 and 145. Although the 140 was for a more "political reason".

User currently offlineDAL12 From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2177 times:

Doesn't make sense -- a 30-seat variant will only reduce capacity and reduce trip-costs negligibly. The 135 is already losing popularity because airlines are figuring out it provides little cost benefit over a 145 but with much reduced revenue potential.

User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2094 times:

I realize that today it wouldn't make sense.

What I am wondering is if Embraer ever did study a 30 seat variant in the history of the 13X/14X program. Not if they are.


User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4489 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2089 times:

Didn't they study something like a CBA-123, or was that a turboprop?

I seem to remember that that was a pusher t-prop....



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User currently offlineKempa From Brazil, joined Aug 2003, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2056 times:

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User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1990 times:

I seem to recall that some of the very early design proposals were for something that essentially looked just like a 120, with the jet engines mounted forward and above the wings (basically in the same place the 120's engines are now). But I don't think anyone expressed interest in it.

Steve


User currently offlineBoingGoingGone From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1857 times:

They do make a 30 seater. The ERJ-135. The best part, it's easy to replace on EMB-120 routes. The 135 allows incremental route growth while providing essentially the same cabin. A 30 seat aircraft which made sense 10 years ago, now would typically demand a 37 seater. Just like the transition from 19 seaters to 30 seaters.

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