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AA DFW-EZE To Daily  
User currently offlineLatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1279 posts, RR: 14
Posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3466 times:

Due to the unexpectedly high demand for AA's DFW-EZE non-stop service, American will upgrade the service from thrice-weekly non-stop to:

  • Five weekly flights effective 4/14;

  • Daily service effective 6/10


  • Flights are operated with a dual-class 767-300ER. Due to AA's contract restriction with the APFA, these flights are staffed by DFW-based flight attendants and not AA's EZE-based flight attendants.

    This also marks continued growth for AA from DFW to South America, serving Caracas, Lima, Santiago, Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires.

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    User currently offlineBartond From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 791 posts, RR: 3
    Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3410 times:

    This is good news for DFW. I wonder if it's the demand for the cargo on this route that is causing them to go daily or if it's passenger demand. Maybe it's cuz ATL is starting back up service from ATL-EZE. Probably cargo but who cares, I'm just glad we'll see more 76's around for a while.

    User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3376 times:

    I wonder if this is in response to UA's ORD-EZE service...

    User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33194 posts, RR: 71
    Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3291 times:

    It is not in response to either DL nor UA. American applied with DOT to increase DFW-EZE service about 2-3 months ago. The route has done very well. Not only does it fill up, but it has helped out yields on the already high-yielding MIA/JFK-EZE flights, as AA now routes lower-yielding connecting EZE passengers through DFW.


    a.
    User currently offlineAA787 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 611 posts, RR: 12
    Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3193 times:

    The increase in demand is probably due to a decrease in the Argentina economy.


    ET In NYC
    User currently offlineGte439u From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 361 posts, RR: 1
    Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3155 times:

    The increase in demand is probably due to a decrease in the Argentina economy.

    I would think that the improving economy in Argentina is the cause of the increased demand as well as the growth in US tourism to Argentina.


    User currently offlineARGinMIA From Argentina, joined Nov 2001, 487 posts, RR: 5
    Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3143 times:

    AA787 decrease in the economy? The Argentinian Economy grew 7% on 2003.. and its expected to grow arround the same for 2004.. things are getting better very fast..


    Alto.. Mucho mas alto.. hasta la cumbre
    User currently offlineWiLdmanVzla From Mexico, joined Sep 2000, 616 posts, RR: 1
    Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3136 times:

    I watched a TV show yesterday about tourism around the world... they said Argentina is the biggest growing market in tourism worldwide & Buenos Aires is the 5th least expensive capital city... so, let's visit Argentina!!!!!, a beautiful country to go.

    *******


    User currently offlineARGinMIA From Argentina, joined Nov 2001, 487 posts, RR: 5
    Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3124 times:

    Back in 2001 Buenos Aires was if not the first one.. maybe the second most expensive city in America.. (yes.. even more expensive than new york) and certainly on the top 10 worldwide) what a change !!


    Alto.. Mucho mas alto.. hasta la cumbre
    User currently offlineTBCITDG From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 921 posts, RR: 3
    Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3089 times:

    This sure looks like a great time to visit Buenos Aires.It's also true what ARGinMIA says about the Argentine economy growing at an unbelieveable rate! Even the IMF is asstounded at th rate that a country that not too long ago was in the middle of economic turmoil could lift it's game so quickly.

    AA787 Why would they increase service if the economy is on the rebound not "on the decrease" as you stated?!?!?


    User currently offlineORDnDFW777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
    Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3048 times:

    Had no problem non-reving from IAD to EZE in Sep 03, but getting back was a pain! UA flights to MIA and IAD were over booked or had weight restrictions. I had to use AA buddy passes to get on the 2nd MIA flight or I might still be in EZE.

    Talking to friends at other airlines (AA), it appears that flights out of EZE are packed and flights into EZE have room. Looks like AA will do well on daily DFW flights. UA should do well on ORD and IAD as well. Sure MIA isn't a hub for UA, but the EZE - MIA flights were packed.

    Great city and extreamly affordable!


    User currently offlineUsatoeze From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 358 posts, RR: 3
    Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2999 times:

    Great!


    Demand for flights to EZE is very high now for all airlines. Pricing for the off-peak month of May is running 25% higher than last year, and even with more routes to EZE...the undervalued Peso is causing tourism to thrive. None of the flights I have been on to EZE since October have been any less than 90% full(AA), and although it is true that some of that 10% wasn't in coach, the loads seemed to be high elsewhere too.

    Now all we need on the AA 763 is some decent IFE.



    War is a very poor political tool
    User currently offlineARGinMIA From Argentina, joined Nov 2001, 487 posts, RR: 5
    Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2968 times:

    Usatoeze are you crew for AA? your username certainly cought my eye


    Alto.. Mucho mas alto.. hasta la cumbre
    User currently offlineLima From Argentina, joined May 1999, 1122 posts, RR: 14
    Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2952 times:

    There are a lot of tourist in Buenos Aires like I never seen before. A dutch newspaper (Algemeen Dagblad) stated that during the first nive months of 2003, more than five million tourist visited the city, a total record. The same trend also goes to other cities and regions like Patagonia, Iguazu, Salta.

    This is a great time so come to visit us  Smile


    User currently offlineLatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1279 posts, RR: 14
    Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2915 times:

    I just returned on Sunday morning from a week of holiday in Buenos Aires and I can honestly say it was fantastic. Not only does our US Dollar go farther, but the people are so nice and the food (and wine) is second-to-none. In our winter, you get the benefits of their summer, plus a city steeped in history and culture. My fiancee likes to call it the "Paris of Latin America."

    We flew AA JFK-EZE-JFK, I will write a trip report later, and pulled in next to two UA 767-300ERs and a Swiss MD-11, both of which appeared to be full because, coming in behind these three flights, we waited quite some time to clear customs.

    A good source of English-language news from Buenos Aires is the Buenos Aires Herald, in case you're interested.


    User currently offlinePlaaneboy From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 50 posts, RR: 0
    Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2869 times:

    Before the financial crisis in Argentina, AA had wanted to do DFWEZE. Now that the Argentine economy is recovering, it should come as no surprise that DFWEZE is doing well.

    Keep in mind that the flight currently operates on peak days for business travel, so the new flights may not have as high of a load factor at first, but should do better as the economy recovers.

    The yields on the flight are strong and business passengers are still discovering that it's a very convenient way to fly between the West Coast and EZE.

    I don't think UA will be very successful with ORDEZE as the local market isn't very large and AA and DL have better connections to the rest of the US. Also, UA has lost a number of corporate accounts to AA as a result of their suspension of service to MIA.


    [Edited 2004-02-12 17:31:54]

    User currently offlinePBIflyguy From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 248 posts, RR: 1
    Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2860 times:

    AA has cabin crews based in EZE??



    User currently offlineLatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1279 posts, RR: 14
    Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2846 times:

    AA has cabin crews based in EZE??

    Yes, AA has foreign-national flight attendants based in EZE, SCL, LIM and BOG. This component was part of the Eastern Airlines acquisition, some have seniority dating back to Braniff's early days within the region. They have limited scope in terms of where they can fly. For example, they only fly international routes to/from Miami, have their own unions and work rules based on country, and cannot fly either domestic routes or flights staffed with APFA crews.


    User currently offlineAeroArgentina From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 192 posts, RR: 2
    Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2749 times:

    They need to allow AR to increase their frequencies. Right now the US Argentina market is almost monopolized by AA and they can charge very high fares (I paid 1200 to go to EZE from DFW in December and am only paying 400 to go from IAH to BCN). AR doesn't even have daily flights whereas AA has 2 dailies just from Miami plus they are allowing them to have even more. I don't know how the DOT works but I think Argentina's govt should be pushing for more equality (ie AA or UA gets flights and so does AR). More competition is needed. Just my 2 cents.

    User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
    Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2738 times:

    I was in Argentina for the entire month of January and I loved it. I took AA from MIA in J. 777 there and a 763 back, It was packed both ways.

    User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1488 posts, RR: 0
    Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2727 times:

    I thought AR had daily flights to both JFK and MIA. Regardless, I am sure the case is that AR is not using all of its available frequencies. By the way, another Argentine carrier, Southern Winds, flies from MIA to EZE as well.

    User currently offlineLatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1279 posts, RR: 14
    Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2705 times:

    By the way, another Argentine carrier, Southern Winds, flies from MIA to EZE as well.

    I just looked at their schedule, and it shows them with only one weekly flight MIA-EZE. Does anyone know what happened? I didn't realize they were doing that poor on the route to warrant only a weekly flight. They also have four weekly flights from Buenos Aires to Madrid, Spain.

    I thought AR had daily flights to both JFK and MIA.

    They fly four weekly flights to Miami and three weekly flights to JFK, both with A-340s. I wish we saw more of AR at JFK.


    User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33194 posts, RR: 71
    Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2674 times:

    I just looked at their schedule, and it shows them with only one weekly flight MIA-EZE. Does anyone know what happened? I didn't realize they were doing that poor on the route to warrant only a weekly flight. They also have four weekly flights from Buenos Aires to Madrid, Spain.

    The Miami flight does well. They are short on aircraft right now. I believe they currently only have one 767-300ER, with the other in maintence. Until it is back, Miami is at one weekly. It will return to 3 weekly soon.



    a.
    User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2690 posts, RR: 10
    Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2651 times:

    AA is certainly expanding internationally lately. Not only in South America. AA will be as big as United in Asia within 3 years!


    Fly one thing; Fly it well
    User currently offlineARGinMIA From Argentina, joined Nov 2001, 487 posts, RR: 5
    Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2630 times:

    Argentina is still in CAT II thats why Aerolineas cannot add more flights.. Southern Winds is (or Was) using a foreighn wet leased aircraft.. thats why they where able to fly that route.. i really dont know why Argentina is in CAT II.. im shure is political


    Alto.. Mucho mas alto.. hasta la cumbre
    25 AeroArgentina : The whole CAT II thing is pretty ridiculous. I'm suprised I don't see the Arg govt trying to talk to the US govt to sort this out. IMO it's really cur
    26 TBCITDG : I totally agree with you guys! AR should benefit from the same conditions that Us carriers have in the US-ARGENTINA routes. I personally do not unders
    27 AeroArgentina : AR stopped the EZE-LAX route in 2001 when they almost went bankrupt. If they were not CAT II right now I can assure you they would be flying it. They
    28 Usatoeze : Usatoeze are you crew for AA? No I just happen to fly back and forth between Argentina and the US constantly. I've been in a relationship with a girl
    29 Lima : The Cat issue is more about political and economic interest backed. A US company (Thompson) was eager to win the contract to renew the whole radar sys
    30 LatinAviation : They are short on aircraft right now. I believe they currently only have one 767-300ER, with the other in maintence. Until it is back, Miami is at one
    31 ARGinMIA : The funny thing is that the all white 767 is registered as LV- so i have no clue how they will be able to land in MIA with it...
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