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LH Or SK 'C' Class Longhaul?  
User currently offlineBa319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8539 posts, RR: 54
Posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2595 times:
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Need a little help gang.

I'm planning a trip to PEK in march,normally i'd choose BA or VS,however BA's schedule is no good for me and VS don't fly to PEK.That leaves me to choose between LH and SK.

From experience,which is the better of the 2?

Thanks for any advise.

Mark

[Edited 2004-02-13 18:31:45]


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User currently offlineLHSebi From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 1049 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2566 times:

I personally have not flown SK at all, but I know that business in LH is great! Amazing service, and wonderful food. Seat pitch is good, and so is IFE. From what I have heard, SK is very nice too, but I am not sure...sorry, and happy flying!

Sebastian



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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9634 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2499 times:

The current seat pitch is 48' on LH and 50' on SK in business. I find that SK's seats are rather comfortable. I have never traveled LH business, only first, and their service was impeccable, and I would expect the same in business as well, however FRA is delay prone which can be a hassle. Overall the two products very similar.


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User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 2437 times:

Hi Marc,

I haven't flown both LH and SK yet, but I would choose the option to fly via FRA! Why? For variation in the logbook.

LH is codesharing the FRA-PEK flight with CA (both operate one daily flight).

I would go up on the B744 of LH (17h25-8h30) and come back with the CA B744 (14h15-18h20). No chance to be 2 times on the same LH B744 also! Big grin

Enjoy your flights! Big grin And let us know what you have chosen...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Cheers
Frederic


User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3509 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 2420 times:

Definitely SK. One of the best airline to fly long-haul.
Plus - they always loose my luggage at FRA  Big grin


User currently offlineJaws707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 708 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2367 times:

SAS has PTV's in every seat of the A340 you would be flying, while Lufthansa does not have PTV's. I am referring to the seats in coach which I assume "C" class stands for? I once flew SAS longhaul from ORD-WAW with a stop in ARN, and the serivce was wonderfull. The food was good, plenty of snacks and drinks, and the flight attendents were very friendly.

User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1488 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2342 times:

C Class is one of the most common fare classes for Business Class. SAS is well known for having one of the best business classes in the world for long-haul - plus they are only a two-class airline - so you are getting their best product! I believe, they do however have an Economy Plus type section on some long-haul services.

User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2324 times:

I looked at Expedia, and I found an unlikely option: Turkish Airlines.

They leave from LHR. The plane will be an Airbus A310. Its not a long flight to BA), Turkey">IST. Then you get on an A340 to PEK. Thats a nine hour flight.

Trip total for the dates I selected: $3531.57. (C-Class)
Trip total on AF: $4656.00. (C-Class)
Trip total on BA: $5164.00. (C-Class)

ABOUT TURKISH AIRLINES
http://www.airlinequality.com/Forum/turkish.htm

Here's one about C-Class.

My family and I had the pleasure of flying Turkish Airlines business class from Singapore to Instanbul and then through to Sarajevo last week. We flew on a new Airbus 340 from Singapore and then were put up by the airline in Instanbul in a 5 star hotel overnight to connect with our flight to Sarajevo the next day. The service was very good both on board and at check in. Our luggage arrived safely at all our destinations and staff were friendly and efficient. Catering from Singapore was a bit disappointing, but for the remainder of the trip and sectors the food and wine was excellent. Staff on the Istanbul-Sarajevo sector were very friendly and helpful. Check in at Istanbul was a breeze allowing for advanced check-in. The Singapore staff of Turkish Airlines were outstanding in their product knowledge and service and genuinely helpful. There was an excellent personal touch to the service. Their upgrade offer was excellent value and my family will now change our preferences to Turkish Airlines for future travel. THY comes highly recommended as it is truly a world class airline in the same league as SQ or LH.




AAndrew


User currently offlineCarfield From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1920 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2304 times:

Unless you are going to get the new sleeper seats in LH J, I will go with SK. SAS J seems to be a better product with better food... LH old J seems a bit tight and the service is not as good as SK. SK's buffet station looks really nice and CPH is a really convenient airport for transfer.

About TK, I read about it on the Japanese airline magazine. The A340s look okay in J... The seats are sleeper style with 54" of legroom, a width of 21", and a recline of 140 Degrees; compared to SAS's 50" of legroom, a width of 20.4", and a recline of 110 degrees, and LH's 48 inches of legroom, a width of 20" and a recline of 90 Degrees.

The food seems to serve in varied courses and there is a salad bowl service (salad tossed on the side); however, economy looks rather plain.

Anyway, I hope this information will help...

Carfield


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4784 posts, RR: 43
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2297 times:

If LH is flying their new A 340-600s on the PEK route then its worth it in J class BUT if not then choose SAS-SK A 343s that fly the route as their J class product is way better than LHs on all of its long haul aircraft with exception to their new A 346s!!!

User currently offline9V-SPF From Germany, joined Sep 2001, 1375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2256 times:

I agree, since you´ll be flying in March the chances of getting the new LH C-Class product on a B744 are still VERY low so SK might be the better choice.

Daniel


User currently offlineMikkel777 From Norway, joined Oct 2002, 370 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2237 times:

I've not tried LH C-class, only LH Y, SK C, Y+ and Y. The service is good in all three classes in SK longhaul, SK Y is far better than LH Y, even if I've had the exact same seat on the same type of aircraft. Service with LH was almost nonexistent.
SAS C-class is very good, although the seatpich could be better. Good service, good food and wine, and the little self-service bar for drinks and snacks is nice.


User currently offlineBa319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8539 posts, RR: 54
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2182 times:
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Thanks for the input guys.

Well if the trip comes off,looks like it will be SAS.

There is an additional bonus for flying SAS,the trip will add 2 new aircraft types to my log,MD-90 and 343(ive flown the 346 but managed to miss the 343!)

I'll post a trip report if the trip comes off.

Thanks again

Mark



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User currently offlineMikkel777 From Norway, joined Oct 2002, 370 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2171 times:

Look forward to the MD90. Nicest aircraft built! I've never been in the pax-cabin, only in the jumpseat in the cockpit, but the cabin sure will give you a quiet and pleasant ride. Try to get a seat in the forward part of the cabin, but that shouldn't be a problem if you are flying C.
The 343 is, as stated zillions of times before, a slow climber, but it is quieter than most 2 engine aircrafts. Enjoy your flight!


User currently offlineScandinavian From Sweden, joined Sep 2000, 267 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

Last summer I flow with Lufthansa I C class from Seoul to Frankfurt. A couple a weeks ago I was in Beijing. That time I went with SAS in C class.

I think that both airlines are good, with nice and clean cabins. I think that the food is better on Lufthansa than on SAS. The IFE are better on SAS and the self-service station on SAS longhaul in business is a nice touch. One boring thing with SAS are the old grandma's in the crew.

So, it´s not easy to choose from two nice airlines. But try SAS this time and take the chance to fly two new aircraft types as you mentioned above.

Markus



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User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2040 times:

I would agree with you choosing SK over LH.

Seat pitch recline is limited innboth SK and LH compared to e.g KLM and BA, but catering on SK is very good. I was impressed by disiplined staff (real sinchronized timing entering the cabin etc ..), wearing special uniform/hats when serving foot. Lots of silver cutlery and nice glass / dishes etc.

Another advantage of Sk A343 is the bar behind the business class zone. Serious bar with lots of choice & friendly & helpfull crew.

You can also look at of the window when on the lavatory, it is turned 45 degrees and has a window  Smile/happy/getting dizzy. Also some kind of stretch bar fixed to a wall behind the c zone enabling an inflight work-out.

However space / big seats & sleeping comfort/IFE are also very important on very long flights .. therefor I personally would prefer KLM



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