Rick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 52 Reply 1, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2613 times:
What, just like a lot of the Airbus family of aircraft is made by the Americans and just like a lot of the Boeing family is made by us Europeans?
Aircraft manufacturing is a truly global industry, just because the 7E7 will be assembled in the USA, the majority of it's components will be made abroad.
Just like a great proportion of the Airbus is made in the states...
I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
MITaero From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 497 posts, RR: 9 Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2523 times:
Someone just posted this yesterday.
a) We already used Dassault software.
b) Who gives a sh*t whether they're French or not. I didn't even think about it until people started pointing it out.
JETSTAR From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1523 posts, RR: 10 Reply 4, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2505 times:
Dassault Aviation in France, a privately owned company which makes the Falcon line of business jets was the first aircraft manufacturer to design and build an airplane strictly by computer. This eliminated all paper blueprints and documents and allowed all the different engineers to fully integrate their work without conflicts. Dassault designed their own software, called CITIA for this and have been marketing it under license to other manufactures.
Boeing designed the 777 using a highly modified version of this software and the results were fantastic. This software also allows engineers to design maintenance friendly systems so the mechanics can reach the components for removal or service with as little effort as possible.
JETSTAR From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1523 posts, RR: 10 Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2423 times:
What proportion of an Airbus is made in the US?
If the engines are P & W or GE, it could be a large precentage of an Airbus is US made, depending on the model.
While the aircraft structure is made in Europe, the engines, avionics, APU, electrical systems, hydraulics and wheels and brakes can be from the US.
The Airbus A-380 has a sizable amount of US made components.
JBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4459 posts, RR: 22 Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2414 times:
Dassault designed their own software, called CITIA for this and have been marketing it under license to other manufactures.
It's actually CATIA and I think IBM had a hand in it as well as Dassault(?)
Rick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 52 Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2378 times:
"What proportion of an Airbus is made in the US?"
Airbus spends some 40 percent of its procurement budget with American suppliers. Hundreds of companies in more than 40 U.S. states produce hardware for Airbus, ranging from engines to window glass.
I used to love the smell of Jet-A in the morning...
Col From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2040 posts, RR: 22 Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2295 times:
Airbus should try to make more in US, rather than trying to push Japan to buy their aircraft with manufacture agreements. The USA want and buy the product the Japanese are happy to buy older Boeings, send it this way!!
MD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8418 posts, RR: 13 Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2264 times:
Boeing's using CATIA right now, and McDonnell Douglas used Unigraphics (which I've learned some of the basics of). No clue what Airbus uses.
AApilot2b From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 567 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2188 times:
This is actually old news. N'or is it odd. There are many alliances between American and French companies and Boeing has been doing this for years.
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2018 times:
Airbus uses something very similar to CATIA, but for the Sun Solaris platform.
RIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1785 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1918 times:
"7E7 will be assembled in the USA" - not only assembled. Boeing aircraft are designed/developed in the US. Same as Airbus in Europe. But even this stage may use something (software, ...) "from the other side". So, absolutely, "aircraft manufacturing is a truly global industry". Which is great.
Phxinterrupted From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 474 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1659 times:
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7694 posts, RR: 5 Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1419 times:
What's interesting is that AF buying the medium-range standard-fuselage version of the 7E7 isn't such a far-fetched idea.
The reason is simple: AF needs a new widebody airliner smaller than the A330-300 for intra-European routes, and given that Airbus won't produce a true A310/A300B4 replacement for quite some time, the airline will turn to Boeing for the 7E7 just like AF bought 24 777-200ER's for CDG to South America flights.